BigBlue Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Blow outs are what get coaches (and GM's) fired If MOS wants to save his job for next year he must appear to do something, attempt to resucitate the patient which is in this case is the BB Offence. Making Buck Pierce OC might do it. The elephant in the parlor is of course MB's predictability, timidity and whatever else adds up to this tepid incompetence. Buck at least has fire in his belly and the courage to try. The other appearance needed is to cut Brohm; If you won't cut incompetence you appear indifferent. Bringing back Yantz might appease some of us. Saying he was too green to play was just MB's cowardice. He could find a receiver downfield and rifle it in to him. No skipped balls with Canadian star. And he brings a history of success and confidence, If that is too big a move, then go find Portris although that feels like defeatism. The brass have to make a move or two immediately .... none of this rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I suspect O'Shea wants to stay the course the rest of this season, but knowing Wade Miller, it wouldn't surprise me to see Bellefeuille fired soon. What's adds to the dynamic is that Wade brought Bellefeuille in a couple years ago as the consultant who eventually replaced Crowton. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Let us bring in a "consultant" then..... Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Let us bring in a "consultant" then.....What I'm suggesting is that Wade is partially to blame for the Bellefeuille disaster. Goalie and DR. CFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Exactly......it's time for people for accountability all thru this organization. No one should be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Let us bring in a "consultant" then.....What I'm suggesting is that Wade is partially to blame for the Bellefeuille disaster. Wade is to blame for the entire mess. He hired Walters. Walters hired our useless scouts & Mike O'Shea. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Bringing back Yantz might appease some of us. Saying he was too green to play was just MB's cowardice. He could find a receiver downfield and rifle it in to him. No skipped balls with Canadian star. And he brings a history of success and confidence, If that is too big a move, then go find Portris although that feels like defeatism. You must be the only person on earth that's seen Yantz play against CFL players. You're making some massive assumptions. Westy Sucks, blitzmore and SPuDS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Blow outs are what get coaches (and GM's) fired If MOS wants to save his job for next year he must appear to do something, attempt to resucitate the patient which is in this case is the BB Offence. Making Buck Pierce OC might do it. The elephant in the parlor is of course MB's predictability, timidity and whatever else adds up to this tepid incompetence. Buck at least has fire in his belly and the courage to try. The other appearance needed is to cut Brohm; If you won't cut incompetence you appear indifferent. Bringing back Yantz might appease some of us. Saying he was too green to play was just MB's cowardice. He could find a receiver downfield and rifle it in to him. No skipped balls with Canadian star. And he brings a history of success and confidence, If that is too big a move, then go find Portris although that feels like defeatism. The brass have to make a move or two immediately .... none of this rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but bringing in even worse QBs than we already have would not appease me in any way. Westy Sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bringing back Yantz might appease some of us. Saying he was too green to play was just MB's cowardice. He could find a receiver downfield and rifle it in to him. No skipped balls with Canadian star. And he brings a history of success and confidence, If that is too big a move, then go find Portris although that feels like defeatism. You must be the only person on earth that's seen Yantz play against CFL players. You're making some massive assumptions. Yea trying to suggest yantz could be some form of savior is ludicrous.. If a guy like air canada cant get any traction after playing in a legit program... How is yantz gonna step in and be the man..Smh. SPuDS, Logan007 and Westy Sucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bringing back Yantz might appease some of us. Saying he was too green to play was just MB's cowardice. He could find a receiver downfield and rifle it in to him. No skipped balls with Canadian star. And he brings a history of success and confidence, If that is too big a move, then go find Portris although that feels like defeatism. You must be the only person on earth that's seen Yantz play against CFL players. You're making some massive assumptions. completely agree... you know who else can whip the ball around in practice... Brian Brohm... game situations are a completely different animal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Let us bring in a "consultant" then.....What I'm suggesting is that Wade is partially to blame for the Bellefeuille disaster. Wade is to blame for the entire mess. He hired Walters. Walters hired our useless scouts & Mike O'Shea. Iso...you starting to sound more and more like Nasty Nate. All you have to do is start using those crazy nicknames and you're there. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Let us bring in a "consultant" then.....What I'm suggesting is that Wade is partially to blame for the Bellefeuille disaster. Wade is to blame for the entire mess. He hired Walters. Walters hired our useless scouts & Mike O'Shea. Iso...you starting to sound more and more like Nasty Nate. All you have to do is start using those crazy nicknames and you're there. Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Last week O'Shea was involved directly in the ST practices and it seemed to reap rewards. This week I hope he sticks his nose deep into the O practices if for no other reason to send a message that he's paying close attention to their preparation and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. Okay, point taken. Although, I still don't think he's a great coach. O'Shea handles the media differently than Burke did. Burke was totally pathetic trying to look like this tragic figure. O'Shea at least has his pride. As far as Nate goes, how would anyone feel here being compared to him? Man, I'm going to have to spend about an hour in the shower scrubbing as now I feel so dirty. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Sucks Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. Record wise and lame BS excuses wise, he's right there with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Sucks Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. 4 blow outs says otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 The offense was done in the first quarter last Saturday. I'd say they quit as a unit. Maybe not on O'Shea but certainly the offense quit on Bellefeuille & Marve as he was totally unable to do anything at qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillerywg Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. I agree the players haven't given up on O'Shea yet, he is much more of a leader than Tim B. however I do have many issues with O'Shea's style I think he is too easy on the players in practice and he gives then too much "rest" IMO , Cal Murphy wasn't too working about keeping his players fresh he wanted them to work in practice and lots of them... I think for a team that has gone 4-14 over its past 18 games ( and only 3 without Willy ) we are not a very good team and its not from a lack of talent IMO its poor coaching especially our OC , ST and OL Coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. I agree the players haven't given up on O'Shea yet, he is much more of a leader than Tim B. however I do have many issues with O'Shea's style I think he is too easy on the players in practice and he gives then too much "rest" IMO , Cal Murphy wasn't too working about keeping his players fresh he wanted them to work in practice and lots of them... I think for a team that has gone 4-14 over its past 18 games ( and only 3 without Willy ) we are not a very good team and its not from a lack of talent IMO its poor coaching especially our OC , ST and OL Coaches... Coaching has changed and evolved since Cal Murphy was coaching. The task master doesn't work anymore. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 The offense was done in the first quarter last Saturday. I'd say they quit as a unit. Maybe not on O'Shea but certainly the offense quit on Bellefeuille & Marve as he was totally unable to do anything at qb. I don't think they quit, I think they were just in over their heads. Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. 4 blow outs says otherwise Blow outs aren't the only story. Sometimes a blow out just happens because you're over matched. With Burke the team quit on him and as I said, I don't see the team quitting on O'Shea. I see them getting overwhelmed by negative plays and it takes them a while to recover, at which point the other team has generally opened up an insurmountable lead. This teams problem is it can't shake off poor plays quick enough and can't capitalize well enough on the big plays they do get. Let's look at this past game as an example. Calgary turns the ball over in the endzone, what do the Bombers do? They turn it right back over and Calgary immediately puts it in the endzone. Bombers block a punt and come away with only a field goal. Calgary gets an INT to start the 2nd half and it's in the endzone. See what I mean? Gotta be able to capitalize on the big plays and recover quickly when you make a bad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. I agree the players haven't given up on O'Shea yet, he is much more of a leader than Tim B. however I do have many issues with O'Shea's style I think he is too easy on the players in practice and he gives then too much "rest" IMO , Cal Murphy wasn't too working about keeping his players fresh he wanted them to work in practice and lots of them... I think for a team that has gone 4-14 over its past 18 games ( and only 3 without Willy ) we are not a very good team and its not from a lack of talent IMO its poor coaching especially our OC , ST and OL Coaches... Coaching has changed and evolved since Cal Murphy was coaching. The task master doesn't work anymore. Kent Austin and Hufnagel would disagree with you. Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 The offense was done in the first quarter last Saturday. I'd say they quit as a unit. Maybe not on O'Shea but certainly the offense quit on Bellefeuille & Marve as he was totally unable to do anything at qb. I don't think they quit, I think they were just in over their heads. Please don't get insulting by comparing me to that douchebag. I want this team to win. Nate doesn't because he's a moron. I admit I'm becoming very dissatisfied with this entire regime. I don't think we're much better or further ahead than we were in 2013 & I'm not happy about it as you can probably tell. O'Shea seems as lost as Burke was trying to find the answers but he just handles the situation talking to the media differently. Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. 4 blow outs says otherwise Blow outs aren't the only story. Sometimes a blow out just happens because you're over matched. With Burke the team quit on him and as I said, I don't see the team quitting on O'Shea. I see them getting overwhelmed by negative plays and it takes them a while to recover, at which point the other team has generally opened up an insurmountable lead. This teams problem is it can't shake off poor plays quick enough and can't capitalize well enough on the big plays they do get. Let's look at this past game as an example. Calgary turns the ball over in the endzone, what do the Bombers do? They turn it right back over and Calgary immediately puts it in the endzone. Bombers block a punt and come away with only a field goal. Calgary gets an INT to start the 2nd half and it's in the endzone. See what I mean? Gotta be able to capitalize on the big plays and recover quickly when you make a bad play. Blowouts do tell you a lot about the team, and almost half the games this year have been blowout losses. Either the talent just isn't there, or the coaching is lacking. O'Shea may or may not have lost the locker room but the team is spiralling downward once more and the win/loss numbers do not lie. Don Matthews,Scotty Bowman, and many other coaches were not on their players' christmas card lists, but the teams won anyways. The same applies in the business world- it all comes down to results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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