Every bomber fan knows that the offence of any team in the CFL takes longer to develop than the defence. The linemen and the blockers behind them need to know what's happening immediately beside them, how to adapt to their fellow teammates. The running backs need to know where the holes are going to emerge. The blocking schemes on passing plays have similar challenges. You can't learn this in practices...

The Bomber Brain Trust decided player evaluation for the few positions that were open was far more important than getting the veterans in harmony with each other. So we have major rust to deal with, more so than usual this season.

There has been such a major talent improvement on our defence that just maybe we can shut down what was a very hot offence in Montréal at the end of last season.

On offence Brady Olivera is going to need a lot of determination as he tries to guess where the holes will be as his O line feel each other out. He's pretty good at seeing what is developing. If he gets 50 yards of rushing that would be pretty good. I'm not sure how open he will be on checkoff plays and other swing passes.

Collaros is going to get sacked a lot on many missed assignments. But he can scramble and is very good at it. He loves the long bomb and we can only guess how many touchdowns he will throw. That's how the offence is going to score, I suspect.

What I think will make or break the game tomorrow is how many touchdowns the defence can supply on turnovers. Maybe one pick six and one or two forced fumbles. There is a real chance pressures on the quarterback will be up significantly this year.

How else can we win this game?

5 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

This is a very small part of the game last night, and there are many more important things to complain about, but on a couple of runs by Streveler he faked the pitch to Brady before taking off.  Nothing against that play specifically, but shouldn’t we actually run a RB toss play during the game to make a fake toss more effective?  I might have missed it, but I don’t recall a single one.

Thats true, part of it is also that he was faking the pitch too early. His feet are still when he fakes the pitch, so even if the D freezes, he doesn't actually gain any thing. If you take a few steps, you can see the pursuit angle and actually make a read, if you have the angle then you fake and you freeze the D while you accelerate with a speed cut ideally. I suspect that is some thing we will iron out with time. 

12 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Last time we beat Montreal the score was like 47 17. The last 2 times we played them the combined bombers scored in 2 games is 36. Perhaps Montreal has figured us out. Thorpe has figured out buck and our O. Prior to that i see a 17 to 3 win also. Since then tho. It’s 2 0 Montreal. 

Thorpe is a good DC. That said, Tor also exposed us in the previous GC. It'll be interesting to see how we play the riders this year. 

5 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

https://3downnation.com/2024/06/07/sergio-castillo-rips-cfls-new-chipped-footballs-fellow-kickers-come-to-his-defence/
 

Fire Ambrosie 

Could also explain why Lauther missed so many consecutive FG's in pre-season, which was uncharacteristic.

57 minutes ago, JCon said:

Unfortunately, the Bombers played their last pre-season game in a game that actually mattered.

 

What is Buck trying to do out there? I am confused with this offense and have been for a couple of years. Why can't we take advantage of having such elite playmakers out there? 

Maybe he's trying a play-calling AI designed by Lapo. 🤪

Yep. Last night sucked. Worried? Not particularly. 

As last night was drawing to a close I kept thinking of last season's home game in July against BC. Took it on the chin pretty good that night, didn't we?

We have a veteran team, the best coaching staff in the league. They turned it around after that game, and they'll turn it around after this one.

Looking forward to next week against Ottawa. Get the boys on the road, away from the noise and get the freight train back on track.

It's going to be interesting to watch next week in ott. Zachs struggled on the road last year. Despite 4-5 of his home games last year being not great either for yards or picks, his road split was much worse than his home split. His passing yards per game last year on the road are the exact same as his 209 yards last night. Along with a much worse 1.55 tds per game to 1 int per game on the road. 

Plush the fact we haven't beaten ott or won in ott since week 2 of 2022, where we played them back to back but they played us really hard in both games. With us winning both by a combined 9 points. And a total of just 2 wins in ottawa since week 4 of 2019, an the fact that the ott D will be preparing for us by practicing against Dru Brown who knows what we do inside and out and can run it effectively.  It's going to be an interesting match up for sure. 

Historically we with zach and back to just with mos bounce back from beat downs really well. But each year we answer the bell of being hammered worse. Some thing is gonna give next week. 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Could also explain why Lauther missed so many consecutive FG's in pre-season, which was uncharacteristic.

Why would the league want to force feed this technology into the kicking game?  It’s pretty clear none of the kickers are on board and it’s clearly having a negative effect on performance.  What kind of stats does the chip even generate?  Can’t see how, whatever it provides, is worth messing with the integrity of the game.  There’s a pretty simple solution here.

Making the game worse for stats reason while not even being able to generate stats properly. Good job cfl

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Making the game worse for stats reason while not even being able to generate stats properly. Good job cfl

It's how we roll.

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Making the game worse for stats reason while not even being able to generate stats properly. Good job cfl

Apparently the thrill of gambling on statistics is more interesting than the sport itself, who knew?

Genius sports. Run by idiots obviously. But the als kicker was 2 for 2 on field goals so maybe it’s not as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be. Guess we will have to see what happens in the other games. 

Edited June 7, 20241 yr by Goalie

Apparently the answer to this threads title is a hard no.

I'll show myself out the back door.

11 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Genius sports. Run by idiots obviously. But the als kicker was 2 for 2 on field goals so maybe it’s not as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be. Guess we will have to see what happens in the other games. 

2-2 on field goals but also missed a convert.  Castillo also mentioned his average in practice is way down too so the game is just one example.  If 10 of 11 kickers in the league voted against it, they aren't doing just because.  I'd like to know who the one kicker was though.

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Apparently the answer to this threads title is a hard no.

I'll show myself out the back door.

They stopped the als for the most part,  but o and teams were determined to give it all away

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

They stopped the als for the most part,  but o and teams were determined to give it all away

Agree just trying to lighten the mood a bit. 🙂

The D isn’t concerning. The O is extremely concerning tho. 

47 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Genius sports. Run by idiots obviously. But the als kicker was 2 for 2 on field goals so maybe it’s not as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be. Guess we will have to see what happens in the other games. 

The Als kicker hit 2 for 2, yes, but his longest was 22 yards.  Castillo made his short one too, from 17.  There would be a more noticeable impact the further back you go.

Maybe the Als kicker missed both kicks but the microchip corrected the kick.

One of the interesting things about our D vs mtl, is we used a 30 front about as much as a 40. We blended using a 30 over set with the ends as a jack. With that we may well have spent more time in a 30 than a 40 alignment. But we didn’t drop from the 3-4 over with that end. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that wrinkle in the future. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see more 30 front on run downs when either ayers earns significant reps or biggie comes back. 

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

Maybe the Als kicker missed both kicks but the microchip corrected the kick.

Was wondering if Legghio was the one that voted to keep them for that very reason.

If the Bombers want to figure out how to use the Designated American they should look at Calgary's depth chart this week.

There's absolutely no reason to not use this.  Even if you don't plan on using it to the limit you increase your flexibility in case of injury(ies) immensely.

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

If the Bombers want to figure out how to use the Designated American they should look at Calgary's depth chart this week.

There's absolutely no reason to not use this.  Even if you don't plan on using it to the limit you increase your flexibility in case of injury(ies) immensely.

How’d the stamps use it? 

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

How’d the stamps use it? 

Probably using a derivative loophole of the rules intention.

‘Ford was victimized for the biggest play in the game, a 76-yard flea-flicker from Cody Fajardo to Philpot that came midway through the fourth quarter. Ford set his feet after the ball was handed off to Walter Fletcher, allowing the receiver to get behind him and the entire defence. Fajardo hit him over the middle of the field and the University of Calgary product outran Ford and Evan Holm in a footrace to the end zone.

“It’s just eye discipline — it was bad on my part,” said Ford postgame. “I looked and I’d seen the running back had the ball and he was still running. I was like, ‘Oh, it’s a handoff,’ then he pitched it back and I was like, ‘Oh, shoot.’ Bad eyes. My eyes are supposed to be on my guy. Stuff happens.”’

3rd down nation article today about the flea flicker. 

1 minute ago, Bombertown said:

 

‘Ford was victimized for the biggest play in the game, a 76-yard flea-flicker from Cody Fajardo to Philpot that came midway through the fourth quarter. Ford set his feet after the ball was handed off to Walter Fletcher, allowing the receiver to get behind him and the entire defence. Fajardo hit him over the middle of the field and the University of Calgary product outran Ford and Evan Holm in a footrace to the end zone.

“It’s just eye discipline — it was bad on my part,” said Ford postgame. “I looked and I’d seen the running back had the ball and he was still running. I was like, ‘Oh, it’s a handoff,’ then he pitched it back and I was like, ‘Oh, shoot.’ Bad eyes. My eyes are supposed to be on my guy. Stuff happens.”’

3rd down nation article today about the flea flicker. 

Eye discipline the life of a DB.

Can we roll our eyes at the als pulling out a flea flicker late in game one when they're already cruising to a victory? Were they trying to win the cup in June?