1 minute ago, Captain Blue said:

You can absolutely criticize him. I am absolutely on this site to talk football about our favourite team, both the good and bad. What I take exception with is the sheer amount of comments and hate one player on an excellent defense generates.

Whose fault is that? Mine? Booch? Johnny Abonny? Mike? Anyone else??? As I said, it is what it is. 

Just now, 17to85 said:

Oh I dunno, walters is patient but not oblivious. I don't think he’s going to sit on his hands this offseason given some of the issues that have come up. He isn't a knee jerk type but 2 grey cups with similar problems and the poor start to the year and general offensive inconsistency I suspect he does ask for explanations. 

I'd love it if Walters says enough is enough with some players here & made him release them. 

I think walters did start that process last season. He's talked in the past about how you can't do it all at once but how there needs to be that turnover. I think after 2022 and they brought nearly everyone back he wasn't even totally convinced on that course but did it anyway.

8 minutes ago, Captain Blue said:

You can absolutely criticize him. I am absolutely on this site to talk football about our favourite team, both the good and bad. What I take exception with is the sheer amount of comments and hate one player on an excellent defense generates.

Nature of the beast when you're the weakest link.  If/when they move on from Jake, someone else becomes the whipping boy.   

Jake Thomas wouldn't take the heat he does if they didn't deploy him like he was 2001 era Doug brown.

If Jake was a rotational DT for 15 snaps, I'd say little. When he starts and plays reps like he is Prime Doug Brown, I say lots.

I blame a Cam Lawson injury for that more than blaming coaches tho... 

14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I blame a Cam Lawson injury for that more than blaming coaches tho... 

We started more than the required number of Canadians though.

With the exception of a couple of games where Randolph was starting at guard, they were starting 6 Canadians on Offense (3 OL, 2 Rec, 1 RB) Ford in the secondary, Kramdi at LB

That's 8 Canadians without even using the nationalized American rule

Thomas and Schmeckel could easily have been used as rotational pieces only, with an American being Lawson's primary replacement

I'd never claim to be an expert, but that approach would sure make sense to me

 

4 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

We started more than the required number of Canadians though.

That is true... Good point. And for the record, I was quite vocal about a perceived misuse of the DL. They were absolutely married to a Nat DT for some reason, so that was never going to change whether it was Jake or Cam. 

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

With the exception of a couple of games where Randolph was starting at guard, they were starting 6 Canadians on Offense (3 OL, 2 Rec, 1 RB) Ford in the secondary, Kramdi at LB

That's 8 Canadians without even using the nationalized American rule

Thomas and Schmeckel could easily have been used as rotational pieces only, with an American being Lawson's primary replacement

I'd never claim to be an expert, but that approach would sure make sense to me

 

100%... And even those of us who are taking a "let's all chill..." Approach right now, were very vocal about this weird use of Nats during the season....

19 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I blame a Cam Lawson injury for that more than blaming coaches tho... 

explain last yr then when he was deployed more than Lawson...and dont say Lawson wasnt ready....he was a beast already

but as others have said....as extreme depth...5-10 reps a game....be stomacheable.....that being said if it was also ratio dependent....also he was a part of a good defence....but what's his cumulative contribution to it...and where has he stood out.....in a impactful way?....But anyone who can honesty say him taking reps before Woods..Adams...Fox make our defense better truly not watching. ...and is strictly a Osh loyalist

5 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

With the exception of a couple of games where Randolph was starting at guard, they were starting 6 Canadians on Offense (3 OL, 2 Rec, 1 RB) Ford in the secondary, Kramdi at LB

That's 8 Canadians without even using the nationalized American rule

Thomas and Schmeckel could easily have been used as rotational pieces only, with an American being Lawson's primary replacement

I'd never claim to be an expert, but that approach would sure make sense to me

 

as what many of us were saying all yr

Osh has a Canadian bias and if not for the ratio would dress as many as he could...even if they are a lesser talent....he does it now....

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

I think walters did start that process last season. He's talked in the past about how you can't do it all at once but how there needs to be that turnover. I think after 2022 and they brought nearly everyone back he wasn't even totally convinced on that course but did it anyway.

I agree, though I think they did better with in mid season by way of need. 

36 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Really? Ew. 
 

15 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

We all knew that. I wonder if they wouldn’t be better off trading rourke though 

Dear BC,

Buck would make a good head coach

4 hours ago, Booch said:

and or an "i have no effin clue" response

I would bet Mr. O'Shea knows exactly what went wrong and knows that he is on the hot seat, but is in public denial. Whistling past the graveyard.

48 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

 

Calgary 

Edmonton

Hamilton

?

27 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Calgary 

Edmonton

Hamilton

?

Saskatchewan may want to go younger at QB.

Edited November 21, 20241 yr by bigg jay

51 minutes ago, Tracker said:

I would bet Mr. O'Shea knows exactly what went wrong and knows that he is on the hot seat, but is in public denial. Whistling past the graveyard.

He’s not on a hot seat tho. 15 people (I’m being generous) on the internet repeating things does not equate to a dude who has taken his team to the cup 5 straight years being on a hot seat or seat of any kind really except the one he parks his ass on at home or the office or car of wherever else sitting is involved. 
 

5 straight cups. I’d like some answers for sure but he’s not on a hot seat. 25 he might be but right now he’s not. 2025 could be a huge celebration or huge disaster 

37 minutes ago, Goalie said:

He’s not on a hot seat tho. 15 people (I’m being generous) on the internet repeating things does not equate to a dude who has taken his team to the cup 5 straight years being on a hot seat or seat of any kind really except the one he parks his ass on at home or the office or car of wherever else sitting is involved. 
 

5 straight cups. I’d like some answers for sure but he’s not on a hot seat. 25 he might be but right now he’s not. 2025 could be a huge celebration or huge disaster 

Also 5 straight cups and 2 wins at the beginning of that run. People forget about the wins because it's convenient. Absolutely there are questions about why we can't finish the past few years and The Trinity will dive into that as a unit, for sure. I look forward to seeing what they come up with for next summer!

3 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Funny comment from Farhan about Edmonton not asking about Rick Campbell... since he was fired, I'm pretty sure they don't have to ask permission to talk to him.

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

He’s not on a hot seat tho. 15 people (I’m being generous) on the internet repeating things does not equate to a dude who has taken his team to the cup 5 straight years being on a hot seat or seat of any kind really except the one he parks his ass on at home or the office or car of wherever else sitting is involved. 
 

5 straight cups. I’d like some answers for sure but he’s not on a hot seat. 25 he might be but right now he’s not. 2025 could be a huge celebration or huge disaster 

He certainly is not on the hot seat. The seat could warm up with a rough start next year but he’s gonna get lots of leash. 
 Bucks seat is pretty hot imo. 
 

 

Yeah oshea might have flipped on the seat warmer but he's got lots of rope left.

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Dear BC,

Buck would make a good head coach

And Jake a great DT....

MOS is not now, nor will he be, on any sort of hot seat this offseason. I am sure some frank conversations will be had between the trinity this offseason about what they can all do better and what changes need to take place to make that happen. None of those changes will be MOS, nor will his name even come up.