Figured maybe we could use a thread specific to the warmup game

Seen on Reddit:

“Just like last season, the Toronto Argonauts and visiting Montreal Alouettes will meet at BMO Field with a trip to the Grey Cup on the line in Saturday’s East Division final. This will be the third year in a row that the road to the championship game will go through Toronto.

For the Argonauts, their focus is on getting back to the big game. The Alouettes are looking to break a 13-year drought since their last Grey Cup appearance back in 2010, which was also when they won their last championship.

The Argonauts are back in the playoffs for a third-straight season with head coach Ryan Dinwiddie. Toronto is also hosting its third-straight East final and is looking to reach the Grey Cup for the third time in six seasons (the 2020 season was cancelled by the COVID-19 pandemic).

The Alouettes, are making their third-straight appearance in the playoffs and first under new head coach Jason Maas. Montreal hasn’t won a divisional final since 2010, going 0-3 in that span — including two losses to the Argonauts.”

1 hour ago, JCon said:

Isn't Oakman up too? Or did he re-up last year? 

FA according to 3DN:

Defensive line

Brandon Barlow (A)
Thomas Costigan (A)
Dewayne Hendrix (A)
Shawn Oakman (A)

But there's more!

 

Linebacker

Jack Cassar (N)
Trevor Hoyte (N)
Jonathan Jones (A)
Wynton McManis (A)
Adarius Pickett (A)
Robert Priester (A)
Henoc Muamba (N

 

1 hour ago, JCon said:

Isn't Oakman up too? Or did he re-up last year? 

Oakman is up... can you imagine?

Oakman,  mcmanis and Pickett... what's that gonna cost you?

18 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Oakman,  mcmanis and Pickett... what's that gonna cost you?

more than u can afford when you have some Canadians due for new deals as well....and MOP Kelly pulling in 6 large

 

12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Argo fans on social media are still trying to justify Chad kelly (probably) going to win the MOP Award by saying he was the best qb in the league because his team won 16 games. That's it. They won 16 games. That makes him automatically the best. As if  winning the most games had anything to do with it.  They don't like the criticism that Kelly is getting from other team's fanbases. Anyone see Bluto, yet? 

Yeah, I called him a game manager as he benefited from a good return game and a good defence that produced sacks and turnovers.

The replies I got was that I was describing Collaros. Lol

Like, who the hell would call Zach a game manager? Not with his escapability, his deep ball threat and ability to produce game winning drives.

I would think that O'Day is drooling at the prospect.

 

I don't think Oakman will get much from Argos.  Not sure there will be much of a market either.  He's been more disappointing than anything.  Wouldn't be surprised if he's an XFL player.

McManis is one of the best players in the league.

31 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

Like, who the hell would call Zach a game manager? 

edit - my reading comprehension skills are limited. 

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by Noeller

Just now, Noeller said:

Well, I mean.... he and his wife did when they came up with those hats. But that was in jest, I suppose.... but Nichols and Glenn definitely were game managers. And did it well. 

I think Glenn could go out and win games occasionally. Nichols through and through was a game manager though.

 

 

4 minutes ago, CodyT said:

I think Glenn could go out and win games occasionally. Nichols through and through was a game manager though.

Nah... Nichols was 9-1 until his injury in 2019. He was a winner, for sure. He and Glenn weren't superstars, but they were just a tier below...

Just now, Noeller said:

Nah... Nichols was 9-1 until his injury in 2019. He was a winner, for sure. He and Glenn weren't superstars, but they were just a tier below...

I would definitely label Nichols a game manager. My memories of him is throwing the ball into the stands whenever there was a hint of trouble.

5 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

I would definitely label Nichols a game manager. My memories of him is throwing the ball into the stands whenever there was a hint of trouble.

Yeah, I mis-read your earlier post...  insane that people were calling Zach a Game Manager. At times he can be (playoff games) but during summer months he has absolutely decimated teams by himself. Collaros, however, definitely was a game manager. He could bust out and throw for big gains, but by and large, he was a winner who didn't have to do it himself. 

24 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Nah... Nichols was 9-1 until his injury in 2019. He was a winner, for sure. He and Glenn weren't superstars, but they were just a tier below...

7-2

32 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Nah... Nichols was 9-1 until his injury in 2019. He was a winner, for sure. He and Glenn weren't superstars, but they were just a tier below...

For once I agree with Noeller,   pre big injuries the guy was able to throw the ball down field and would attack.   

Post big injury he was a noodle arm who had to be a game manager because physically he was done.    

I posted a long time ago the stats of him before his injury where he averaged nearly 300 yards per game... post injury it was a bunch of 150 -225 yards where he dunked it off to the running back because he played extremely defensive.    

 

That 2016 winning streak with Nichols as QB1 was awesome.  Guy could run, lots of zip on the ball and played with an urgency that the offense bought into.

I just always remember him being "meh" and we were happy to have him because we'd had a terrible string of qbs before him.

Maybe I don't give him enough credit. But I do remember getting into playoff games and thinking, Nichols ain't gonna get the job done

Glenn I liked watching play when he was on. Was a better version of Trevor Harris in his glory days imo

Why didnt he pull himself from the game?

He felt ok to play but well enough to shake hands?

 

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by WinnipegGordo

5 minutes ago, CodyT said:

But I do remember getting into playoff games and thinking, Nichols ain't gonna get the job done

He got the job done, it was the D failed to get the job done in the playoffs.

Just now, WinnipegGordo said:

Why didnt he pull himself from the game?

 

The excuse train is rolling.

2 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Oakman is up... can you imagine?

That’d be tight af. Starting next to Lawson with the best of fox/walker rotating would be sick. 

2 hours ago, CodyT said:

I just always remember him being "meh" and we were happy to have him because we'd had a terrible string of qbs before him.

Maybe I don't give him enough credit. But I do remember getting into playoff games and thinking, Nichols ain't gonna get the job done

Glenn I liked watching play when he was on. Was a better version of Trevor Harris in his glory days imo

Ironically Matt played excellent in the playoffs for us.

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

Nah... Nichols was 9-1 until his injury in 2019. He was a winner, for sure. He and Glenn weren't superstars, but they were just a tier below...

Glenn remains my favourite Bomber QB. I have one framed Bomber player photo on my wall and its Glenn. I will defend that man to the death. He was a Kevin Eiben belly flop away from ending our drought.

And Nichols was a big part of the foundation we built. The way our D played in 2019, he could have won it for us too.

Two QBs denied a special place in Bomber history due to injuries, IMO.

21 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Ironically Matt played excellent in the playoffs for us.

I don't remember. I retract my statement. I just remember having that "feeling" that we weren't going to get the job done.

With some time to think, I think it's because we were so conditioned to losing. 

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Ironically Matt played excellent in the playoffs for us.

Heartily disagree with this.  Lost 2018 WF in a game where the D was dominant and if offense could put together one drive we would have been in that Grey Cup.

2016 big first half, couldn't put together a couple drives in 2nd half to ice it.  2017, got hammered by Edmonton, put up some nice stats after beatdown.

42 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Heartily disagree with this.  Lost 2018 WF in a game where the D was dominant and if offense could put together one drive we would have been in that Grey Cup.

2016 big first half, couldn't put together a couple drives in 2nd half to ice it.  2017, got hammered by Edmonton, put up some nice stats after beatdown.

This is how I remember it.  They didn't generate enough points or time killing drives, as an offense. 

I remember the defense not being able to get off the field too. 

Also, I blame lapo for the offense. It's completely his MO to do nothing until it's too late.