It should be obvious by now that Walters/Oshea don't manage the QB position very well. They are gambling that Nichols bounces back from last season's step backward.  Is Nichols in football shape? Is the knee 100%? Even if it is, is he good enough to get us to the promised land? Seems Walters structured Nichols contract poorly - since it kept us out of the QB FA sweepstakes this year.  But going back even before Nichols, this crew stuck with Drew Willy when it was obvious he was hopeless.  There's a flicker of hope with Streveler in the bullpen but what are the chances of keeping him when he turns FA one year from now? I want to be hopeful but there's this sinking feeling that we are hooped unless we get better production out of the most important position on the football team.

55 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I dont know that its that bad. I feel like atleast 1 guy is gonna emerge from the als, argos, maybe RBs or riders that is at the masoli level. Afl lacked qb talent. The league has some good young arms with a chance to actually start and play now. Gonna suck for a bit for those teams, but long term its great for the league. 

It took Masoli 6 years to "emerge", people are giving new QB's a year or two to prove their worth.

Jennings and Campbell/Elizondo will be interesting...  this is dink and dunk football...  could be either really good for Jennings or the end of his career

Khari seems like a better match with Pipkin than Manziel

McAdoo is a match with no one

Chapdelaine - I don't see him and Franklin having any chemistry...

1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

It took Masoli 6 years to "emerge", people are giving new QB's a year or two to prove their worth.

He has been in the league for 6 years that doesnt mean he has had much of an opportunity for the past 6 years. 

3 hours ago, Floyd said:

Jennings and Campbell/Elizondo will be interesting...  this is dink and dunk football...  could be either really good for Jennings or the end of his career

Khari seems like a better match with Pipkin than Manziel

McAdoo is a match with no one

Chapdelaine - I don't see him and Franklin having any chemistry...

Jennings big struggle has been accuracy.

Pipkin and Manziel are different versions of the same QB, run and chuck.

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Jennings big struggle has been accuracy.

 

Decision making as well. 

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Jennings big struggle has been accuracy.

Pipkin and Manziel are different versions of the same QB, run and chuck.

I saw a graph / photo on Riderfans (yuck) where they showed all of Jennings passes for the season and how many balls were off the mark and how they could of been picked off.   The guy has huge issues with accuracy and the numbers do not look good at all considering he had great receivers to throw at. 

45 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I saw a graph / photo on Riderfans (yuck) where they showed all of Jennings passes for the season and how many balls were off the mark and how they could of been picked off.   The guy has huge issues with accuracy and the numbers do not look good at all considering he had great receivers to throw at. 

I believe that was a Derek Taylor thing. He did some research on "percentage of passes that *should* have been picked off" and Jennings was baaaaaaaaad.... 

If one is a Rider fan, would you not be terrified that you are one play away from having Cody Fajardo as your starting QB?

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

If one is a Rider fan, would you not be terrified that you are one play away from having Cody Fajardo as your starting QB?

He's better than Bridge, so ... yes but ... at least it's not Bridge?

4 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Jennings big struggle has been accuracy.

Pipkin and Manziel are different versions of the same QB, run and chuck.

Hence the 'could be the end' of Jennings...

I think Pipkin can handle the pocket better than Manziel - we'll find out soon enough

32 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I believe that was a Derek Taylor thing. He did some research on "percentage of passes that *should* have been picked off" and Jennings was baaaaaaaaad.... 

Those numbers when not in the Red Zone is crazy!!!

Interesting about the separated shoulder...  wonder if you can bounce back from that

15 hours ago, Mike said:

He's better than Bridge, so ... yes but ... at least it's not Bridge?

I would rather have Bridge with a competent OC.

What do these changes in player status mean, from CFL.ca today:

2019-02-19    WPG    NICHOLS, Matt    QB    I    Eastern Washington    Add To    Active Roster
2019-02-19    WPG    NICHOLS, Matt    QB    I    Eastern Washington    Delete From Active    Free Agent

Edited February 20, 20196 yr by Doublezero

Might mean they changed his contract?

1 minute ago, Rich said:

Might mean they changed his contract?

That was the speculation on TEP yesterday. Now to figure out what changed (money, term, both)...

I thought Dunk reported they added a year to it. 

Esks beat writer tweeted out yesterday that he's getting a raise and possibly an extension. Makes sense based on what the other top guys got in FA... 

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

Esks beat writer tweeted out yesterday that he's getting a raise and possibly an extension. Makes sense based on what the other top guys got in FA... 

Some people are going to lose their s... over this. I hope the Bombers make a big FA signing to distract everyone for a while. 

23 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Esks beat writer tweeted out yesterday that he's getting a raise and possibly an extension. Makes sense based on what the other top guys got in FA... 

Dave Campbell from CHED radio said Nichols contract was "restructured" -  no idea why anyone would assume Nichols got an extra year beyond 2020 or more money beyond the $455,000 he's set to make in 2019.  "Restructured" usually means the opposite. The club goes to Matt and says "We'd like make some revisions your deal ..." Maybe they just decided they don't want to pay him a $225,000 roster bonus next January 15 as they did this year. Or maybe they want to make that bonus contingent on certain performance milestones. And asked him to agree to that. Some intrepid journalist should be digging this out ...

Here's what Dunk said Feb 6 before any of this: https://3downnation.com/2019/02/06/bombers-qb-matt-nichols-set-for-pay-increase-but-bombers-have-an-out/

Edited February 20, 20196 yr by Doublezero

Hard to picture Matt getting more $$$ than we already agreed to give him, and hard to picture the Bombers extending him at any significant cost when the club previously built an out-clause for 2020 into his contract... very intriguing. Want some deets.

I'm guessing he restructured to free up some cap room for this season. Can't see any possible reason why we'd give him a raise when he's got two years left on his contract and is coming off a down year.

On ‎2019‎-‎02‎-‎19 at 1:20 PM, Floyd said:

 

Chapdelaine - I don't see him and Franklin having any chemistry...

My son played for Chaps at SFU. He used a version of his offense adapted for 4 down football. It was an extensive, difficult offense for him & the other qbs to learn. It wasn't that the offense is bad as it's not. It's totally based on creating mismatches on offense with the defense. The problem is the terminology isn't qb friendly as Chaps never was a qb so it is difficult from a qb perspective to learn.  It's more receiver friendly than quarterback. The reads are different if you're a qb. I can only tell you it's quite complicated for a new qb to learn. Again, my son thought the offensive playbook was actually pretty decent but it comes at the qbs from a different perspective. It takes awhile to learn compared to other CFL offenses. Ricky Ray could probably pick it up easier than Franklin.

Edited February 20, 20196 yr by SpeedFlex27

20 hours ago, Noeller said:

Esks beat writer tweeted out yesterday that he's getting a raise and possibly an extension. Makes sense based on what the other top guys got in FA... 

Does it though?... I'm a fan of Nichols... but based on his performance last year... I don't really think a raise would be in line... just cuz Reilly, BLM and Harris got huge raises, that shouldn't really have an effect on someone already under contract... 

As it stands now, re: QBs CFL - 2019 CFL.Staff

BC LIONS

1. Mike Reilly

2. Ricky Lloyd

 

EDMONTON ESKIMOS

1. Trevor Harris

2. Danny O’Brien

3. Jeremiah Briscoe

 

CALGARY STAMPEDERS

1. Bo Levi Mitchell

2. Nick Arbuckle

3. Montell Cozart

 

SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS

1. Zach Collaros

2. David Watford

3. Cody Fajardo

 

WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS

1. Matt Nichols

2. Chris Streveler

3. Bryan Bennett

4. Bryan Schor

 

HAMILTON TIGER-CATS

1. Jeremiah Masoli

2. Dane Evans

3. DeVante Kincade

 

TORONTO ARGONAUTS

1. James Franklin

2. McLeod Bethel-Thompson

3. Dakota Prukop

4. Noah Picton

 

OTTAWA REDBLACKS

T-1. Jonathon Jennings

T-1. Dominique Davis

3. Danny Collins

4. William Arndt

 

MONTREAL ALOUETTES

T-1. Johnny Manziel

T-1. Antonio Pipkin

T-3. Jeff Mathews

T-3. Matthew Shiltz

T-3. Vernon Adams Jr.

6. Hugo Richard