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Game Day Thread - Bombers @ Argos

The Bombers O is fine - Let's see if the D shows up ... it was just the opposite last week

Trestman's team has not exactly looked like defending Grey Cup Champions ... maybe they lost their horseshoes

Lots of weapons on both sides, O and D

The difference? Likely QB performance ... we will see

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3 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Bit of both?  The few times he got his hands on the ball he lost yards.  Bad play calling plus Winnipeg defenders ready for him all game long.

Ya I agree, D was great. Can't believe how little Trestman uses the run though, especially when he's got two import backs dressed and a kinda thin receiving corps.  Bombers never really had a lead so crazy for the amount of time left that they had to abandon the run completely, although the Bombers played it well the 4 times they ran before garbage time.

3-3. Could easily be 5-1. Not sure what to think of the year so far.

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2 hours ago, White Out said:

Hopefully second half goes well and the usual suspects can stfu about Nichols for at least a couple of weeks 

I don’t get it. Yesterday, the Bombers are the worst team in the West. Today, Nichols’ critics better shut up. I guess Nichols is what’s keeping this team afloat to you. 

Look, today Nichols was fine. It could even be argued he was good. But the Argos defence is pitiful and he was awful the previous two weeks. Let’s see if can avoid a two bad game, one good game pace. 

Also, whether it’s his fault or not, Wilder is another in a long line of rookie year wonders, exalted as the greatest by TSN who will underwhelm for the rest of his career. 

Very quietly, this Bomber defense has improved a lot. Game plan compared to that Hamilton game has shifted now too. We are putting so much more emphasis on 4-man rushes, sinking our secondary into coverage and letting them play. Bighill and JSK are still really active against both the run and pass. And then when we do blitz it has a much bigger impact. I love it. Richie Hall deserves some love for that. Hope we can keep it going.

Offense was pretty darn good again today too. It sure seemed like they wanted to avoid the mistake of underutilizing Harris. Good outing for most. 

Three turnovers leading to so many quick points was unfortunate. Hilarious in my opinion to blame coaching when those guys are very reliable and still had good games too (Fogg, Harris, Demski).

Winning back to backs is really difficult, but this game gave me quite a lot of hope.

3 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

I don’t get it. Yesterday, the Bombers are the worst team in the West. Today, Nichols’ critics better shut up. I guess Nichols is what’s keeping this team afloat to you. 

Look, today Nichols was fine. It could even be argued he was good. But the Argos defence is pitiful and he was awful the previous two weeks. Let’s see if can avoid a two bad game, one good game pace. 

The Bombers were in real peril of being the worst team in the West. As it turns out BC blew the game and we dominated Toronto. The comment was about the standings and nothing more. 

I think Nichols is the 2nd or 3rd best qb in the league and I get highly annoyed when I see people trying to chase him out of town. We've wandered the desert long enough without a real qb. 

I'm so mad at TSN... PVR recorded MLS soccer for the first half....  does anyone have a link or source where I can watch the first half??

 

What I saw in the 2nd half was a terrible Franklin,  great pressure up front by our d-line and apparently Bowman isn't playing anymore for us???

I don't understand why people are mad at coaches for players fumbling that's all on the player??

My only gripe is why wasn't LaFrance and Streveler in the game for the last 2 drives?

10 minutes ago, White Out said:

The Bombers were in real peril of being the worst team in the West. As it turns out BC blew the game and we dominated Toronto. The comment was about the standings and nothing more. 

I think Nichols is the 2nd or 3rd best qb in the league and I get highly annoyed when I see people trying to chase him out of town. We've wandered the desert long enough without a real qb. 

Has anyone actually tried to chase Nichols out of town? He has been criticized the last couple games (rightly so). 

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

I'm so mad at TSN... PVR recorded MLS soccer for the first half....  does anyone have a link or source where I can watch the first half??

 

What I saw in the 2nd half was a terrible Franklin,  great pressure up front by our d-line and apparently Bowman isn't playing anymore for us???

I don't understand why people are mad at coaches for players fumbling that's all on the player??

My only gripe is why wasn't LaFrance and Streveler in the game for the last 2 drives?

LaFrance wasn't dressed.  But yeah, Augustine and Streves should have been in there, don't understand it.

And yeah TSN screwed me too!  Jerks!  Why show that soccer garbage on TSN1??

Is it too early to call Franklin a bust?

Think this was his third game. 

For a guy that's been in the league for three years or so, he doesn't look very good.

And he seems to be afraid to get hit. about to get hit by Poop, I think, and he just chucked it and dove.

Streveler in year one of his career. And he's already better than franklin.

 

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Franklin looked like Dominque Davis last year - just completely lost.

Franklin was under fire...  however late in the game he had some time and a guy deep and he tossed it 10 yards out in the stands...   his last INT was also a terrible throw into double coverage and way way short of his target.   

I'd be concerned as an Argos fan...

1 minute ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Franklin looked like Dominque Davis last year - just completely lost.

Plays safe. Doesn't look to have any fire to him at all

Credit to the Bombers' D-line for pressuring him pretty constantly today. They also shut down Wilder, Jr. in spectacular fashion.

1 minute ago, White Out said:

The Bombers were in real peril of being the worst team in the West. As it turns out BC blew the game and we dominated Toronto. The comment was about the standings and nothing more. 

I think Nichols is the 2nd or 3rd best qb in the league and I get highly annoyed when I see people trying to chase him out of town. We've wandered the desert long enough without a real qb. 

He’s not better than Mitchell by any stretch and him being the third best QB in the league is more an indictment on the state of QBing in the CFL because Harris isn’t good either. 

Wilder is a long ways a way from getting a shot in the NFL, to slow to hit the hole and not nimble enough to elude anyone, he won't be running anyone over in that league, he should concentrate on trying to keep a career in the CFL.

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Wilder is a long ways a way from getting a shot in the NFL, to slow to hit the hole and not nimble enough to elude anyone, he won't be running anyone over in that league, he should concentrate on trying to keep a career in the CFL.

last year he was playing to impress NFL scouts, now he just looks butt-hurt that he is stuck in Canada.

1 hour ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

3-3. Could easily be 5-1. Not sure what to think of the year so far.

Thanks god we are 3-3, cuz we are certainly not playing like a 5-1 team

It is amazing what this defence can do when Hall resists his urge to blitz and lets this spectacular d-line get pressure by itself. 

35 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Is it too early to call Franklin a bust?

Think this was his third game. 

For a guy that's been in the league for three years or so, he doesn't look very good.

And he seems to be afraid to get hit. about to get hit by Poop, I think, and he just chucked it and dove.

Streveler in year one of his career. And he's already better than franklin.

 

To be fair- Streveler is not your normal rookie back up QB. 

 

But yeah, Franklin looks 

 

Less this:

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more this:

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Streveler was warming up halfway through the 4th quarter... and then Demski gifted the Argos with a fumble return TD to put them back to two possessions behind.

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Ridiculous auto-screw up spelling function on my phone

55 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

He’s not better than Mitchell by any stretch and him being the third best QB in the league is more an indictment on the state of QBing in the CFL because Harris isn’t good either. 

It's actually pretty sad right now.  There's 3 established starters in the league IMO.  Mitchell, Reilly, Nichols.  Lulay can play but for how many games?  Harris is a mess, Masoli is kind of on the fringe, Montreal has no one, Saskatchewan has no one, and Franklin needs work.

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