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  1. Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    Is Oliveira quietly putting together an MOP type season?

    With injuries and BC/Winnipeg running away from the West it looks like no QB will hit 5000 yards and you might not see someone throw for 4000 depending on Collaros' injury.

    At the halfway point, 703 Rushing yards and 274 Receiving Yards puts him on pace for almost 2000 yards from scrimmage. 1406 yards rushing would be the 4th most ever by a Canadian. Only on pace for 8 TDs which would probably need to come up a bit. He's been the focal point of a few 4th quarter, game sealing drives and is gaining a reputation as a back who is going to consistently eat clock for you in those situations. The bottom 4 teams for rushing yards against are MTL, CGY, HAM and EDM and wouldn't you know, that makes up 5 of the Bombers last 9 games.

     

  2. CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

    ummm. I hate to break it you. But in 2019 the Bombers...WITH Collaros were 3rd in the west. We went on the road to cgy then regina. Collaros played a huge part in both games and I'm not sure the outcome is the same if Nichols plays. BUT the Defence gave up how many TDs to ssk....in ssk? That was the start of the greatest Defence the CFL has ever seen. Without Collaros, the Bombers maaaaybe still had a chance at getting to the GC. Without the Defence playing the way they did, there is absolutely zero chance. 

    I would post Collaros stats throughout the 2019 GC run, to show how steady, but unremarkable they were. But I can't find them because the CFL website is hot garbage.

    West Semi Final -- 11 of 21 for 193 yards and a TD
    West Final  -- 17 of 25 for 267 yards and a TD
    Grey Cup --  17 of 23 for 170 yards

     

    I think the argument that is being made here, and that the Bombers were a 3rd place team, Streveler was at least somewhat injured (and underwhelming as a non-gadget player) and the depth QB was Sean McGuire. If you don't pick up Collaros, maybe you grab another QB instead and not have to trot him out there, but McGuire with his one career start, 15-36 for 221 yards that includes 1 TD against 4 interceptions doesn't really inspire much confidence. 

  3. CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

     

    teams that don’t develop the next QBs quickly sink back to the bottom of the standings. Dynasties ALL develop their next qb. The guy who replaced Peyton was pretty good too  

     

    Different situation in the NFL obviously because you can get a QB in the draft, but Peyton and Luck were never on the same roster. Manning messing up his neck had the Colts suck for Luck, and Peyton was released to join the Broncos. Manning managed to get Osweiler a fat contract as his backup, and when he retired he was succeeded by Trever Simian, Paxton Lynch (remember him?!?) and then Case Keenum over the next 3 years... so not exactly anyone to write home about.

    2 success stories I can actually think about in the NFL are Rivers to Herbert, and Smith to Mahomes. The NFL is quite a different beast though, the quality of QBs sitting on the bench is obviously far higher.

  4. CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

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    3 hours ago, wbbfan said:

    Short yardage as a full time dedicated roster spot is insane as well. In the cfl you need all the qb depth you can get. In general in football your qb fortunes can turn on a dime and your franchise with it. 
     Qb sneak is the easiest damn play in football. It’s 99% ol and 1% not messing up. Holder on fg kicks, long snapper etc are way more important. 

    I dont think football coaches with a legitimate MVP quarterback stay up at night working about QB Depth. I always fondly remember someone asking the Colts OC why their Peyton's backups didn't get more reps, "Fellas, if 18 goes down we're ******, and we don't practice ******." Probably pretty similar to how everyone feels about Collaros.

     

  5. Week 7 - E(l)ks @ Blue Bombers - GDT

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    28 minutes ago, Booch said:

    there a difference between easy and lucky...or fortunate

     

    I was reading an article about the Ottawa game and it highlighted a real issue I see with how people deal with analytics vs 'the eye test'. Dude was complaining about how PFF was rating Crum so poorly compared to even say Collaros.

    You can do the right thing and have a bad outcome, and you can do the wrong thing and have a good outcome. I think with QBs this is a bit more obvious if there is a clear read progression. You can't really complain about a QB missing an open guy if he was the 4th or 5th read against a blitz. As a RB, there is only so much you can do if you run where you are supposed to and the hole slams shut, but if you mess up the hand off and end up having to spin around and bounce outside for 35 yards, that really isn't a super positive play 95% of the time.

  11. 2022/2023 Off-Season (League/Non-Bombers-specific News)

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    3 minutes ago, Booch said:

    But now probably making what...less than half of that now in XFL..even with exchange significant less...guess shows that SASK was gonna way over pay to keep, and no other team thought that even 160k for him was a worthy price....I can just imagine the premium they played for basically...Tier 2 at best free agent talent

    XFL Season runs until May 13th, CFL Training Camp opens on May 16th. Wonder if some players are trying to double dip. I'm not sure the contract requirements in the XFL but I know players can dip if they get NFL offer, wonder if its a 2 year contract with an out or if its year to year with an option.

  13. Don't Look Back - 2022/2023 Bombers Off Season

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    27 minutes ago, bearpants said:

    Don't want top rehash the grey cup too much... but the final kick is not the play that bothers me... I keep thinking about having Tor at 2nd and 20 at a critical juncture of the game (5:56 left to play, Bombers up by 6)... and allowing them to so easily pick up the first down... that's the play that haunts me 

    For me the play is the Prukop interception. Grant kick return TD for take the lead. Missed PAT which was 👎. Hold the Argos to a FG on their next drive. 13 yard pickup by Oliveria. And then for whatever reason you have Prukop out there bombing a pass into double coverage and its picked and all the momentum generated by the kick return TD evaporates and the field is tilted in favor of the Argos.

  17. Rourke Contract squabbles

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    The reason for the language is that for 95% of the cases you are never going to exceed that. Some canadian DB? Maybe throw them a bone (up to 10% increase) in their option year and you have more than one year of control. Or cut them loose if they don't work out

    When you have a generational Canadian QB (Rourke) or a very good receiver (KSB) you tear up the option year and keep them happy. This is a good look going forward because NCAA Canadians who might be considering doing the journeyman PR thing down south see that if they come back home and play well for a couple of years they will get paid one way or another.

     

      

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    So yes, you still have to follow the salary grid even if you 'opt out' of the contract.

    Also... if you opt out of the contract... you aren't on the first contract any more? why would you be beholden to the salary grid for 1st contracts at that point?

  18. Rourke Contract squabbles

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    1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:

    OPTION in the same section as draft pick salary is the OPTION that is used for draft picks. It's contract 101.

    Once again from the CBA: Option year base salary to be negotiated - not to exceed 10% more than the 2nd year base salary.

    Some of you have the reading comprehension of a spoon.

    In the 2+1 Draft Pick Contract the "Option Year" is the +1.

    Yes, the base salary of the "Option year" is required to be no more than 10% of the 2nd year base salary. What happens if the team chooses to not "opt into" the "Option Year" of the draftee? Are they (the draftee) required to sign a single year contract at a rate not more than 10% of their 2nd year salary with whoever will have them? Is any team that signs them for any length of time required to have that first year be no more than 10% of the 2nd year? 

     

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  20. Grey Cup 2022 GDT

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    What was the deal with the player package on that Prukop interception?

    That came off of a 13 yard Brady run for a first down, and only the 2nd play of the drive. I thought Prukop was effective where he gets a short yardage first down, and they keep him out there and try to catch the opponent with a mismatched package, either for a designed run outside or a quick pass... was he out there at the start of the drive or did they sub off Collaros for that play?

  21. Rourke Contract squabbles

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    Brady was drafted in 2019, he theoretically should have signed a 2+1 deal then.

    He signed a 2 year contract extension this off season.

    What happened with contracts during the cancelled season? I know players didn't get paid, but did their contracts toll? Were all 2019 draft picked in their option year or were they playing out the 2nd actual year of their deal?

  22. 3 stars plus hh streak break

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    The Bombers the past few years have seemed to be able to identify the exact moment in a game where they can execute on an opportunity and really take it to the other team.

    The moment last night was after the Grant Punt Return. The 4th Quarter Bombers should have run away with the game after that point. However what happened was

    1. Missed XP
    2. Inexplicable RTP penalty and letting them get a FG to bring it to with 3
    3. Inexplicable bomb by Prukop on the second play after a great Brady run to give Argos the ball back

    and the Argos are back in the game.

    Despite all the perceived short comings... the Bombers had a chance to win at the end of game. It's too bad that little pass to Demski didn't make it over the DL but I'm not sure why you don't keep riding Brady there. 

  23. Grey Cup 2022 GDT

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    I think the sequence going with Grant getting the TD, missing the XP, letting the Argos drive for a FG and then that terrible Prukop arm punt was the turning point. 

    You have this amazing play that should tilt the field against the Argos but you let them chip back into the game.

    If there is any silver lining, losing the game in such a manner might keep the team together more for next year. 3 straight and you might see some of the grizzled vets ride off into the sunset. Miserable end to the game might keep them wanting more!

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