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👁‍🗨well, if you go by stats..the Bombers are in for a tough time in Regina.. Ugly, ugly stats

Chris Jones is 46-35 as a HC

Mike O’Shea is 40-42

Sask is 35-19 over Wpg in the Labour Day Classic.

29 of those games have been decided only in the last 3 minutes.

The meetings since 2002 have generally not been all that close - only 5 of the last 16 games were decided in the last 3:00 - Saskatchewan comes into the game with a better record (5-4 vs 5-5) than Winnipeg for the first time since 2014

- QBs: Saskatchewan will start their 4th straight different QB in the Classic, with Zach Collaros; Matt Nichols will start his 3rd in a row  (Nichols started once for Edmonton vs Calgary and threw for 203 yards); Matt Nichols has yet to be held under 300 passing yards; he has 341 & 364 yards in his two Winnipeg LDW starts (16-17)  (Nichols started once for Edmonton vs Calgary and threw for 203 yards)

- Zach Collaros has also yet to be held under 300 passing yards in an LDW game; his three 300+ games were with Hamilton

- Zach Collaros becomes the 38th player to start a Labour Day Weekend game for the Riders; Nichols is starter #39 for Winnipeg

- Winnipeg snapped a Saskatchewan 11-game win streak in their 2016 LD Weekend meeting but dropped to 1 win in 13 last year

- The Riders have outgained Winnipeg in the last 7 LDW meetings by over 100 yards per game (Avg: 388 to 275)

Breaking Down Who Wins LDW Classic: There have been 54 previous games in this LD matchup and here is how it has broken down based on which club came into the game with a better record. The Bombers are 5-5 this year compared to the Riders at 5-4.

WPG came in with better record: 29 times (Wins: SSK 18, WPG 11)

SSK came in with better record: 15 times (Wins: SSK 11, WPG 4) Note: Teams came in with even records 10 times

As the Riders were seeking in 2017, the underdog has often won this LD Weekend matchup. The Bombers have only 4 upset wins as underdogs i.e. the team lower in the standings heading in.

___________________________________________________________________________________________ Other Team Notes – Winnipeg at Saskatchewan:

- Charleston Hughes: Leads the CFL with 12 Sacks (7 more than any other player) and comes into this game with a streak of 7 straight games with at least one. That is the longest consecutive games streak in his career, his previous long run was set at 6 in a row from Jun 28/14 to Aug 9/14.

- Most consecutive games with a QB Sack: Over the last 25 years, here are the longest streaks with at least one QB Sack. Charleston Hughes has tied the most by any Saskatchewan player and is 3 short of the highest on record since 1994

👁‍🗨Joe Montford and Philip Hunt are the two players ahead of Hughes, each with 10 game streaks.

- Sam Hurl 100 GP/ U of Calgary: Hurl will suit up this week for CFL game #100 in his career and it will be start #56. He is a prominent member of a remarkable 99 players that have come to the CFL from the Dinos - of those 99 individuals Hurl will become the 20th player of this group to make it to 100 career regular season games.

- Nichols 9-3 .750 coming off a loss: Despite a second straight loss last week, Matt Nichols has had a remarkable run since July 2016 in the next start after a Blue Bombers loss as he will be doing again this week. In his last 12 starts after a Winnipeg defeat the club has gone 9-3 for a .750 winning %.

- Avoiding 3 losses in a row: The Bombers have not lost 3 games in a row in the same season since the final three weeks of 2015. They have gone a span of 46 games with just 5 streaks of 2 defeats in a row and none longer than that.

5 of the last 6: The Riders have beaten Winnipeg just once in the last 6 games. This is the best Bombers' 6-game run against their Saskatchewan rivals in the last 13 years.

Opponents' 502 net yards: The Bombers yielded just 325 net yards per game over their first 8 contests and through Week #9 ranked #4 in the CFL. Since then, they have given up 502 yards per game (493 & 511), the highest in the CFL since Week #9. The main area where this has come is on 1st down plays. First 8 games: 6.3 yards per play, Gm #9-10: 8.3 yards per play.

Riders Sacks Allowed: Saskatchewan allowed 9 Sacks in their first 4 games. Since then in 5 games they have yielded just 3. Expect some 2-&-Outs: The Riders are #1 forcing opponents 62 times into a 2-&-Out. Winnipeg is #3 with 53 forced 2-&-Outs.

- Jovon Johnson: Sat out last week's game and that snapped his consecutive games played streak at 73 in a row.

Andrew Harris: Was held to just 13 yards rushing last week on 7 carries. That tied his lowest yardage since Oct 7/15 vs EDM.

- Josh Bartel Inside the 10: Bartel has 6 punts pinning opponents inside the 10-yard line this year, one off the CFL lead. He is #2 overall with 60 since 2012. Winnipeg's Justin Medlock in many less games is #3 since 2012 with 36 including 7 in 2018.

- Offensive & Defensive TD Same Game: The Riders' Nick Marshall scored a touchdown on offence and defence in the same game two weeks ago with a 3-yard rush and a 67-yard INT return. That specific Offence/Defence TD pair had not occurred since Tyrone Walls for Edmonton on September 4, 1972 a span of 46 years. There have been only 4 such pure occurrences in the last 50 years. Last week, Marshall scored another offensive TD on a short run and actually leads the club in touchdowns with 4.

The nearest since 1972 was Milt Stegall on July 15, 1999 who caught a 37-yard TD pass from Kerwin Bell and returned a blocked punt/fumble 52 yards for a score.

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Mr Dee

Just now, Goalie said:

They gave up 17 points all game.. Nichols basically threw a pick 6 and they had a punt return TD. 

Are you related to Hall? The yoga you'll do to defend that **** 2nd half (per usual from our D) is odd.

Just now, Rod Black said:

There once was a guy a couple thousand years ago that missed on his picks as well. Ended up he was killed by his choice. 

Petermann continues to waste away on the bench.  Mind boggling. Too many Coaches Pets on this team. 

1 minute ago, White Out said:

Are you related to Hall? The yoga you'll do to defend that **** 2nd half (per usual from our D) is odd.

No. I just think its ridiculous to **** on the D when they gave up 17 points. Our O was awful. Our QB is the real problem.. Not a D who keeps us in it cuz outside of Harris our O doesn't do ****. 

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Goalie

here we go with "a couple of plays" b.s. post game interview.

don't bother saying that anymore.

2 minutes ago, Mark F said:

are people posting over .08?

 

No. Nope. Nah. Lol, where did you get an idea like that? What do you do during a bomber game? 

Then we have MOS lamenting the loss of Hurl three quarters of a season after he left.  I don't get our HC. Never have & never will. 

Hall's defence gave us an opportunity to win the game.  It was our offence who couldn't convert opportunities in to majors. 

I was satisfied with the defence today.

2 minutes ago, Rod Black said:

No. Nope. Nah. Lol, where did you get an idea like that? What do you do during a bomber game? 

Don't drink alcohol, or smoke dope cause, I need to concentrate, so I can help others with my anal-ysis.

I have moved on from being pissed off about the team, so that's one thing. call me a bandwagonner, but I don't expect much anymore.

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Mark F

4 minutes ago, Captain Blue said:

We were within one score despite doing almost nothing via the pass game all day. 

Nichols put us in a hole early. Defense kept us in the game and Nichols and the offense managed to get and carry the lead for a while - and then that was about it for the offensive production for the day.

The defense isn't perfect, but unless you expect them to post zeroes across the board its going to be difficult to win games. "2nd half collapse" would seem to give them more blame, when in reality if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have been in the game at all. In the first, third and fourth quarter today, the offense managed 9 points (3 x 3). Not all of that is on Nichols, obviously, but its pretty clear that he is currently a major issue. 

 

 

The reality of this team is that the D is fine until the offense completely shuts down and goes 2 and out repeatedly and then it craters.  Even tonight the O went 3 2 and outs in a row in the 4th Q and the D got them back on the field twice, Rider TD on the 3rd drive.  O has to do something.  Even put together 3-4 first downs and flip field position.  D had two big stops on the Riders deep in their end in the second half and we only got FG's out of those.  Need at least one TD, hopefully 2.  I don't know how the D gets blamed for this.  Opposing offenses are going to make some plays, it's the bloody CFL.  There aren't many 10-7 games up here.

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by JuranBoldenRules

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

No. I just think its ridiculous to **** on the D when they gave up 17 points. 

And you want to blame Nichols who should have built up a bigger lead but his receivers couldn't hang on to their passes to save their lives.

1 minute ago, White Out said:

And you want to blame Nichols who should have built up a bigger lead but his receivers couldn't hang on to their passes to save their lives.

14 for 26 for 166 yards, 1td, 2ints and 67 yards passing in the second half and you're defending Matty Iceberg? You would have had difficulties winning a CFL game in the 1950s with those kind of passing stats.

3 minutes ago, White Out said:

And you want to blame Nichols who should have built up a bigger lead but his receivers couldn't hang on to their passes to save their lives.

Well when the QB throws interceptions and basically a pick 6 and completes 50 percent of his passes and touches the ball every O drive.. Yup. Under 200 again? But its always the D right.. Pretty obvious the QB is the issue here. 

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Goalie

1 minute ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

The reality of this team is that the D is fine until the offense completely shuts down and goes 2 and out repeatedly and then it craters.  Even tonight the O went 3 2 and outs in a row and the D got them back on the field twice, Rider TD on the 3rd drive.  O has to do something.  Even put together 3-4 first downs and flip field position.  D had two big stops on the Riders deep in their end in the second half and we only got FG's out of those.  Need at least one TD, hopefully 2.  I don't know how the D gets blamed for this.  Opposing offenses are going to make some plays, it's the bloody CFL.  There aren't many 10-7 games up here.

Completely agree with all of it. This defense isn't amazing by any means, but they're containing teams at a decent rate, until they reach a breaking point. I don't think its a coincidence that break point is consistently after the offense fails on several drives.

All of the O'Shea apologists will start coming out of the woodwork now BECAUSE...after all we have the best coach a player could want...There'll be no success on the field BUT hey the players luv him...That'll get you sweet bippy in the end....We're looking for a Cup...Really feel sorry for the fans who give everything to this club...including their cash....and the result is an other dead end

nobody, no matter how much they know, will persuade me that the Bomber's secondary is any good. That play in the endzone, where the Bomber Defender, was it 36 ran straight into the receiver waving his arms, was absolutely laughably bad. 

gave them the ball on the one. basically handed them the game with that play.

As far as I can see these there are about two three players on the entire team, that can play for a whole game.

Right now, The team smells, from top to bottom.

 

Edited September 2, 20187 yr by Mark F

Just now, Goalie said:

Well when the QB throws interceptions and basically a pick 6 and completes 50 percent of his passes and touches the ball every O drive.. Yup. Under 200 again? 

ok lets cool the jets about that late 4th quarter pick. the 1st one is on the receiver who volleyball tipped it to the Riders.

He had a bad game, no doubt. I also don't doubt if the receivers did their jobs we would be a in different place. I'm willing to concede Nichols had a game. But the Nichols hate club is trying to pretend the D was good. I won't abide it.

Streveler can atleast run. Matt is scared to get hit.. Hes mentally done. 

Just now, White Out said:

ok lets cool the jets about that late 4th quarter pick. the 1st one is on the receiver who volleyball tipped it to the Riders.

He had a bad game, no doubt. I also don't doubt if the receivers did their jobs we would be a in different place. I'm willing to concede Nichols had a game. But the Nichols hate club is trying to pretend the D was good. I won't abide it.

Nobody hates Nichols. Ffs drama queen much? Hes been bad for a year now tho. About time to accept it. 

1 minute ago, White Out said:

ok lets cool the jets about that late 4th quarter pick. the 1st one is on the receiver who volleyball tipped it to the Riders.

He had a bad game, no doubt. I also don't doubt if the receivers did their jobs we would be a in different place. I'm willing to concede Nichols had a game. But the Nichols hate club is trying to pretend the D was good. I won't abide it.

By no means is this loss all on Nichols, but that's two games in a row where he's had the opportunity to drive the field - and has thrown a backbreaking interception instead.

so goalie, what do you think about Matt? 

I blame this on the entire team. They played well in the first half. Both sides of the ball failed in the second half. Yeah I can **** on the defence because they allowed the points when they needed to stand strong. 

2 minutes ago, White Out said:

ok lets cool the jets about that late 4th quarter pick. the 1st one is on the receiver who volleyball tipped it to the Riders.

He had a bad game, no doubt. I also don't doubt if the receivers did their jobs we would be a in different place. I'm willing to concede Nichols had a game. But the Nichols hate club is trying to pretend the D was good. I won't abide it.

 Nichols threw too high on that first pick.

Just now, NorthernSkunk said:

 Nichols threw too high on that first pick.

So what? Receiver got his hands on it and volleyed it to the D 

1 minute ago, NorthernSkunk said:

 Nichols threw too high on that first pick.

And in to clear double coverage...

2 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

By no means is this loss all on Nichols, but that's two games in a row where he's had the opportunity to drive the field - and has thrown a backbreaking interception instead.

Or he throws it too high...or he waits too long then throws it out of bounds....or he throws it behind the reciever.....or he throws it into the turf short of the receiver.....etc etc