Hamilton destroyed us  with their double tight end formation ... we had no answers. No reactions. No adjustments.

Do you think BC will go to the same double tight? Do you think MOS is going to do something after watching the film?

Will LAPO take the training wheels off Streveler and allow him to improvise?

We will beat BC at home and away.

Play Harris at CB.

1 hour ago, BigBlue said:

Hamilton destroyed us  with their double tight end formation ... we had no answers. No reactions. No adjustments.

Do you think BC will go to the same double tight? Do you think MOS is going to do something after watching the film?

Will LAPO take the training wheels off Streveler and allow him to improvise?

Bc is coming off a high scoring loss. I expect us to win this game. But bc will make big plays. Some thing along the lines of 38-30. Though I think the score will flatter them. I see us dominating TOP and line play. 

The lions aren’t very good. Will be a good game. 

Both your losses are to solid teams so far, especially Hamilton. As long as Streveler is on his A-game, I think it'll be a cushioned victory.

I have to be the pessimist here. If they can’t even make adjustments to an obviously inept defensive game plan at halftime, I have no reason to believe they’ll beat B.C. 

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

I have to be the pessimist here. If they can’t even make adjustments to an obviously inept defensive game plan at halftime, I have no reason to believe they’ll beat B.C. 

Let me join you Mark, without Nichols I predict we will lose as well. Our D is so putrid we likely give Jennings the boost in confidence he needs to not only beat us, but, resurrect his season.

I actually hope other teams put 40+ on our straigh to labour day and we fire Hall to save the season.

Hamilton might be the best team in the CFL right now.  You need a starting qb who’s capable of going toe to toe with Masoli to beat them.   I don’t see BC as being at all in the class.  Should at the very least be a close game if not a convincing bombers win even without Nichols.

Don't know what to expect with B.C., but they are beatable. If I was B.C. I would do the same thing as Hamilton did...maximum protection, short passes all day. No reason to think we will adjust.

I think we have the players on D to compete, but will they be given the ability to do so?

B.C. offense likes to go deep, so that might play to our strengths.

13 minutes ago, blueingreenland said:

 

B.C. offense likes to go deep, so that might play to our strengths.

Safety help over the top - yes sir. 

I think we still win. I wish O'shea wasnt so loyal to a fault when it comes to his players and assistants. But its the way he is and he won't change. Hall is here till the offseason at the earliest. Its why his players love him....

Bomber DBs will start jumping routes again - only way to win depends on half ignoring hall

lapo needs to call a good game

They'll lose. They always lose on my birthday.

8 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

They'll lose. They always lose on my birthday.

Well at least we will know who to blame.

It's a couple of tough games in a row. BC hasn't looked very good this year, but they can rush the passer, complete some deep balls and they need a win against a western team to stay in the running. We've looked better than I expected with a raw rookie QB, but our defense has been leaking like a sieve. I'm expecting a split.

Any team that can just chuck the ball up, is a threat.....against our pass defense.

At least the BC protection is lacking, that does benefit our defense. Plus Jennings can always decide to just throw the game away at a moments notice. 

48 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

At least the BC protection is lacking, that does benefit our defense. Plus Jennings can always decide to just throw the game away at a moments notice. 

I think that's going to make all the difference in the world, BC will not be continually running max. protection and Jennings is nowhere near as efficient as Masoli.  June Jones should be congratulated, he's brought back an outdated offensive plan and is kicking butt with it.

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3 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

I think that's going to make all the difference in the world, BC will not be continually running max. protection and Jennings is nowhere near as efficient as Masoli.  June Jones should be congratulated, he's brought back an outdated offensive plan and is kicking butt with it.

Trestman did the same thing to revive Calvillo’s career. I think teams will do it until the Bombers show an inclination to adjust. 

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Edited July 2, 20187 yr by Mark F

15 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Trestman did the same thing to revive Calvillo’s career. I think teams will do it until the Bombers show an inclination to adjust. 

The offence has to be built around the concept, they can't just switch to that style of D like flicking a switch.  I've been waiting for a dog's age for the pendulum to swing back the other way and bring back a more balanced attack, maybe old June will prove it's a worthy pursuit.  No more empty backfields!

It's one of those games I feel we can win, but I'm also feeling like the pressure is on our offense to keep carrying the load because Richie Hall is such a dumbass on the other side.  He completely relies on other QBs getting greedy and forcing throws which certainly can happen with Jennings.  But if he's not calling press man coverage and Jennings is content to take dump off throws, it's going to be a long night.

2 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

The offence has to be built around the concept, they can't just switch to that style of D like flicking a switch.  I've been waiting for a dog's age for the pendulum to swing back the other way and bring back a more balanced attack, maybe old June will prove it's a worthy pursuit.  No more empty backfields!

True - the full max protect requires a QB who can throw with pin point accuracy on a consistent basis. 

However, taking 5 to 7 yard dump offs when a D is never in press coverage, is a relatively easy adjustment. 

20 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

Hamilton might be the best team in the CFL right now.  You need a starting qb who’s capable of going toe to toe with Masoli to beat them.   I don’t see BC as being at all in the class.  Should at the very least be a close game if not a convincing bombers win even without Nichols.

best team in the east hands down. Still I wouldnt put them no1 or no2 in the west. And by LD I dont think theyd be no3 either. But as we have seen many many times in the play offs the team from the east still has a good chance at winning the cup. 

5 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

True - the full max protect requires a QB who can throw with pin point accuracy on a consistent basis. 

However, taking 5 to 7 yard dump offs when a D is never in press coverage, is a relatively easy adjustment. 

Scheme changes like this, that drastically go against the league meta always take a bit of time to crack. I remember when the Als used to play cover 0 as a base teams trying every thing to beat it. At first every one tried playing double tight heavy sets. max protection. And it didnt work. What eventually killed the als cover zero days was extreme spread offenses. 

The harris big run draw play that was called back, screen passes and quick high percentage tosses. This is kind of the opposite.

Hamilton goes max protect and we tried out blitzing them. But the max pro is what they practice and prepare to run. We are a low efficiency blitzing team. Our weakness against their strength. I think the way teams will crack the tigernaughts offensive scheme is by having the front 7 all on the line, then dropping guys back into coverage. Sending 3 or 4 guys. using twists, dropping ends and sending Lbers, and playing tight to the side lines. Force the wrs inside to the sea of Lbers, Hbs, and saftey. 

Make masoli read the defense, find the right route and make the right toss. The threat of pressure forces him to have to process his reads quickly with out actually pressuring him with sending rushers. If we had switched to that type of defense, which plays into the hall system, we would have beaten hamilton. A team designed around pressure and sending guys sure stick to your system.