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Good, but we better see some dead weight on the roster jettisoned.

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Osh is staying I guess we can lock this thread down

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..........and a new OC

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9 hours ago, GCn20 said:

HC has final say on how talent is assembled, GM has final say on what talent is available to the HC. That's how it works on our team, and every other team out there. Our lack of talent is 100% on the GM. We sit here and grouse about guys like Jake Thomas, but it is Kyle Walters that keeps putting contracts in front of him. Every offseason is an opportunity for the GM to get rid of or keep talent. The HC does not have any form of final say on the roster in that time. It is 100% the GM's job and responsibility as to who will be out there come June. If you know you have a player that you should move on from, even if he is a coaches favorite, it is 100% (and this can't even be disputed) up to the GM to have a tough conversation with a player and the coach who loves him and then swing the axe. It amazes me that you would think otherwise.  During the season, it is tougher on the GM to do that for sure, but at the end of the day he is the boss and the HC is the employee. If that is not the way it works in Winnipeg then Walters isn't doing his job properly.

This isn't some new phenomenon, for crissakes Walters signed Collaros to a 2 year extension the year after he clearly looked cooked. Is that on MOS? Not a chance. We've been talking about Thomas for the better part of 3 years now. Walters re-upped him twice. Walters hands out the contracts not MOS.

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Just now, Dr Zaius said:

Just can hogan and I'm happy.

There would've just been too much uncertainty 

Coach leaves pretty much guarantees he's gone. Knowing Osh, if he stays he'll probably bring him back. Wouldn't want to admit he was wrong. 

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52 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Good, but we better see some dead weight on the roster jettisoned.

100 agree... I'm happy he's staying... but nervous about who he wants to stay with him... please, please, please no Jake and Kolo...

and as much as I still see a role for Willie (and even Vaughters)... If I had to choose those two or the two raw rookies we saw in game 18... I'll take the rookies

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Willie has a role... but the problem is that every season he acts as his own agent and believes that he is the #1 guy in the league.  The drop off this season was considerable and I don't think him taking a hair cut  on a deal is going to work.  Some other team will offer him beaucoup dollars.  

I'm just hoping that we have fresh blood as an OC (someone who at least has a positive track record and not a complete unknown)  and no more C level guys being signed to sit on a bench.   We need 2 - 3 difference makers.  

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18 minutes ago, bearpants said:

100 agree... I'm happy he's staying... but nervous about who he wants to stay with him... please, please, please no Jake and Kolo...

and as much as I still see a role for Willie (and even Vaughters)... If I had to choose those two or the two raw rookies we saw in game 18... I'll take the rookies

Willie is one of my all time favourite Bombers, and even I can see that he needs to be more of a complimentary piece at this stage of his career. I’d like to see him stay on in that role but we need to have new guys as the primary DE’s. 

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On 2025-11-12 at 4:25 PM, pw13 said:

Berger is a former radio reporter who covered the Argos as sideline reporter about 30 years ago, and spent most of his career on the Leafs beat. He now works -- I'm not kidding -- at a funeral service, and often makes seemingly-in the-know predictions on social media. His track record for accuracy is not stellar. He's kind of Marty York Lite -- no longer working in the media but still wanting to seem connected.

    

I guess it's true that dead men tell no tales

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42 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:

Etch got canned after 1 season. Here's hoping 

And by my memory, he was actually beeter than Hogan, but that wouldn't take much.

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23 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If anyone thinks Osh will change is dreaming. Another year of the same. Include Jake & Kolo coming back. 

Yep, I’m not too surprised. But i’m pretty disappointed. 

You can bank on a run it back season next year. 
Kola, Thomas, Hogan, kyrie, walking corpse of schoen and strev back if he wants. 

Wonder if we lose walters, jy or Marty. 

Expectations for the off season and next year are in the basement. Would love it if i’m wrong, but wouldn’t bet some one else money on it. 

5 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

https://3downnation.com/2025/11/14/official-kyle-walters-to-return-as-winnipeg-blue-bombers-general-manager-in-2026/
 

Walters back too

That’s interesting and answers one of my questions. 

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12 minutes ago, Tracker said:

And by my memory, he was actually beeter than Hogan, but that wouldn't take much.

Osh's first OC & DC were Marcel Bellefeuille )I believe) & Etch. Osh was STC. No promising assistants would come here. 

5 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yep, I’m not too surprised. But i’m pretty disappointed. 

You can bank on a run it back season next year. 
Kola, Thomas, Hogan, kyrie, walking corpse of schoen and strev back if he wants. 

Wonder if we lose walters, jy or Marty. 

Expectations for the off season and next year are in the basement. Would love it if i’m wrong, but wouldn’t bet some one else money on it. 

That’s interesting and answers one of my questions. 

They aren't the Canadian Mafia anymore. They're the Three Stooges. This just smells so bad. It's like it's 2013 all over again. With the admin cap if this team craters then we're totally effed so bad. 

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4 minutes ago, sportmentary2012 said:

Wow choosing Winnipeg over TO. How bad are things there for him to spurn his hometown?? I am happy he is staying for consistency sake but he will eventually go and what is the back up plan??

He is absolutely not from Toronto... Winnipeg is actually more like his actual home town than Toronto is...

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I said before and I'll say it again... Dickie was granted the opportunity to fix a FAR WORSE mess, and he hasn't earned half of what Osh has. 

We'll know PDQ whether or not Walters and Osh have learned their lessons. 

I am forever the optimist and am already looking forward to what should be a very productive offseason...

Pete Rising Star

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14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I said before and I'll say it again... Dickie was granted the opportunity to fix a FAR WORSE mess, and he hasn't earned half of what Osh has. 

We'll know PDQ whether or not Walters and Osh have learned their lessons. 

I am forever the optimist and am already looking forward to what should be a very productive offseason...

By any measure for the last 6 years we have been the best performing team on and off the field. Both OShea and Walters deserve to be back

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