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Around The League Off Season Discussion

Well that loss stung last night. Not happy with the decision to kick the FG but that can be discussed elsewhere :) All in all there was a lot of improvement this year over last year and looking like they are trending upwards. If Walters can pull off another great draft and some more key FAs this offseason I like our chances going into 2017. Who is on the FA watch list and what areas are we in desperate need of fixing?

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    The Bombers really need to kick the Riders ass sideways in their first game in the new park to set the tone for the season and send their fans off on the crazy train.  Nothing else matters.

  • Riders haven't lost yet so their fans feel emboldened to venture out of their own little bubble. Won't have to wait long for them to scurry back into their holes.

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36 minutes ago, mbrg said:

And by using "encapsulate" in a post I realize I have waived all rights to not be punched in the junk.

In all honesty I believe this usage was alluded to in an earlier post, but going forward, I think we can let this one pass, since it was part of the process of arriving at concensus on the issue at hand.

 

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5 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

Meh. If being a nerd is winning championships than I'll take it. See Chicago Cubs.

Based on the transactions to date who rises, who falls in the standings:

East - Durant will make the Alouettes a contender again .... will see what Calvillo can do to keep hin uporight .... don't know how much the management coaching team is going to help or hurt but I suspect the latter

Hamilton lost a lot in free agency and does not seem to have a plan to change their status quo ... still Austin must have something up his sleeve ..... If Collaros is healthy all year maybe the Cats take a run at first

Ottawa has been on wheels the last two years and maybe one is about to fall off .... salary capp you know .... pass and catch game is on  a definite down tick ... best legacy so first or second still likely but third is a real possibility

In Toronto we will see QB management that will make a huge difference on the Trestman team .... will have a much better record but no cigar this year

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West

Calgary just keeps doing everything right ... no signs of a crack anywhere .... best management in the league .... their QB decisions is where some type of fault may show up

Edmonton hasn't been plagued by a player Exodus to Jones ... a lot of shuffling but nothing I can see that will change life much for them .... in a 2 or 3 way fight for 2nd, again .... anybody see differently?

Huge loss of US personnel is Wally's challenge but he is a recruiting machine ... may be some early season weakness but am guessing will pick up momentum as the season progresses ... will surprise on resiliency

Regina will likely improve on D but the offence looks like it will be a sorting out disaster all year .... Jones's ego is not enough to fuel the boat and the water won't rise put of the basement

Is MOS short for Moses and our quest for the promised land? I think we are better than last year but no where near the dynasty building stage ... a cup in 2018 more likely than 2017 ... should be more fun than last year .... maybe MOS just needs to grow his beard longer

 

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17 hours ago, Rich said:

Why would you not consider it a real stat?

82% tells you how many field goals they made vs attempts.  My understanding of points above expected is it takes into account the distance (or difficulty) of the field goals attempted and made.

I don't quite understand this stat... so if a kicker lines up for a 50-yarder, would that be considered "not expected to make" so if he makes it he would be 3 point above expected?.... then does it consider weather and wind too?... wouldn't someone technically have to review almost every kick all season and make a judgement on if it is expected or not?... 

9 minutes ago, bearpants said:

I don't quite understand this stat... so if a kicker lines up for a 50-yarder, would that be considered "not expected to make" so if he makes it he would be 3 point above expected?.... then does it consider weather and wind too?... wouldn't someone technically have to review almost every kick all season and make a judgement on if it is expected or not?... 

It could potentially take into account all of those things and that is part of the problem with the way Dunk reports these numbers.  All I've ever seen from him is pictures of portions of his spreadsheets that he sends out on Twitter without explanations as to what numbers go into them, or what his methodology is.

The NFL sites that track and post these analytics at least define and tell you what and how they are calculating things.

Here is a sample from an NFL analytics site:

http://archive.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2012/01/temperature-and-field-goals.html

FGaccuracybytemperature-1.png

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What you would basically do is compare the league average of each kick for a kicker based on down, distance, (maybe temperature / wind speed) and see if overall they are making more or less then league average on each kick then add all of those up for their overall number.

Former Bombers DB Johnny Adams signs with Esks...

28 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Former Bombers DB Johnny Adams signs with Esks...

good for adams, I always liked him, but I think his play got a little too inconsistent with us towards the end of his time here. 

What does our starting secondary look like atm,  Randle/Frederick/Loffler/Heath/Roberts?

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2 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

good for adams, I always liked him, but I think his play got a little too inconsistent with up towards the end of his time here. 

What does our starting secondary look like atm,  Randle/Frederick/Loffler/Heath/Roberts?

bruce johnson with frederick on corner/ Roberts and fogg needing to take some ones spot with one probably fogg being the extra db on paper going into camp. 

Riders didn't know. Found out when reporters called. Reaves played last season out on bail and his trial is nov 20th. 

 

19 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

I can't read the WFP article without a subscription,  when exactly was he caught?

in any case this is disappointing, I was rooting for Reaves to carve himself out a CFL career.  The irony is many Rider fans were mocking the Stamps and Tommy Campbell for getting caught with a bag full of crack a few months ago.  Guess they have some crow to eat

The article says he was arrested in early 2016.  It also says he has a 2008 conviction for trafficking.  Not good.

On 3/15/2017 at 1:49 PM, mbrg said:

And by using "encapsulate" in a post I realize I have waived all rights to not be punched in the junk.

yes at this point you should just present junk and expect it to be punched

Reaves is facing some tough times. Hopefully this is his "rock bottom" and through this he can get the help he needs to turn his life around for good. His football career though, may be over...

2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

yes at this point you should just present junk and expect it to be punched

This better not start a 'junk pics for likes' detour.  Morley's gitch shot was bad enough.

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9 hours ago, Floyd said:

This better not start a 'junk pics for likes' detour.  Morley's gitch shot was bad enough.

yeah that gitch shot encapsulated all we need to see when it comes to junk pics.

2 hours ago, Rich said:

 

Didn't we release him around the time of the charge? if so... makes sense now.

It's just cocaine, whatever

5 minutes ago, Atomic said:

It's just cocaine, whatever

I know!!  Its not like its cough syrup or a protein supplement... pfft.

2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Didn't we release him around the time of the charge? if so... makes sense now.

No. The arrest occurred in early 2016 and Reaves was released by the Bombers at the end of TC that year.

The vast majority of nose candy dealers are users who have turned to retailing to pay for their own habit and then have found out how lucrative it can be. Jordan was the author of his own misfortune but I feel most for his parents. Willard was/is a good guy but this is a parent's nightmare.

3 hours ago, Jacquie said:

No. The arrest occurred in early 2016 and Reaves was released by the Bombers at the end of TC that year.

I wonder if that and the current regimes emphasis on "character" is why he was released. 

1 hour ago, tracker said:

The vast majority of nose candy dealers are users who have turned to retailing to pay for their own habit and then have found out how lucrative it can be. Jordan was the author of his own misfortune but I feel most for his parents. Willard was/is a good guy but this is a parent's nightmare.

small time dealers sure. The largest pushers are closer to the distributors these days. The white market in the area has been hotly contested, and there have been a bunch of arrests going back a few years now. Junkie pushers arent a good way to stay out of jail. 

4 hours ago, Atomic said:

It's just cocaine, whatever

:P with the white liquor its the violence brought on by the amounts of money that would be the concern. 

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