With Rookie Camp getting underway Wednesday morning, it's officially time to talk about the 2026 Winnipeg Blue Bombers!

34 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

Has anyone actually said, stop watching film? .

No but some people live in a binary world apparently

24 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

No but some people live in a binary world apparently

Exactly.....For some taking the blinders off would be a travesty....Stick with the status quo and things will all work out would/should be their mantra...Change and going down a different road can actually bring success .....but you'll never know until you try something new ... A few players sitting on our pr and roster would whole heartedly agree with that

10 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Exactly.....For some taking the blinders off would be a travesty....Stick with the status quo and things will all work out would/should be their mantra...Change and going down a different road can actually bring success .....but you'll never know until you try something new ... A few players sitting on our pr and roster would whole heartedly agree with that

No one said don't try anything, apparently both sides of the debate live in a non binary world. You are just inventing narrative if if you think that anyone wants the status quo. What I am arguing against is change that doesn't improve things, which is at this point, with our roster certainly very possible. I get that you and others have your pitchforks out but that never solved anything.

There are a couple roster moves that may make sense to us, but for the most part our depth sucks. Deal with it, or at the very least point your pitch fork towards Kyle and demand that an airlift begin because that's the only way some of this **** is getting solved. We don't have enough talent. Until that is addressed we can play ring around the rosie with the roster all we want and results will remain roughly the same.

17 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Edited July 30Jul 30 by GCn20

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Film work will never solve a talent deficiency.

especially when reviewing film you either cant see the deficiency...wont admit it...or refuse to believe it....like us

And further to that...that maybe the way we prep guys...our scheme and how you deploy them....aka put them in right position to succeed really really sucks...and deficient players are actually victims of their coaching...or lack there of and maybe not that bad....there is that aspect too

I know you wanna lay most blame on Walters and the scouts and shield Osh and his deficiencies...but end of day he has the most control of the roster...game day and PR...decisions made in a game or leading up to it...Not Walters or the scouts, and he is control of how we prepare or at the least overseeing how his assistants are preparing and maybe act on something he see's isn't ideal...if he even has a clue..Thats a head coaches job and a key responibility. He is responsible for pretty much the end product...and well.....we've seen recent results....and the why's for it

1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

Identifying the problems with film work and fixing them are two different things.

and we do neither...or have a real hard time identifying...and we already know for most part Osh wont fix anything with a player...especially one he likes or is a longer tenured vet

Edited July 30Jul 30 by Booch

15 minutes ago, Booch said:

especially when reviewing film you either cant see the deficiency...wont admit it...or refuse to believe it....like us

And further to that...that maybe the way we prep guys...our scheme and how you deploy them....aka put them in right position to succeed really really sucks...and deficient players are actually victims of their coaching...or lack there of and maybe not that bad....there is that aspect too

I know you wanna lay most blame on Walters and the scouts and shield Osh and his deficiencies...but end of day he has the most control of the roster...game day and PR...decisions made in a game or leading up to it...Not Walters or the scouts, and he is control of how we prepare or at the least overseeing how his assistants are preparing and maybe act on something he see's isn't ideal...if he even has a clue..Thats a head coaches job and a key responibility. He is responsible for pretty much the end product...and well.....we've seen recent results....and the why's for it

and we do neither...or have a real hard time identifying...and we already know for most part Osh wont fix anything with a player...especially one he likes or is a longer tenured vet

Or it could just be we lack talent and it is on Walters and the scouts. We won't know until we try something, I can concede that point, but based on player replacements over the last 3 years if I was a betting man I would go talent deficient. That's not to say that coaching can't be improved, because Younger absolutely needs to go, just pointing out that it's a mix of both.

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Or it could just be we lack talent and it is on Walters and the scouts. We won't know until we try something, I can concede that point, but based on player replacements over the last 3 years if I was a betting man I would go talent deficient. That's not to say that coaching can't be improved, because Younger absolutely needs to go, just pointing out that it's a mix of both.

raw Talent it self is almost never the issue. Elsbury has no gap in talent behind any C in this league.

Vaval is one of the most talented guys in the league but doesnt have a fit on D or O.

With great coaching though, even adequate really, you make use of what you have. And bring out the best in your players. Almost no one is playing there best ball or even close to it. That isn’t a player issue, that’s coaching.

We cut guys who other teams use. And often use better then us, despite us having had them in the room for a lot longer time.

player quality is an issue at some spots, mainly because our roster is clogged with dead weight.

One of the realities of scouting is the miss rate is high, and un predictable. Because of this you have to flood positions with new guys in order to find the ones worth developing. who will grow with coaching and reps. I think reese is one of those guys, but look at the volume of talented pass rushers it took to find him.

The few guys with a real talent disparity are ones like korny who is at best a fringe player.

Another major factor in recruiting, is you have to know the fit for your need. like we don’t need a speedy catch and run 5’8 170 lbs wr right now, if that’s all bring in you see screwed. And as brady said, the players don’t even know what the Os concept is supposed to be. This late in the season to not know at that level, you can imagine the position the scouts were in during the months leading up to training camp.

Now, i’m not excusing walters or the scouts. I do agree we haven’t down a good job of bringing in guys who jump off the page. But when the systems on O and D are as flawed as they are, and you have log jams filling a good portion of the roster with old guys who can’t play but won’t lose spots, you also can’t fairly evaluate the job done by the front office.

I’ve said it before, bad teams cut good players for the wrong reasons. And they cling to bad players for bad reasons too. Good and great teams find value in those cuts. Until we fix our systems, we will continue to fail at identifying using and developing players.

We are a bad team, no matter the record or areas of success. We have no plan to create a win condition, and we have no tactics or execution to achieve those win conditions. On O or D. We are just fumbling through throwing random crap at the wall and hoping it will work. Our wins haven’t been created by us, they have happened to us. Same as unforced turn overs vs forced turn overs.

The good news is that most teams in the league right now, are also bad. And frankly, atleast 3 are much farther from being good than us.

Film study at this point is redundant. Both in the season and in the tenure of our systems/coaches. The fix, can be done with out film study. You could after today’s game, no matter it’s out come, begin installing changes that would drastically improve our team. We all know those changes, at this point. The mafia may not admit it, but they know it too.

I look at how people are viewing our pass pro around the league. Talking about not having the time needed, but no one says big stan’s name. No one wants to besmirch his legendary career. Be it cjob, pregame with walby, the freep, 3dn, cfl.ca or tsn, no one is willing to say what is clear to be seen by even the most casual fan. He is brutal now. Hes getting almost 2 penalties a game, and getting destroyed with giving up pressures. He’s beaten with speed, power, technique, motor, every thing.

Last year, you could beat him with speed, And some moves. But not with power, and not with motor. Not with any competent pass rush move. Now, he’s a free path to the back field. He’s not a turnstile, he’s a screen door from a trailer in a hurricane.

No one from out side the team wants to say it, so they watch in relative silence. Waiting for the team to do, what any other team would’ve done long ago.

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

I look at how people are viewing our pass pro around the league. Talking about not having the time needed, but no one says big stan’s name. No one wants to besmirch his legendary career. Be it cjob, pregame with walby, the freep, 3dn, cfl.ca or tsn, no one is willing to say what is clear to be seen by even the most casual fan. He is brutal now. Hes getting almost 2 penalties a game, and getting destroyed with giving up pressures. He’s beaten with speed, power, technique, motor, every thing.

Last year, you could beat him with speed, And some moves. But not with power, and not with motor. Not with any competent pass rush move. Now, he’s a free path to the back field. He’s not a turnstile, he’s a screen door from a trailer in a hurricane.

No one from out side the team wants to say it, so they watch in relative silence. Waiting for the team to do, what any other team would’ve done long ago.

I'll take the blame for Bryant. Without fail, anytime my wife buys a new jersey, that player is either traded, has a career ending injury or retires. She wanted to get a Bryant jersey 2 years ago and I told her not to because he still had gas in the tank. My bad - should have bought her one for Christmas and this whole mess could have avoided!

Matt Jaworski has been moved from the retired list back to the practice roster. Seems like good news.

50 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

Matt Jaworski has been moved from the retired list back to the practice roster. Seems like good news.

Interesting move.

Looked promising in limited time last year.

Now do a receiver!

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Interesting move.

Looked promising in limited time last year.

Wikipedia says he's 49 years old. Is he a MLB?

4 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

Matt Jaworski has been moved from the retired list back to the practice roster. Seems like good news.

Yeah that will stop the bleeding.

Don't bother acquiring better dbs, lbs, or ol. Or maybe they should all wear glasses. It worked for Castillo.

4 hours ago, Tracker said:

Wikipedia says he's 49 years old. Is he a MLB?

That's his dad iirc. The one we got is 23.

https://www.bluebombers.com/players/matthew-jaworski/169347/

Edited August 8Aug 8 by bigg jay

7 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

Matt Jaworski has been moved from the retired list back to the practice roster. Seems like good news.

Good to see my cousin back in the lineup!

Jaworski seems like an upgrade on fletcher in my opinion. Based on his limited play last season, I’d start him over fletcher. Maybe Jenkins is back after the bye Also as both he and jaworski looked good in limited reps. Doesn’t hurt to add more talent.

I was excited to have Jaworski in blue and gold this year.

But our problem area seems to be everything else.

2 hours ago, Goalie said:

Jaworski seems like an upgrade on fletcher in my opinion. Based on his limited play last season, I’d start him over fletcher. Maybe Jenkins is back after the bye Also as both he and jaworski looked good in limited reps. Doesn’t hurt to add more talent.

fletcher fails a few major litmus tests for succeeding on the dl, especially as a tweener inside/out guy. Bring in jaworski

I was really excited for Jaworski... And Jenkins... Hopefully one of em works out anyhow.

Bombers are back from their bye week and Collaros is taking 1st team reps according to 3DN.

15 hours ago, BBlink said:

I was excited to have Jaworski in blue and gold this year.

But our problem area seems to be everything else.

Our DL was a key factor in just giving up 200+ yards rushing in a quarter. If that’s possible, basically nothing else matters.

4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Our DL was a key factor in just giving up 200+ yards rushing in a quarter. If that’s possible, basically nothing else matters.

Fair point. We sucked ass against the run last game. Part scheme, part linebackers, DBs who can't tackle. But for sure cannot give a free pass to the d line. Just commenting that the d line seems to be the only part of our team making any plays this year, albeit in pass rush situations.

On 2026-08-08 at 10:10 AM, 17to85 said:

Now do a receiver!

Paging Duron Carter ;)

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

Bombers are back from their bye week and Collaros is taking 1st team reps according to 3DN.

I mean good to see Collaros back I guess but if you have Stanley starting at LT and Brockton is out it’s going to be ugly no matter who’s under center for the Bombers.

Would really like to see Broxton slide over to LT with Vanterpool staying at RT....