JCon Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Floyd said: Montreal has a bunch of no names on their DL - their OL is a mess too Lokombo was a journeyman until this season Jones has them over performing - no question Absolutely disagree. They're a talented group and I said so before the season began. wbbfan and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Can’t change the fact that Kharu got Vernon Adams on his game when no one else could If he’s a QB friendly coach, he’s already got a lot of guys beat i have to agree Khari is outperforming Osh especially in that he’s playing dual roles - we will see if he sustains it Looking back at it he has had strong success with at the time beleaguered QBs. One of Glenns best seasons after he seemed done in hamilton, Khari coached him (took over as OC that year). Durants career year and ssk grey cup win in 2013. Jonathon jennings big year, yep khari jones. Now Vernon adams too. His offenses are very aggressive. He really seems to be boom or bust, but out side of ssk he hasnt had the most to work with by any means. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, JCon said: Absolutely disagree. They're a talented group and I said so before the season began. Well into the season It was hotly contested with many people sure Vaj and the als were a trash team thatd be lucky to win 1 game. blueandgoldguy, Tracker, Bigblue204 and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Well into the season It was hotly contested with many people sure Vaj and the als were a trash team thatd be lucky to win 1 game. I dont remember that at all. I do remember people saying that if they could put it together they would make some noise. JCon, blueandgoldguy and wbbfan 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I dont remember that at all. I do remember people saying that if they could put it together they would make some noise. Short memory. Go back and look at the MBB power rankings at the start of the season, the other games / als game threads, the 2019 standings prediction thread etc etc 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 And that's not that I'm trying to discredit Jones, hell I was on here begging for him to be hired instead of Lapo back in the day (and lots of people said Khari was a crappy coach at the time time). I'd still take Khari in a heart beat, but Mike O'Shea is a damned good coach too and we'd be fools to let him get away. Now if he chooses to leave on his own so be it, but to give him the boot, that would be dumb. Bigblue204, wbbfan and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, 17to85 said: And that's not that I'm trying to discredit Jones, hell I was on here begging for him to be hired instead of Lapo back in the day (and lots of people said Khari was a crappy coach at the time time). I'd still take Khari in a heart beat, but Mike O'Shea is a damned good coach too and we'd be fools to let him get away. Now if he chooses to leave on his own so be it, but to give him the boot, that would be dumb. agree. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, 17to85 said: And that's not that I'm trying to discredit Jones, hell I was on here begging for him to be hired instead of Lapo back in the day (and lots of people said Khari was a crappy coach at the time time). I'd still take Khari in a heart beat, but Mike O'Shea is a damned good coach too and we'd be fools to let him get away. Now if he chooses to leave on his own so be it, but to give him the boot, that would be dumb. Khari kicked around the league for many years as an O.C. in BC and Hamilton with middling success and was even demoted back to QB coach in Sask. for a stretch under Cortez, so he's no magic bullet solution. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Khari kicked around the league for many years as an O.C. in BC and Hamilton with middling success and was even demoted back to QB coach in Sask. for a stretch under Cortez, so he's no magic bullet solution. Tell that to the Alouette players and fans. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzsax Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 The fact of the matter is... if we were in the East Osh would have had us to at least two GC's by now. We are in the juggernaut of the west and have a much tougher climb. End of story. blue85gold and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, jazzsax said: The fact of the matter is... if we were in the East Osh would have had us to at least two GC's by now. We are in the juggernaut of the west and have a much tougher climb. End of story. The fact of the matter is your statement is pure conjecture. More of a dream than a fact. Calgary is the juggernaught in the West. In 2016 we lost in the playoffs to BC. In 2017 we lost in the playoffs to Edmonton. In 2018, we beat Saskatchewan with their backup QB, then lost to Calgary. That's 1 time in 5 seasons that we lost to the juggernaught team in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: I dont remember that at all. I do remember people saying that if they could put it together they would make some noise. I also remember people here saying Jones HC career would be finished before it started in Montreal. That the Als were a graveyard for head coaches. blueandgoldguy, Bigblue204 and TBURGESS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Khari kicked around the league for many years as an O.C. in BC and Hamilton with middling success and was even demoted back to QB coach in Sask. for a stretch under Cortez, so he's no magic bullet solution. Yeah, agree on that. To a lot of folks Khari was hot garbage as an OC. It seemed his offenses always struggled. Now he's a genius. Vernon Adams was the key. He found in Khari someone who believed in him instead of that disaster of a qb in Pipkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSkunk Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I also remember people here saying Jones HC career would be finished before it started in Montreal. That the Als were a graveyard for head coaches. That was said under the old owners. New era beginning in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) Osh probably is done in Winnipeg. He's 55-51 I think, a bit better than .500. You'd hope for better after six years. So I am OK he he moves on to Toronto or wherever. The question becomes - who will replace him. I don't see Khari leaving MTL, town is too fun. And he's got something good going on there with Joe Mack and that team. I hope the next Bombers HC is not Lapo - been there, done that. What if Bombers took a flyer on someone like Ryan Dinwiddie - who did a great job with Arbuckle and the Stamps QBs. It's time we had someone with real Offensive knowledge calling the shots here. Could be just the ticket if we can keep Streveler on a long-term deal. Edited October 18, 2019 by Doublezero Tracker, J5V and blueandgoldguy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSkunk Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Doublezero said: Osh probably is done in Winnipeg. He's 55-51 I think, a bit better than .500. You'd hope for better after six years. So I am OK he he moves on to Toronto or wherever. The question becomes - who will replace him. I don't see Khari leaving MTL, town is too fun. And he's got something good going on there with Joe Mack and that team. I hope the next Bombers HC is not Lapo - been there, done that. What if Bombers took a flyer on someone like Ryan Dinwiddie - who did a great job with Arbuckle and the Stamps QBs. Could be just the ticket if we can keep Streveler on a long-term deal. Dinwiddie would be considered a rookie head coach right ?...... so would you want the Bombers to be the teacher of another rookie HC .? Another 6 years of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said: Dinwiddie would be considered a rookie head coach right ?...... so would you want the Bombers to be the teacher of another rookie HC .? Another 6 years of giving them the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to see Dinwiddie come in here as an OC along with long time Stamps receiver coach Pete Costanza. Those guys know the Stamps system cold. TBURGESS, blueandgoldguy and rebusrankin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 I like O'Shea. Really do. He has done a lot of good here. He is loyal to a fault and far too inflexible for my liking however. I'd find it refreshing to get some new blood and a fresh young mind in here. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 A lot of insane things have been said in this thread lately, but people wanting yet another rookie HC and thinking that will go well, is a new low.... Ffs. Tracker, Bigblue204, rebusrankin and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Dinwiddie is in his 6th year of coaching in the CFL - that is about twice as much CFL coaching experience as OShea had when he got here. But hey - I just threw the name out there. Who else is out there that isn't going to be a major question mark? Definitely time for someone who knows the offensive side of the game calling the shots IMHO. J5V 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Noeller said: A lot of insane things have been said in this thread lately, but people wanting yet another rookie HC and thinking that will go well, is a new low.... Ffs. Because more of the same would be so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, J5V said: Because more of the same would be so much better. What's wrong with a team that puts up more wins than losses each season? Haven't we all seen enough of the out of contention before Labour Day teams to appreciate what we have here? Noeller and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: What's wrong with a team that puts up more wins than losses each season? Haven't we all seen enough of the out of contention before Labour Day teams to appreciate what we have here? You're overreacting. O'Shea, and/or Lapo and Hall, could very well be gone after this season but that doesn't mean we immediately collapse into chaos and turmoil. Walters has done a decent job of upgrading the talent on this team, although I wish he had found some stud receivers, and a new HC and some new assistants might be a good thing. Some new approaches, different schemes, better roster management, and more flexibility and in-game adjustments to what other teams are doing, might be just the thing to put us over the top. Why be so negative about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, TBURGESS said: It took MOS 3 years to get a playoff game. 4 years to get to 2nd place. 5 years to win a playoff game. Khari inherited a mess this year. Late in the off season. No chance to hire his own coaching staff. Lost his GM too. He got his team in 2nd place year 1. A home playoff game. If he wins it, he's tied with MOS for playoff wins and he has a home playoff win, something that MOS most likely won't do in year 6. yeah well, in those 6 years- MOS would have had a lot more success if we were in the east as well. Edited October 19, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, J5V said: You're overreacting. O'Shea, and/or Lapo and Hall, could very well be gone after this season Some people want to keep Mike, no matter what he does performance wise. The team could go third, lose first game, and there are some people that would still keep him. Edited October 19, 2019 by Mark F Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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