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Exactly. Everybody assumes that one event doesn't influence another. Teams play differently with leads. yeah but it wasn't the riders offense that got them the lead. And when push came to shove and they needed a first down to run the clock down they couldn't get it despite having two opportunities. They also had a turn over on downs earlier in the game. The Riders offense was the least factor in that game being decided the way it was. Bombers won 2 phases of the game but got their asses handed to them in the third.

IF you tackle the guy before he's already returned the ball to midfield the holding never has a chance to happen... When you let a returner get to the point where there's only one guy with a chance of stopping him you've failed in your coverage a long time before.

You know I'd be shocked if there weren't racist remarks flying around a football field pretty regularly too.

You are completely wrong. Look at where the Riders points came from in both games in Winnipeg. Offence didn't put up enough points in the first game and gave up 2 direct TDs, special teams did the same yesterday. If the O and ST don't hand the Riders points, both games in Winnipeg are easy Bomber wins even with 200 rushing yards against. When a team has a big lead their approach to the game changes. The only number that matters is the final score. But that big lead didn't come from the Riders offense, it came from special teams.... The Bombers won the battle on offense and defense yesterday, they just lost the special teams battle in a very lopsided manner. A win is a win, but when dissecting why a loss was a loss you can delve deeper into it than simply the final score. Let me ask you this, as a Rider fan were you pleased with the way the Riders offense played?

I dont think he knows what it means when you put quotes around something Nothing the guy does makes me think he's anything more than a complete dumbass. If he had any kind of smarts at all he'd probably be a pretty decent football player, but he doesn't and he isn't. Complete liability on the field.

There are in fact people saying exactly that. If it was 200 rushing yards given up combined with 200 or 300 passing yards they might have a point but the fact that the total offense given up was like 300 yards and the riders managed only a touchdown means that defensively the Bombers managed fine. Yeah they gave up some run yards but it didn't cost them the game. There were tons of chances to score more points and they missed them, How about taking a 15 yard penalty to back them out of field goal range? Get a field goal there and suddenly a field goal at the end of the game ties it rather than taking a shot for the endzone. The blocked field goal, that was a mistake by the blocking plain and simple and without that the game could easily be a win. They made too many mistakes in this game on special teams and that was the difference. I'd say that the Bombers won the other two phases of the game, but they got beat so bad on special teams it cost them the game.

The biggest thing with Romby is that he and Willy just don't have any chemistry at all. Seems when they try and stretch the field deep with him the ball is never close because they just don't know how to play with each other. I think this team needs more weapons on offense bottom line. We have a lot of guys who can make a catch at receiver but we don't have a lot of guys who can put the fear of god into a defense and I think we need a game breaker like that. Especially when we go in without Moore our receivers are not a scary group.

People got their ideas thrown out of whack by the good start to the season. They forgot that we still had average at best coordinators on this team and paper thin depth in several areas.

Calgary and Sask sure seem like they stick with the run for four quarters... watch BC combo Logan, Harris and Brown against us next week - another test of Etch's 'flexibility' BC doesn't have a quality o-line so they can't run it as consistently. PLus last time we played them the Bombers shut down Harris just fine.

Apparently it was good enough. good enough when your special teams gets more points than your offense does.

at least I can accept when the Bombers don't play well enough to win and don't need to make excuses by blaming the refs. The Riders have as much to complain about as us, they just got the big plays when they needed them.

That's the entire philosophy though! you might get yards but you won't get points from running the ball. If the special teams hadn't made the mistakes for 2 touchdowns we'd be talking about it working.

and yet the Bombers still had chances to win if they'd made a couple more plays at the end of the game.... You don't need to have played football to understand that blaming the refs is a fools errand.

The refs are **** 17. I don't blame them for the loss today. it doesn't make them any less ****. If you think the refs in the CFL are competent, then you're not as smart as you think you are. and where did I say that? All I said was blaming the refs for a loss is what people who don't know football do. The refs are ****, but they're **** for everyone. Winning teams still make more plays than their opponents and the Bombers didn't do that today.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Riders are one of the worst matchups for the Bombers. Their strengths are their lines and running game, the bombers weakest parts are their run defense and their offensive line. Just a bad matchup and they managed to be close (yeah close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades and monkey **** fights) so it is way too soon to jump of the bandwagon.

The got the ball back for the offense twice in the dying minutes. Offense got greedy on the first try at the end, never should have made that play but I'll forgive a young qb for that. 2nd chance they had too far to go and not enough time, but when we needed them the D made some plays. Yeah they gave up some rushing yards but it really didn't hurt them on the scoreboard. The special teams did far more damage handing free points to the Riders.

what positive attribute does he bring to this team? I can't think of a single thing.

blaming the refs is what people who don't understand **** about football do.

just disgusting comments from him. "I'm gonna take responsibility but here's my excuses why it wasn't my fault" guy is too dumb to know how dumb he is.

but only one TD drive given up. D and O weren't the reasons this game was a loss, it's all on the special teams gaffes and the penalties.

after listening to the Kuale post game interview, cut him now. Takes no responsibility for his bone headed plays. He is a detriment to the team.

We scored more on offense than they did.... but they got 2 big plays for touchdowns on special teams... that was the difference in the game otherwise the Bombers were the superior team.

**** that attitude. Take care of your own business and you can make the playoffs without needing help from anyone.

with their #2 on the IR for the rest of the year they don't have a lot of choices. They might give Elliott some time eventually but it'll be at the end of the year if anything.

playing mostly against the east it's the perfect situation for him. Avoid the ugly games, beat up on the weak teams. Everyone is focussed on the west but it's going to be interesting to see how things shake out in the east too.