Okay, so the off season officially begins now that the Grey Cup is over. Lots of topics for discussion in the months to come with the Bombers & the League. A new CBA needs to be negotiated sooner rather than later.  Will there be an eventual agreement or a lockout? How much will the salary cap go up? Randy Ambrosie is on record that wants the cap to significantly go up so that is a positive.  Will Bo Levi Mitchell sign with an NFL or perhaps another CFL team? What about Mike Reilly & Trevor Harris who are also free agents? There's a new start up league called the  AAFL & there are legit concerns that it'll draw star CFL players away or hamper free agent signings with CFL teams. Coaching changes in BC & Toronto. The continuing evolving story of the expansion Halifax Schooners & possible exhibition games in Mexico. 

Edited November 27, 20187 yr by SpeedFlex27

3 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Wow, even though it’s not June yet..it’s a bit late for this.

 

🤣

 

5 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

David William Naylor‏Verified account @TSNDaveNaylor 5m5 minutes ago

The @HoustonChron is reporting that @CoachJuneJones is leaving his post as OC with the @Ticats to become head coach of Houston’s XFL franchise. #Ticats #CFL

This seems crazy to me. Jones was just coming into his own as a coach in the cfl, took a step back to open up a job for steinhauer, now he leaves to the XFL? Are they going to play a game before the cfl season ends?

Mind blowing to me.

 

I wonder if the league should have punitive measures in contracts for coaches that do this stuff. I feel like if you quit on your team after the draft/FA you've caused them to harm by not leaving in the normal offseason window.  This is what the 3rd time weve seen this this off season?

Is this figure challengeable?

 

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

🤣

 

This seems crazy to me. Jones was just coming into his own as a coach in the cfl, took a step back to open up a job for steinhauer, now he leaves to the XFL? Are they going to play a game before the cfl season ends?

Mind blowing to me.

 

I wonder if the league should have punitive measures in contracts for coaches that do this stuff. I feel like if you quit on your team after the draft/FA you've caused them to harm by not leaving in the normal offseason window.  This is what the 3rd time weve seen this this off season?

I've seen some comments on twitter complaining about the coach's salary cap being the reason for this.  I seem to remember seeing a story in the off season that said June Jones refused a salary for some reason or other, or maybe donated it all to charity, so I don't think the amount he was being paid really mattered to him.

 

Agreed that it sucks for the league to be losing coaches, especially this late in the off-season.

2 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Is this figure challengeable?

 

If only. 

I feel like its not that high. More like 70% range. But it is worlds better then the era with no challenge. I also think many decisions come up that are really tough calls. A lot of grey area and judgement involved. 

2 minutes ago, Sard said:

I've seen some comments on twitter complaining about the coach's salary cap being the reason for this.  I seem to remember seeing a story in the off season that said June Jones refused a salary for some reason or other, or maybe donated it all to charity, so I don't think the amount he was being paid really mattered to him.

 

Agreed that it sucks for the league to be losing coaches, especially this late in the off-season.

I could see that being the reason why the other jones left. Didnt consider that point. Football ops should have a salary cap imo. And it should be tied to revenue as should the players cap. 

Yeah its gotta be really hard to try and fill a role like that this late. Not to mention if you want to poach another teams coach for a promotion (Ie if they wanted buck to be their OC) then both teams are in a tough spot. 

The salary cap for coaches was BS from day one.  This is the reason why

Whatever screws other teams and not us, I'm fully in favour of...

18 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I could see that being the reason why the other jones left. Didnt consider that point. Football ops should have a salary cap imo. And it should be tied to revenue as should the players cap. 

Yeah its gotta be really hard to try and fill a role like that this late. Not to mention if you want to poach another teams coach for a promotion (Ie if they wanted buck to be their OC) then both teams are in a tough spot. 

Tommy Condell was waiting in the wings, so maybe it's not as bad as it looks.

Jones already was demoted to OC.. Steinhauer took his head coaches job. So Jones left his OC position for a head coaching gig. 

Whats wrong with That? He got a promotion. 

Edited May 13, 20196 yr by Goalie

No tears here. Thought his offense was too easy to defend against. Consistently shut down by quality defenses.

Just now, Zontar said:

No tears here. Thought his offense was too easy to defend against. Consistently shut down by quality defenses.

Condell will run the same exact O. 

35 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

That's a straight up **** move by Jones....even more so then the other Jones. 

Why? June was OC.. He took a head coaching position aka a promotion. I don't see why its so awful. 

7 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Condell will run the same exact O. 

Highly doubt it. Judging by moves Steinauer made he wasn't crazy about it either.

13 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Why? June was OC.. He took a head coaching position aka a promotion. I don't see why its so awful. 

because it's the week of TC......

If the Ti-Cats knew in advance and were ready, then it's not a big deal.  If he did it without warning this close to TC then it would be a chump move, but because it's the Ti-Cats, it's ok. 

Edited May 13, 20196 yr by WBBFanWest

18 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Why? June was OC.. He took a head coaching position aka a promotion. I don't see why its so awful. 

H.C. position in the XFL looks to be fixed at $500,000 USD that's multiple times what he would have been earning as a CFL O.C. or H.C.

11 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

H.C. position in the XFL looks to be fixed at $500,000 USD that's multiple times what he would have been earning as a CFL O.C. or H.C.

And when the XFL folds after 8 games? 

1 minute ago, Bomber_fanaddict said:

And when the XFL folds after 8 games? 

They won't. But its still 500 k. 

June Jones doesn't need money. As someone else mentioned he donated his entire Ticats salary to charity. He spent almost a decade as a NCAA head coach making over a million per season and willingly stepped aside as HC of the Ticats. Highly doubt this is about money.

3 minutes ago, Atomic said:

June Jones doesn't need money. As someone else mentioned he donated his entire Ticats salary to charity. He spent almost a decade as a NCAA head coach making over a million per season and willingly stepped aside as HC of the Ticats. Highly doubt this is about money.

Good to hear that there are still humanitarians out there.

6 minutes ago, Atomic said:

June Jones doesn't need money. As someone else mentioned he donated his entire Ticats salary to charity. He spent almost a decade as a NCAA head coach making over a million per season and willingly stepped aside as HC of the Ticats. Highly doubt this is about money.

Maybe he just wants to donate more to charity...

9 minutes ago, Atomic said:

June Jones doesn't need money. As someone else mentioned he donated his entire Ticats salary to charity. He spent almost a decade as a NCAA head coach making over a million per season and willingly stepped aside as HC of the Ticats. Highly doubt this is about money.

I am not so sure that he was paid over a million a year.  He was never at a marquis program.  There is a huge difference in compensation levels between Ohio State and Hawaii.  That said, he would have made good coin.

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Whatever screws other teams and not us, I'm fully in favour of...

Until it does.  Ottawa, now Hamilton.  These are coordinator positions too; positional coaches.

The coaches' salary cap does need to be looked at if we don't want to continue to see this.  This will impact the onfield product quickly.

They can't do anything until the players sign their collective agreement though.

Junes was just there to mentor Condell until the took over next season... nothing to see here.

2 hours ago, MC said:

I am not so sure that he was paid over a million a year.  He was never at a marquis program.  There is a huge difference in compensation levels between Ohio State and Hawaii.  That said, he would have made good coin.

I am not talking about Hawaii, I'm talking about SMU. They play in the FBS and their current head coach makes over 2 million per season.