GDT - Toronto Argonauts @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Streveler has no ability to hit anything intermediate which is where CFL offenses live.

2 completions in that zone today, 2 INT's in that zone today.

If he can't run, he's completely ******.

I completely disagree with that assertation. The fact that both our qbs are struggling with pressure and finding receivers with separation leads me to believe the problems are less QB related and more everything else is a problem

[Jets]

1 hour ago, blue85gold said:

There’s even a guy on the PR that has done that. Better than a back up RB who gets no carries  

give him some credit, he got to fumble 2 kickoffs

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

I completely disagree with that assertation. The fact that both our qbs are struggling with pressure and finding receivers with separation leads me to believe the problems are less QB related and more everything else is a problem

There's a drastic difference between Collaros and Streveler's passing ability.  Even with Collaros struggling.  And the O in general.  You'd have to watch the games with your head jammed up your butt to not admit that.

Like take the emotion out...watch the football.  Streveler can barely hit a pass over 10 yards.  He's arm throwing.  He doesn't set his feet often.  He doesn't move off the first read, ever.  And now he's stuck in the pocket because he can't out run a DL.

Streveler is like Dustin Crum without being able to run.  And it sucks, because he's a Bombers legend.  But he's busted up, and he's not a pocket passer.  Unlikely he'll become one in his 30s because he doesn't appear close to admitting the physical limitations he has...and honestly one of the biggest ones is his throwing motion and appearing to struggle to get anything from his lower half into his passes.

Edited 10 hours ago by JuranBoldenRules

[bb1]

Man i didn't watch the game yet read these comments thought we had lost for sure...🤣🤣

[sweep the leg]

The blocking on Vaval’s kickoff td was perfect. The overhead view they showed at the stadium let you see how perfect of a tunnel they made. The punt td was 90% Vaval.

Isolating your 5’8 receiver against a 6’2 defender for a deep ball in the endzone was unbelievably stupid. Add in the game situation and it becomes a fireable offense.

Good coaching by the Argos moving Coxie out against Bond and kicking to Cooley. Pretty questionable coaching when they tried back to back handoffs from the goal line.

[17to85]

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

There's a drastic difference between Collaros and Streveler's passing ability.  Even with Collaros struggling.  And the O in general.  You'd have to watch the games with your head jammed up your butt to not admit that.

yeah streveler is much better at getting the ball out quicker and gives the shorter passes a chance.... Collaros throws ints like they're going out of style intermediate these days too and sure maybe he throws a better deep ball... but I'm not so sure that's true these days either. 

Both qbs have the same problems, either they both suck (maybe) but more likely there's a pile of other problems going on too. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, bb1 said:

Man i didn't watch the game yet read these comments thought we had lost for sure...🤣🤣

If we get 3 return TD's every game we'll never lose again.

Unfortunately we'll probably need the offense to do better than sawing off TD's with the opposing D.

[17to85]

1 minute ago, bb1 said:

Man i didn't watch the game yet read these comments thought we had lost for sure...🤣🤣

14 points from special teams and 7 from the defense.... so yeah the offense didn't do a ton to help the cause. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, 17to85 said:

yeah streveler is much better at getting the ball out quicker and gives the shorter passes a chance.... Collaros throws ints like they're going out of style intermediate these days too and sure maybe he throws a better deep ball... but I'm not so sure that's true these days either. 

Both qbs have the same problems, either they both suck (maybe) but more likely there's a pile of other problems going on too. 

Ball isn't coming out quick.  Lots of statue sacks tonight.  Lots of panic.

Streveler had a good 2nd half vs BC.  OL was dominant in that game.  Playaction was working.  He's doing nothing with his arm otherwise.

[wbbfan]

50 minutes ago, Bomber_fanaddict said:

Not to hate on Demski as he’s been our most solid receiver this year. But 5/5 for 67 isn’t earth shattering lol. Add in his 30 on the ground and it’s a decent night. But man are we missing a deep threat. Or a QB who can hit a deep ball. I feel Demski is great at the short routs and getting YAC but too small for the jump balls. 

Missing every threat really. Deep threat, big possession guy who can win 50/50s, even yac guy. we got all the filler and no steak or potatoes. 
 

 

 

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Ball isn't coming out quick.  Lots of statue sacks tonight.  Lots of panic.

Streveler had a good 2nd half vs BC.  OL was dominant in that game.  Playaction was working.  He's doing nothing with his arm otherwise.

and collaros had one big game where he hit some deep shots and otherwise has been hot garbage... this team has lots of problems and I think qb is the least of the concerns on offense right now. 

[Noeller]

A win that feels like a loss... Did not give me any hope going forward. Need to pray VAJ is out and the Stamps continue to suck next week. It's our only hope. 

[bryan35]

24 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

and collaros had one big game where he hit some deep shots and otherwise has been hot garbage... this team has lots of problems and I think qb is the least of the concerns on offense right now. 

Collaros is 10 times better than Strev. Not even close. Stop trolling.

[rebusrankin]

46 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

He got sacked and threw some ints... same as collaros has been doing. honestly I feel a **** load more confident with streveler over collaros... but when you got Demski and Stearns as your only reliable receivers and an OL that's less than adequate what the **** is going to do? especially with an OC with training wheels on. 

Respectfully what about Streveler gives you more confidence?

[Bigblue204]

Add me to the list of people losing faith in Strev. Hogans play calling didnt help. Especially with how he utilized Brady. If I have to watch that pos read option play one more time im going to lose my mind.

Bonds is a serviceable field side corner. He isnt your main guy though. Thomas is who we thought he was and Jefferson can still be the guy when he has more help.

Vaval. ****** rights buddy. Hes very close as a db too. Like very very close. This guy has a future in the CFL I hope its with Wpg.

That fade to our shortest rec in the endzone is a solid call mid 2nd q. Sure....throw em something so bizarre it might actually work....mid 2nd quarter i dont hate it. Under 3min in the 4th quarter during a 1 score game that youre scraping by on....might be the worst play call I've seen in 5+ yrs. Holy ****. There's no excuse for that and no explanation. I can only hope Hogan knows just how ******* stupid that was.

Glad the defense and special teams came to play cause that offense was ugly.

4-3 and in the hunt!!

Edited 10 hours ago by Bigblue204

[Noeller]

I'm not as worried about Hogan because JJ is there. You'll never ever hear anything publicly about it, but I'm curious if (behind the scenes) JJ starts getting more and more responsibility...

[JuranBoldenRules]

3 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I'm not as worried about Hogan because JJ is there. You'll never ever hear anything publicly about it, but I'm curious if (behind the scenes) JJ starts getting more and more responsibility...

Jarious Jackson has basically only had good seasons as a playcaller with MBT.  Otherwise cheeks.

[Jets]

This kinda feels like this is it.  The dynasty of the last 5+ years has come crashing down to earth.  There's been a slow fade the last few seasons, but this season is the spectacular explosion at the end.  We're pulling off a few wins on the back of luck and a bit of veteran guile, but it won't last nor is it a recipe for a competitive playoff team. 

The crappy part is that it's only going to get worse from here for a long while until they completely cut bait and clean house.  At best we might manage a couple half assed seasons, but our time as a league capstone is firmly in the rear view mirror, this game proved it more than any.

[Yourface]

Why does it look like Streveler side-arms every throw? Dude has the weirdest throwing motion ever. If he could get a little more air on his throws, I think it would help with the interceptions.

Edited 3 hours ago by Yourface

[blue85gold]

Strev looked like a 1 read QB. Then it was head down and plow into the dline. 

Looked ok in the short passing game which is fine sometimes but makes it tough to score when you need to always string together 10 plays to do it 

[Goalie]

Add me to the list of people who think Streveler isn’t it. Dude can’t really run anymore and none of his throws have any strength behind them. 17 of 21 173 O TDs and 3 interceptions. There’s no future there. He’s Dustin Crum minus the ability to run. Seriously. Dude went to the nfl came back and got worse. Streveler isn’t in MBTs league right now and certainly nowhere close to a collaros. An injured collaros at that. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Goalie

[rebusrankin]

As many here do, I like Streveler, Bomber legend, helped us end the drought but he's not a starting QB. He can't throw the ball well enough or consistantly enough. The game plan tonight was so conservative and an attempt to limit errors and we still had 3 picks. Can't have an offense of only run plays, misdirection and 7-10 yard passes which was all we got last night.

[Colin Unger]

Gonna assume we are all back to hoping Zach is back next week and Vernon is not? 

[Goalie]

Honestly. Artopoeous in pre season looked like the next guy behind Zach. Has some zip on his throws. I love Strev. He’s the man but 5 years ago is a long long time in sports and he’s not a starting cfl qb. Not even sure he’s a capable backup honestly. If I’m Walters I’m looking for QB help right now. 

[Tracker]

9 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

As many here do, I like Streveler, Bomber legend, helped us end the drought but he's not a starting QB. He can't throw the ball well enough or consistantly enough. The game plan tonight was so conservative and an attempt to limit errors and we still had 3 picks. Can't have an offense of only run plays, misdirection and 7-10 yard passes which was all we got last night.

Agreed that Streveler did not look like a legit #2 QB, let a lone a starter and his throwing mechanics are odd at the least. The question for me is how in Hell did he last as long in the NFL?