Training camp is over .... adjustments have been made  and its time for the opening kickoff

Anybody change their minds on how preseason changed their expectations for this year .... Montreal thrashing Ottawa changed mine .... cutting Willy raise my hopes for the Argos .... Edmonton looks stronger than I first thought and Regina even worse

For the first time in years I am forecasting Winnipeg finishes first in the league  .. just an optimistic hunch .... I forecast these final standings:

Winnipeg

Calgary

Vancouver

Edmonton

Ottawa

Montreal

Toronto

Hamilton

Regina

 

 

 

 

 

How dumb do you have to be not to realize the terms of the contract?

10 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

How dumb do you have to be not to realize the terms of the contract?

Rider dumb.

 

So there were some swing moments last year where Toronto and Montreal became part of the conversation of "biggest joke in the league".   For a time, those two did enough questionable things that the Riders firm firm grasp on that title had just a little doubt.

Even if it was for a moment, we were so wrong to doubt Chris Jones.  That team is hands-down the laughing stock of the CFL.

21 minutes ago, Mike said:

I wouldn't doubt it was orchestrated by Murphy.

Oh, I'm sure he played a big part. But Jonesy is still the GM and I'd have to think he made the final call. Jones seems like a gullible dummy where his GM prowess is concerned.

35 minutes ago, Mike said:

I wouldn't doubt it was orchestrated by Murphy.

Remember when he organized the signing of Pacman Jones for us so that Pacman could go online and stream to fans high as a kite talking about how he was going to play corner, receiver, kick returner, punt returner and score 4 touchdowns a game?

 

You forgot to mentioned that he was stoked about signing in the IFL... or something that definitely wasn't CFL...

30 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Oddly enough he's had a pretty good NFL career. The fact that was 8  years ago and he's still in the NFL. No doubt in my mind he would be a productive player. His speed was/is something else. Not like Trent Richardson who's a fat over weight running back who's skill set wouldn't even be suited for the CFL 

Pacman has actually had a very good career, despite his continued off-field issues... Richardson, many will forget, actually had a very good rookie season... I don't care to look up the stats but I think he may have had 1000 yard behind a very good Cleveland O-line*...

*another fun fact that many forget, Cleveland had one of the league's best o-line for many years... if only they could have upgraded their QB, receivers, running backs, full backs, D-line, linebackers, corners, safeties and coaching staff... they might have had a pretty good team...

3 minutes ago, bearpants said:

You forgot to mentioned that he was stoked about signing in the IFL... or something that definitely wasn't CFL...

Pacman has actually had a very good career, despite his continued off-field issues... Richardson, many will forget, actually had a very good rookie season... I don't care to look up the stats but I think he may have had 1000 yard behind a very good Cleveland O-line*...

*another fun fact that many forget, Cleveland had one of the league's best o-line for many years... if only they could have upgraded their QB, receivers, running backs, full backs, D-line, linebackers, corners, safeties and coaching staff... they might have had a pretty good team...

He had an okay rookie year. 960 yards with a 3.6 YPC I'm sorry but another under 4.5 shouldn't be congratulated. They simply chose to give him the ball time and time again. His career YPC is an  abysmal 3.3 he simply can't read the right hole and when you have terrible awareness like that it's next to impossible to be taught. There's a reason why he was out of the league within 4 years despite being a third overall draft pick..  

Richardson was a bust, start to finish, despite having an great O-Line to play behind. What a disaster that pick was for Cleveland. At least, they got a first-rounder back when they traded him to the Colts.

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

Richardson was a bust, start to finish, despite having an great O-Line to play behind. What a disaster that pick was for Cleveland. At least, they got a first-rounder back when they traded him to the Colts.

And wasted it traded up for Johnny Football.

Just now, sweep the leg said:

And wasted it traded up for Johnny Football.

Yeah, but it's Cleveland. You knew they were going to waste the pick on a terrible QB.

2 hours ago, Mike said:

I don't care if Richardson was the nicest guy on the planet.

He was the 3rd overall pick in the NFL Draft and washed out after 3 seasons. He is *that* bad.

I remember when the Browns drafted Richardson, Jim Brown just ripped the organization about the pick. Turns out that he was right. Afterwards, NFL teams actually stopped drafting running backs in the first two or 3 rounds because he was such a bust. Until Ezekiel Elliott by the Cowboys last season. 

28 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

He had an okay rookie year. 960 yards with a 3.6 YPC I'm sorry but another under 4.5 shouldn't be congratulated. They simply chose to give him the ball time and time again. His career YPC is an  abysmal 3.3 he simply can't read the right hole and when you have terrible awareness like that it's next to impossible to be taught. There's a reason why he was out of the league within 4 years despite being a third overall draft pick..  

I never said he wasn't a bust... I just said he had a good rookie season... the numbers don't tell the whole story... I remember he had decent vision and amazing power... then it all just went away the next year...

Trent clearly watched this and changed his mind.

 

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I remember when the Browns drafted Richardson, Jim Brown just ripped the organization about the pick. Turns out that he was right. Afterwards, NFL teams actually stopped drafting running backs in the first two or 3 rounds because he was such a bust. Until Ezekiel Elliott by the Cowboys last season. 

The Rams actually "reset" the RB draft market the year before by taking Todd Gurley 10th overall... and Melvin Gordon went 15 or 16 to San Diego that same year...

1 minute ago, bearpants said:

I never said he wasn't a bust... I just said he had a good rookie season... the numbers don't tell the whole story... I remember he had decent vision and amazing power... then it all just went away the next year...

Look who he was playing for. Things didn't improve in Indy. 

Just now, bearpants said:

The Rams actually "reset" the RB draft market the year before by taking Todd Gurley 10th overall... and Melvin Gordon went 15 or 16 to San Diego that same year...

But he killed the market for any running back that came after him until then.  

6 hours ago, Marshall said:

According to Wikipedia: On February 16, 2017, Richardson was arrested on third-degree domestic violence charges in Hoover, Alabama.^[62]

Jones is particular about fit

I'm not sure I want to explore that issue further ...

Marshall and Lafrance who isnt being used.  Makes no sense. 

Jones sure likes those "intangibles"

24 minutes ago, do or die said:

Jones sure likes those "intangibles"

He's going to use him on the d-line

6 hours ago, Mike said:

I wouldn't doubt it was orchestrated by Murphy.

Remember when he organized the signing of Pacman Jones for us so that Pacman could go online and stream to fans high as a kite talking about how he was going to play corner, receiver, kick returner, punt returner and score 4 touchdowns a game?

 

And he was going to do that all at the same time.

8 hours ago, Mike said:

I wouldn't doubt it was orchestrated by Murphy.

Remember when he organized the signing of Pacman Jones for us so that Pacman could go online and stream to fans high as a kite talking about how he was going to play corner, receiver, kick returner, punt returner and score 4 touchdowns a game?

 

yes I remember that.  Sigh...

8 hours ago, bearpants said:

You forgot to mentioned that he was stoked about signing in the IFL... or something that definitely wasn't CFL...

 

UFL

15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

But he killed the market for any running back that came after him until then.  

Yeah, we're agreeing on the same point... I just noted that drafted RBs early "re-started" in the 2015 draft with Gurley and Gordon, not 2016 with Elliot...

This is fantastic.

14 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

UFL

LFL