Arnold_Palmer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, Mike said: Lawler is gone and honestly, 250k isn’t even an offer I would entertain. I would dread paying him 200k, never mind 250k. Agreed I wouldn’t be comfortable paying any receiver 200k. I won’t blame him if he takes that but if he wants to come back to Winnipeg I would imagine it would have to be at heavy discount compared to what BC is offering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: I told you Lawler @ $165K was wrong. $250K seems like an overpay tho. I hope we don't match the offer. don't base what it was assumed Lawler should get off that BC offer...He should be in line with what Begelton and Burnham got...proven guys who have done it more than one yr 6 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Agreed I wouldn’t be comfortable paying any receiver 200k. I won’t blame him if he takes that but if he wants to come back to Winnipeg I would imagine it would have to be at heavy discount compared to what BC is offering him. yup...no need to throw your SMS outta whack for a receiver of all players...u see what happens to teams like BC who way overpay for positions, and have bare bones for the important spots...Your lines...depth/role players...Ask Mike Reilly how that fat contract worked out for him the last few yrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Booch said: don't base what it was assumed Lawler should get off that BC offer...He should be in line with what Begelton and Burnham got...proven guys who have done it more than one yr yup...no need to throw your SMS outta whack for a receiver of all players...u see what happens to teams like BC who way overpay for positions, and have bare bones for the important spots...Your lines...depth/role players...Ask Mike Reilly how that fat contract worked out for him the last few yrs... I'm surprised Mike doesn't look like humpty dumpty after his time behind that trash oline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_fanaddict Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Does cost of living come into play with Lawler? I’m not sure how much $$$ is built into these contracts for housing allowance etc. I mean does $200k from the Bombers make more sense since he can stretch it out further in Manitoba? I’m not saying I want him at $200k but as an example. Would like to be around the $180k at most but I think it’ll be a hard sell for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 That's an insane offer by the Lions. Have they learned nothing from what happens when you overpay? wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: That's an insane offer by the Lions. Have they learned nothing from what happens when you overpay? New owner from a B.C. lumber mill billionaire family.....Must like throwing the cash around.... Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Stickem said: New owner from a B.C. lumber mill billionaire family.....Must like throwing the cash around.... I keep seeing this online. Owners don't sign players. We know this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Offense sells tickets. BC is hoping their receivers can do all the heavy lifting for whoever is throwing the ball while running for his life behind that OL. Lucky Lawler Burnham Rhymes Cottoy looks pretty f'ing good on paper to me, to bad everything else is iffy Bigblue204 and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Cost of living is way over stated around here. Most players are only 'in town' during the season, not living in the city full time. Players aren't buying a house or condo, which is the biggest difference between a big city and a small one. Lions don't train in Vancouver, they are way out in Whalley, which helps with rent as does sharing with other players. Lions boosters also help with accommodations. Food and gas are a bit more expensive. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said: Offense sells tickets. BC is hoping their receivers can do all the heavy lifting for whoever is throwing the ball while running for his life behind that OL. Lucky Lawler Burnham Rhymes Cottoy looks pretty f'ing good on paper to me, to bad everything else is iffy well Cottoy isnt a given...nor is Lawler yet....thats an offer....he also left there on bad terms....but even if its so....too many other holes there, and also...riding with a basic rookie starter...weak oline...sketchy defence who may gave up 3rd most points last yr....bad allocation of SMS if u ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Cost of living is way over stated around here. Most players are only 'in town' during the season, not living in the city full time. Players aren't buying a house or condo, which is the biggest difference between a big city and a small one. Lions don't train in Vancouver, they are way out in Whalley, which helps with rent as does sharing with other players. Lions boosters also help with accommodations. Food and gas are a bit more expensive. Don't come in here with real facts,that's not what we want to hear Tracker and GCJenks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Cost of living is way over stated around here. Most players are only 'in town' during the season, not living in the city full time. Players aren't buying a house or condo, which is the biggest difference between a big city and a small one. Lions don't train in Vancouver, they are way out in Whalley, which helps with rent as does sharing with other players. Lions boosters also help with accommodations. Food and gas are a bit more expensive. so they skirt SMS...as accomodation money is included in contracts...hmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Booch said: don't base what it was assumed Lawler should get off that BC offer...He should be in line with what Begelton and Burnham got...proven guys who have done it more than one yr yup...no need to throw your SMS outta whack for a receiver of all players...u see what happens to teams like BC who way overpay for positions, and have bare bones for the important spots...Your lines...depth/role players...Ask Mike Reilly how that fat contract worked out for him the last few yrs... Lawler is obviously worth more than you think he is on the open market. He's worth more than even I thought he was too. Lawler was the only 1000 yard receiver last year. He's worth more than Whitehead. 3 minutes ago, Booch said: so they skirt SMS...as accomodation money is included in contracts...hmmmmmmmmm Yawn. Like we skirt contracts by getting players off season jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, TBURGESS said: Lawler is obviously worth more than you think he is on the open market. He's worth more than even I thought he was too. Lawler was the only 1000 yard receiver last year. He's worth more than Whitehead. He deserves more than Whitehead, certainly. I bet Whitehead sells more jerseys (and tickets) though wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said: Offense sells tickets. BC is hoping their receivers can do all the heavy lifting for whoever is throwing the ball while running for his life behind that OL. Lucky Lawler Burnham Rhymes Cottoy looks pretty f'ing good on paper to me, to bad everything else is iffy That is good logic on paper. But unless you have the ol the rest of the pieces don't much matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) He has to want to go there. He sounded really bitter about how it ended, specifically that he was lied to about injury compensation. It is a huge offer, one we definitely won't match. However, I am sure it is only a one year deal and he can expect a big cut next year. Also interested in how his NFL aspirations play into this. Is BC budgeting based on him missing half the season down south? I love KL, and if that is the offer he should take it, but the numbers won't be the same and it is an overpay in our budget. A big one. Edited January 31, 2022 by Geebrr Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, wbbfan said: That is good logic on paper. But unless you have the ol the rest of the pieces don't much matter. BC is working hard to keep that OL together too... 🤮 wbbfan and Geebrr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Lawler is obviously worth more than you think he is on the open market. He's worth more than even I thought he was too. Lawler was the only 1000 yard receiver last year. He's worth more than Whitehead. Yawn. Like we skirt contracts by getting players off season jobs. totally not the same thing...but whatevs....who are all the guys with these big paying off-season jobs?...that make up for their football pay?...If they working a job outside of football...putting in the time and effort there, and paid for it, its no different than u...me....the tree working multiple jobs.....Standard CFL contract with housing allowance in it is cut and dried....and if a "booster" is paying housing...and that housing money is basically pocket money...yup thats skirting the sms.... GCJenks, Piggy 1 and JCon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 woo! Love it JCon, Stickem, Piggy 1 and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Glad to see Woli. Hope we see a few more this week. Edited January 31, 2022 by rebusrankin Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Lawler is worth a good penny but 250k in CFL money is spent on receivers who've had 2-3 1000 yard seasons in a row. I love Lawler but 1 1000 yard season doesn't equate to Milt Stegall prime money. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Yeah I am a fan of Lawler but Jesus that is stupid money for a receiver. The only logic I can come up with is that BC is just trying to **** with the Bombers. It makes no sense to pay receivers what they're doing. rebusrankin and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Yeah I am a fan of Lawler but Jesus that is stupid money for a receiver. The only logic I can come up with is that BC is just trying to **** with the Bombers. It makes no sense to pay receivers what they're doing. yeah...but if u make that offer...its binding....u got the player....so if u hope a team matches or beats it, and they dont....u have to honor that deal...so its a dangerous ploy if that was their intention....bid the guy up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, Booch said: totally not the same thing...but whatevs....who are all the guys with these big paying off-season jobs?...that make up for their football pay?...If they working a job outside of football...putting in the time and effort there, and paid for it, its no different than u...me....the tree working multiple jobs.....Standard CFL contract with housing allowance in it is cut and dried....and if a "booster" is paying housing...and that housing money is basically pocket money...yup thats skirting the sms.... From what i read in the past Lions alumni and boosters provide cheap rental apartments to the players. Not free but affordable. Toronto, Montreal, Calgary also have similar arrangements with real estate companies. Winnipeg used to as well, not sure if they still do. 9 minutes ago, Booch said: yeah...but if u make that offer...its binding....u got the player....so if u hope a team matches or beats it, and they dont....u have to honor that deal...so its a dangerous ploy if that was their intention....bid the guy up Player has the option to accept the offer after the 48 hr window and its a binding contract. Lions could cut him the next day and terminate but would lose any signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, TBURGESS said: I told you Lawler @ $165K was wrong. $250K seems like an overpay tho. I hope we don't match the offer. We don't necessarily have to match, nor does Lawler have to sign with us if we did. Lawler could stay for less, or even go even if we offered more. One name that might resurface? Bryant Mitchell? I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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