Brandon Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Can they please allow him to spend money for some free agents!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I wonder if there will be heat on Walters for telling people. I suppose it's part of the recruitment process to let prospective coaches know who's in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 The impression I got from reading the papers all week is that Miller has been talking to everyone and anyone during GC week in Regina. If he talked to a bunch of front-office types from other teams who said "We like Kyle, we respect Kyle, we'd have no problem working with Kyle as an equal in the league..." then, I've got no problem with them moving forward with him. If they get McManus or someone like that to work the connections south of the border while KW does the CIS stuff that he's clearly gifted at, then what the hell. Just because he's an "easy" hire, doesn't make him a bad one. Time will tell if this is the right move, but for the time being, I'm willing to give it a shot. Now, who the hell do we get as HC... blitzmore, Blue-urns and Mr Dee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Kind of reeks of that one Grey Cup week, when a certain bald a-hole named Mike Kelly was walking around with Lyle Bauer basically introducing himself as the next GM and HC. Not saying that Walters or Khari are anything like Reinbald, just the schoozy friends helping friends stink never seems to leave this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Let's not forget that Walters was chosen by Joe Mack to be assistant GM. If anything, Miller should be commended for not bringing in one of "his guys" here. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Pretty sure there was the same reaction when Mack was hired by some. Not worried. Imwt and all that. Walters seems like a good football man to have in the organization, but i fail to see how he is any bit qualified to handle such an enormous task as transforming a horrible team that has been mostly crap since 2008 into a highly competitive team that push for division champions each year. Cis coach to shitty st coach to assistant GM to intermin GM, Not seeing the cfl experience in building a great team from the dog pile we currently are. Sure he has CIs experience but how does that translate into the cfl? I rather someone like Higgins or someone with similar amounts of experience helping manage teams that have turned from crap into top 4 teams in the league. Settling with Walters May turn out to be great, but i don't understand our perpetual gravitation to rookie management hires.. Logan007, blueandgoldguy and NotoriousBIG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Pretty sure there was the same reaction when Mack was hired by some. Not worried. Imwt and all that. Walters seems like a good football man to have in the organization, but i fail to see how he is any bit qualified to handle such an enormous task as transforming a horrible team that has been mostly crap since 2008 into a highly competitive team that push for division champions each year. Cis coach to shitty st coach to assistant GM to intermin GM, Not seeing the cfl experience in building a great team from the dog pile we currently are. Sure he has CIs experience but how does that translate into the cfl? I rather someone like Higgins or someone with similar amounts of experience helping manage teams that have turned from crap into top 4 teams in the league. Settling with Walters May turn out to be great, but i don't understand our perpetual gravitation to rookie management hires.. The problem is that, other than Higgins (whose qualifications are questionable), the person you are looking for doesn't exist. If they really did their research and determined that Walters is the best guy out there, then I have no problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Pretty sure there was the same reaction when Mack was hired by some. Not worried. Imwt and all that. Walters seems like a good football man to have in the organization, but i fail to see how he is any bit qualified to handle such an enormous task as transforming a horrible team that has been mostly crap since 2008 into a highly competitive team that push for division champions each year. Cis coach to shitty st coach to assistant GM to intermin GM, Not seeing the cfl experience in building a great team from the dog pile we currently are. Sure he has CIs experience but how does that translate into the cfl? I rather someone like Higgins or someone with similar amounts of experience helping manage teams that have turned from crap into top 4 teams in the league. Settling with Walters May turn out to be great, but i don't understand our perpetual gravitation to rookie management hires.. The problem is that, other than Higgins (whose qualifications are questionable), the person you are looking for doesn't exist. If they really did their research and determined that Walters is the best guy out there, then I have no problems with it. So there are no other coaches or operational guys on any other team or in short hiatus with more experience then Walters and or less then Higgins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 So there are no other coaches or operational guys on any other team or in short hiatus with more experience then Walters and or less then Higgins? What you're saying is true…more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Yes, there are more experienced player personnel guys around than Walters. The guy in BC who has been there forever as well as John Murphy in Calgary. And like has been pointed out a couple of hundred times, there's Tom Higgins available who has rebuilt teams as a GM & Head Coach in the past. So, yes there are people out there who can do the job. The thing is, Wade Miller is calling the shots. I don't think too many CFL execs like Murphy want anything to do with him so we get Walters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The thing is, Wade Miller is calling the shots. I don't think too many CFL execs like Murphy want anything to do with him so we get Walters. Unsubstantiated and completely unfair to the young wizard, Mr. Walters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 "I've got a bad feeling about this." Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Can anyone name an available GM candidate who has experience successfully rebuilding a team. There are potential GM candidates with more management experience than Walters but of the names bandied about none have rebuilt a team as GM. Both times when Higgins was GM in Edmonton he inherited good teams. Murphy, McEvoy and O'Day have never been GMs so they haven't been in charge of a rebuild either. Blue-urns and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 …What Kyle may be saying in Regina all week. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 He doesn't have experience as a GM so we can't make him GM? Knowledge and leadership are important. The fact he was a special teams coach means nothing. I think he's going to do very well. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBall Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 If Walters is the best guy for the job then great. Problem is, he's not. Penton said it in his column the other day and everyone already knows this. Miller knows this. So why is he giving the job to Walters? Because apparently an "exhaustive search" in Bomber Land means leaving your office, walking down the hallway, running into anybody you recognize and asking "Oh hey, you know there's a GM job available, wanna do it? But if anyone asks, say you interviewed for it." This is the impression I get every time the Bombers need to make a new hire and claim they will be scouring the league looking for the best possible candidate for the job. Like they did for a head coach after canning LaPo right? They found the best possible candidate. In the ENTIRE LEAGUE. That's what we got. He was right under our nose the whole time. The problem is the attitude this organization seems to have every time we go through this. As long as a person is "adequate" or "good enough", they fit the bill. Forget RENEWED RIVALRIES, 2014's slogan should just be those two terms beneath our logo. pigseye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I guess anyone with the same experience can do well if the Bombers go out and spend a pile of cash on NI's a Q.B. and an O-line along with the proper number of coaches. It is a wait and see game, if they sit on their wallets yet again I am sure the fans will as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Success or failure will all fall at Wades feet with these hires, maybe he will surprise us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 All of the bellyaching is based on unfounded information at this point. You may all turn out to be right, but it's too soon to tell. Let's wait and see what Kyle does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 All of the bellyaching is based on unfounded information at this point. You may all turn out to be right, but it's too soon to tell. Let's wait and see what Kyle does. I can't speak for any other poster, but my bellyaching has more to do with the process, then Walters being hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The thing is, Wade Miller is calling the shots. I don't think too many CFL execs like Murphy want anything to do with him so we get Walters. Unsubstantiated and completely unfair to the young wizard, Mr. Walters Maybe but optics are everything. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The thing is, Wade Miller is calling the shots. I don't think too many CFL execs like Murphy want anything to do with him so we get Walters. Maybe but image is everything. Unsubstantiated and completely unfair to the young wizard, Mr. Walters Maybe but optics are everything. Optics are everything? Not if they're an illusion. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 The thing is, Wade Miller is calling the shots. I don't think too many CFL execs like Murphy want anything to do with him so we get Walters. Maybe but image is everything. Unsubstantiated and completely unfair to the young wizard, Mr. Walters Maybe but optics are everything. results are everything not optics. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Optics can be an illusion. Illusions can be fantasy. Only reality is the permanence of our being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Optics can be an illusion. Illusions can be fantasy. Only reality is the permanence of our being. Heavy man... I see where you're coming from…in colours. But, to me, these are only token words, ( or is that spelt with an i ) iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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