I didn't think we had a thread for this. 

Is Trudeau this out of touch or does he just not care?

 

6 hours ago, Mark F said:

Problem is, would they leave? 

That's a definite consideration, probably not, they're going to come for a visit and stay sooner or later.... 

4 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-19-pandemic-restrictions-1.6347862

Hey, everyone! The pandemic is over!

New pose for the "Golden Boy"?

2 hours ago, the watcher said:

Kind of crazy that Ford seems to be a voice of reason ( sometimes ) in all of this.

 

"In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"

NSFW: Pretty interesting video surfacing from Pat King, one of the lead organizers of the occupation. He compares indigenous protests to "what would happen if" yellow vests decided to protest and block infrastructure and trade. He tries to incite violence against indigenous protestors and warns about shelves being bare because of their protests. I can't think of a strong enough superlative to show my disdain for this.

 

Oh - my convoy supporter relatives are busy trying diminish Pat King's role in all this. He's 'just a guy on the streets' who's 'making some comments.' 

I looks like to today is the beginning of the end...

...now they can all go home and pretend the provinces changed their mandates because of them. 

Police presence downtown is heavy. Time to remove "protesters". 

Sizeable turnout from counterprotesters

6 hours ago, MOBomberFan said:

Sizeable turnout from counterprotesters

Mmmmm not really counter protestors more sane promoters.

As of 8:00 CST, the Windsor blockade has been dismantled under threat- at least for now.

Edited February 13, 20223 yr by Tracker

On 2022-02-03 at 4:18 AM, WildPath said:

You used to be a staunch Conservative voter, correct? Would you return to the party if they had the right leader? Genuinely curious.

I feel like any leader would have an incredibly difficult job uniting both elements of the party. They've fed their followers BS for years (see climate change) and they are dealing with the fall-out of a fairly divided group of voters. Like Noeller, it scares the hell out of me that they chose an interim leader who is an all-out convoy-supporting MAGA clown and they just might come to power somehow (Ontario has elected 2 Ford governments, we chose Pallister twice), but I see uniting the voters on the right as an increasingly difficult task.

No, probably not as there are too many social conservatives & Reformers still living in the 90's in that party. They also support the occupatiosn going on right now which I believe will be their fatal mistake.

I don't know where I'll park my vote. My 2 sons can't figure out what's happened to me as they are right wing Conservatives. I told them people change with age & experience. I'm a senior now. I'm not 35 when I was a piss full of vinegar Reformer. Today, I see cuts to healthcare. I see a moronic AB Premier who picvks fights with everyone & hasn't come through on one election promise. Dropping masking restrictions is just crazy. I can't stand Kenney. I thought O'Toole was a lying fool. (Hey, that rhymes). I'll never go back to the Conservative I was in 1993. 

11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

No, probably not as there are too many social conservatives & Reformers still living in the 90's in that party. They also support the occupatiosn going on right now which I believe will be their fatal mistake.

I don't know where I'll park my vote. My 2 sons can't figure out what's happened to me as they are right wing Conservatives. I told them people change with age & experience. I'm a senior now. I'm not 35 when I was a piss full of vinegar Reformer. Today, I see cuts to healthcare. I see a moronic AB Premier who picvks fights with everyone & hasn't come through on one election promise. Dropping masking restrictions is just crazy. I can't stand Kenney. I thought O'Toole was a lying fool. (Hey, that rhymes). I'll never go back to the Conservative I was in 1993. 

You sound a lot like what one of the sane Republicans in the US said a few years ago: "I didn't leave the party, it left me".

@SpeedFlex27, I wanted to say thanks for sharing. I'm somebody who has usually voted Conservative and I feel like you or as @Trackersaid, perhaps the party left me.

14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

No, probably not as there are too many social conservatives & Reformers still living in the 90's in that party. They also support the occupatiosn going on right now which I believe will be their fatal mistake.

I don't know where I'll park my vote. My 2 sons can't figure out what's happened to me as they are right wing Conservatives. I told them people change with age & experience. I'm a senior now. I'm not 35 when I was a piss full of vinegar Reformer. Today, I see cuts to healthcare. I see a moronic AB Premier who picvks fights with everyone & hasn't come through on one election promise. Dropping masking restrictions is just crazy. I can't stand Kenney. I thought O'Toole was a lying fool. (Hey, that rhymes). I'll never go back to the Conservative I was in 1993. 

Thanks for sharing.

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

@SpeedFlex27, I wanted to say thanks for sharing. I'm somebody who has usually voted Conservative and I feel like you or as @Trackersaid, perhaps the party left me.

I'm not sure if I can continue to vote, at this time - in anything other than municipal elections.  If it's Trudeau vs. Polliviere, there's no way I can vote for either of them. 

On 2022-02-11 at 11:48 AM, the watcher said:

One more point for every level of government.  Precedence is being set here. The next time indigenous,  LGBQT, the gun lobby , the anti gun lobby or any other group with a bone to pick , just or not ,have  an issue,  they have a template on how to get attention. . Let's see if Mr Goertzen is so understanding then.

He won't be understanding at all.  This is what's really at the heart of these protests. They are not about vaccines, that's just a smoke screen.  These guys are afraid of their own priveleges being eroded, due to some of the groups you mentioned asserting themselves. Why else are the police playing nice? 

15 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

I'm not sure if I can continue to vote, at this time - in anything other than municipal elections.  If it's Trudeau vs. Polliviere, there's no way I can vote for either of them. 

This has gone through my mind too. I would be ok voting NDP or Liberal provincially.

48 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Why else are the police playing nice? 

Oh, Winnipeg police aren't always playing nice. It depends on the side you are on and the colour of your skin.

Detainment of Indigenous demonstrator causes outrage and disgust (citynews.ca)

35 minutes ago, WildPath said:

Oh, Winnipeg police aren't always playing nice. It depends on the side you are on and the colour of your skin.

Detainment of Indigenous demonstrator causes outrage and disgust (citynews.ca)

LMAO that they arrested them due to public intoxication.  I guess there's no drinking in any of the convoys...

Looks like this guy had a wee bit of sauce...

 

7 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Looks like this guy had a wee bit of sauce...

 

Sad and I don’t say that in a mocking way.

Truly sad to see how you can trace him from birth to this exact moment and what has happened in his life. Vicious cycle of how certain human beings develop and how they develop others thru the life cycle.

3 hours ago, Mark H. said:

He won't be understanding at all.  This is what's really at the heart of these protests. They are not about vaccines, that's just a smoke screen.  These guys are afraid of their own priveleges being eroded, due to some of the groups you mentioned asserting themselves. Why else are the police playing nice? 

When you have been privileged equality feels like oppression.

According to CBC radio news, one OPP officer and two JTF4 soldiers have posted support for the occupiers on social media.

46 minutes ago, Tracker said:

According to CBC radio news, one OPP officer and two JTF4 soldiers have posted support for the occupiers on social media.

 

58 minutes ago, Tracker said:

According to CBC radio news, one OPP officer and two JTF4 soldiers have posted support for the occupiers on social media.

Wow again grounds for seeing it from both sides, you know science, social responsibility, we’re in this together 95 percent of us versus a small percentage of self entitlement, muh rights muh freedom, muh rights don’t end at your fears, you can’t mandate me being a good citizen. Makes perfect sense.