Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[SpeedFlex27]

32 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Nope they are not making any decisions for ZC.

They won't either. Milt just lost a son so I won't say anything about him.

However, I think Osh is a freaking hypocrite saying tht he cares about player safety. Sure... Yeah, like what he did to Schoen this year. The Collaros finger injury in last year's Grey Cup. The injured he started & played in the 2023 Grey Cup. Some, like Biggie, Collaros, Alexander & Demski couldn't run. Osh needs to shut his pie hole when saying that injuries are no one's business but the team & that he cares about player safety because to me he doesn't show it. If the team announced injuries like they used to I believe this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen as questions would be asked as to why an injured player who is  supposed to be 6 gamed are still playing. 

Edited 3 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[Booch]

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Osh says he cares about his players & doesn't like to talk about injuries or make them public. Yet, there he is playing an injured Dalton Schoen with a bad ankle in the 2023 Grey Cup & this season twice after he re-injured his knee. For a head coach so worried about his players health, why are injured players sin the lineup? It's amazing how often this has happened.  Look at that 2023 Grey Cup.

If he truly cared about his players health he never would have played them, yet he did. Injured players like Jackson Jeffcoat, Zach Collaros, Biggie, Kyrie Wilson & Rasheed Bailey. If he cared so much then why did they play? Sometimes I think the reason Osh is so secretive with player injuries is so he can play these players with no one actually knowing just how badly injured they are.

Back in the day, teams would release actual injury reports. If a player had a knee injury, they'd actually say what the injury was & how long they'll be out. I don;t believe that type of information was detrimental to any player.

Why should that be so secretive & why would a player feel his privacy has been violated?  These players are public figures. They should realize that injuries are news & fans want to know how long players will be out. If they're injured, then tell us th truth. Don't play a stupid song & dance routine with the media & fans. Don't hide behind some bullshit excuse that no one needs to know what the actual injuries are or recovery time. These type of things shouldn't be a secret. 

Dalton Schoen re-injured his knee in Calgary  then tried to gut it out in Regina only to reinjure his knee again is a prime example of that. How can a head coach claiming to be concerned with his player's health turn around & play Schoen with such a severe knee injury like he has??

and watching Wallace last game on fg unit trying to run and cover after the miss....no way dude should have been out there doing that...guy could barely run, and makes sense with a hip injury at 300+ pounds

Vibert should have been in as that extra Oline guy...and also is a guy who can play center...could have tossed him in for a few reps to get a look....but nope

7 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

They won't either. Milt just lost a son so I won't say anything about him.

However, I think Osh is a freaking hypocrite saying tht he cares about player safety. Sure... Yeah, like what he did to Schoen this year. The Collaros finger injury in last year's Grey Cup. The injured he started & played in the 2023 Grey Cup. Some, like Biggie, Collaros, Alexander & Demski couldn't run. Osh needs to shut his pie hole when saying that injuries are no one's business but the team & that he cares about player safety because to me he doesn't show it. If the team announced injuries like they used to I believe this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen as questions would be asked as to why an injured player who is  supposed to be 6 gamed are still playing. 

ZC...finger...ankle...next yr we had Bailey..Demski...Scoen...Biggie...all could run let alone have any explosiveness or ability to cut/break.....3 yrs straight we played hurt guys for no reason

Edited 3 hours ago by Booch

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

They won't either. Milt just lost a son so I won't say anything about him.

However, I think Osh is a freaking hypocrite saying tht he cares about player safety. Sure... Yeah, like what he did to Schoen this year. The Collaros finger injury in last year's Grey Cup. The injured he started & played in the 2023 Grey Cup. Some, like Biggie, Collaros, Alexander & Demski couldn't run. Osh needs to shut his pie hole when saying that injuries are no one's business but the team & that he cares about player safety because to me he doesn't show it. If the team announced injuries like they used to I believe this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen as questions would be asked as to why an injured player who is  supposed to be 6 gamed are still playing. 

You are making a lot of assumptions about players health without having a shred of real information to back it up. You are suggesting that you know more about the Winnipeg Blue Bombers players health than MOS and his team of medical professionals? Look, you make a valid point about rolling out players that aren't 100%. No arguing that. However, player safety is an entirely different thing. Tons of players around this league and every pro football league play through injuries. This isn't something new. If you want to debate whether they should or not that's completely valid. If you want to debate whether the team rolling them out is violating their player safety...prove it. Show me the medical reports.

Edited 1 hour ago by GCn20

[Tracker]

12 hours ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

I’m forever grateful for the ascent of 2016-18 and kings of the mountain 2019-21… but the last few endings have soured me on the Bombers saying they value the person/player first.

When I read O’Shea’s quote from Tait, “But as of anything, any time a guy gets nicked up we are always going to put the player first.”

Sadly my first thought was calling BS.  I’m sure he thinks and believes this.  However, his actions from ZC to Bighill, Bailey, Schoen and many others (even Wallace last game) show that maybe he doesn’t really know what that means… that or the Bombers medical staff is negligent or being overruled.

 

 And I  bet he said that with a straight face, too.

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

You are making a lot of assumptions about players health without having a shred of real information to back it up. You are suggesting that you know more about the Winnipeg Blue Bombers players health than MOS and his team of medical professionals? Look, you make a valid point about rolling out players that aren't 100%. No arguing that. However, player safety is an entirely different thing. Tons of players around this league and every pro football league play through injuries. This isn't something new. If you want to debate whether they should or not that's completely valid. If you want to debate whether the team rolling them out is violating their player safety...prove it. Show me the medical reports.

I am a behaviourist. and it matters little what people say, but are defined by what they do and O'Shea's past actions give a pretty clear as to his mindset.