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50 minutes ago, sportmentary2012 said:
Fair point about Hardrick but they really have let the oline go. He may have needed the change of scenery.
Don't forget they chose to stay with an injury prone Shoen receiver over lawler. I will guess management knows something about lawler we mere posters Don't know.
RIders chose to make Hardrick [one of?] the most highly paid Offensive Lineman in the league, at age 34, coming off just his second All-Star season.
The Tiger-cats chose to make Lawler the highest paid receiver in the league, despite 3 consecutive seasons he played 2/3rds of the games and only having one 1000 yard seasons to his name
If we want to keep going on 'players who wanted to stay here'... the Elks made Tyrell Ford the highest paid cornerback in the league (and its not even close). Liam Dobson is making over 200k in Hamilton. Drew Desjarlais is making over 200k in Ottawa
The downside of being successful for such a stretch is that these players are going to go out and they are going to get paid. The Bombers have made some... questionable decisions roster construction wise but it is literally impossible to pay everyone what they are going to be worth.
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18 minutes ago, Noeller said:
What in Christ's good name are you talking about? Writing on the wall? 1 year contracts? He's never signed less than a 3 year deal....
Apparently I need more sleep and better reading comprehension
I was remember this article from last year https://3downnation.com/2024/11/26/kyle-walters-mike-oshea-unlikely-to-sign-long-term-extensions-with-winnipeg-blue-bombers-this-off-season/
and snippets such as "as of now, Walters expects to work next year without a long-term contract in place, while O’Shea said last week that he hasn’t “put one ounce of thought” into his contract status", and "O’Shea has always waited for his previous contract to expire before signing the next one, though this is highly unusual." and quotes from even before that like https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/blue-bombers-coach-mike-oshea-unfazed-about-being-in-final-year-of-contract/ "``If you look at the history, I always play out my contracts and figure it out at the end of the year,'' O'Shea told reporters. ``I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it, to tell you the truth.''" have swirled and combined in my head in the past year and formed into "Walters and O'Shea have operated on rolling 1-year contracts" so yeah, I'm the idiot.So my idea of... O'Shea operating on a one-year contract and if the Bombers tank in 2026 doesn't really make a lick of sense
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I'm guessing O'Shea sees the writing on the wall a little bit and has to realize he is on fairly tenuous ground. By all accounts, he seems to really like being here and this is something that he has built over the better part of a decade. I'm guessing he uses the leverage of having the Argos sniffing around to have a bit more stability than the usual 1 year open contract he seems to have favoured the last little bit. Will re-up in the next couple days for 3 years... maybe with some more formal GM duties... maybe Walters is completely gone, maybe he moves up the hierarchy a bit and is less hands on in the GM side of things. The way the roster is currently constructed their almost has to be a fairly significant shake up... multi year gives him at least 2 seasons presumably to get something going again, if he were to come back on a 1-year deal and miss the playoffs... or even be in the cross-over again, that would probably be the end of his time here.
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12 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Not 100% on the rules but Naylor said on TSN on Saturday "One team can't officially ask for permission until one week after the other team has been eliminated".
But O'Shea isn't under contract for 2026 is he? So presumably when the league year ends he would be a free agent
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When would he normally be able to negotiate with the Argos? On Monday?
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12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Yeah the replays tsn had made me think it was a good catch. Nothing super clear but nothing that made.me think they got the call wrong.
Still comes down to offense and defense for BC had.ample opportunities to win that game and failed to do so.
I can't believe the Lions bailed Mace out the way they did.
He really thought... I need at least one touchdown to close out the game, its 3rd and 5 with 3 minutes left... I've already gone for it inside the 5 on third down this half and made it...but no, I am gonna kick a field goal and give the ball to the best offense in the league, with the presumptive MOP and I am going to get the ball back... and it worked! They got the ball back! And then they promptly throw 2 incomplete passes! 3rd down game is on the line but nah, it worked once, lets do it again! And the Lions go two and out again... and the 2nd down play call is so **** the CFL.ca play by play doesn't even count it so it looks like the Lions ran 1 play and then immediately punted it. And now the Riders need to make it 75 yards and score a touchdown in a minute and they do.Like... if the CFL had robust enough stats to calculate a winning percentage those plays would have affected it negatively. The Rider fans were even going for the exits!
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13 minutes ago, CodyT said:
I am instantly way more pissed off about our season
Had the Lions held on the Bombers would have been 4-0 against the Grey Cup participants.
At least this way they are only 3-2
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Rourke might be the least clutch player in the CFL
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27 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Without their starting QB all season. How do you think any other team does in that situation?
Arbuckle in 15 games was 365/504 with 4370 yards and 26/15
In Kellys MOP season in 18 games he was 270/394 for 4123 yards and 23/12
Only real difference between the two stats wise is Team wins and Kelly also ran the short offense and has a bit more mobility.
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Does Grey Cup 2025 news now officially fall under 'Non-Bombers'?
Grey Cup game officially is sold out
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34 minutes ago, CodyT said:
I just want bc because I feel it's the best chance the riders get embarrassed
I have no idea who has the best shot out of the West because all the QBs have been so unclutch in the West Finals the last 3 years. Each of the 3 played against the Bombers in Winnipeg
2024 - Trever Harris - 25/44 1/0 283 Yards2023 - VAJ - 13/26 1/3 221 yards
2022 - Rourke - 20/37 1/2 300 yards
Harris probably had the best stat line but his team lost by the most points. Rourke was apparently still somewhat injured in 2022 but executed perhaps the worst game-ending drive I've ever watched.
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21 minutes ago, MrFreakzilla said:
And one back breaking fumble
Yeah the fumble sucked but that was still what his... 8th touch of the game? If the defense remembers they can't touch a QBs facemask they are still only a touchdown down. Defense can't stay off the field, 36 minutes of offense for Monteral is nuts, Brady can't get any rhythm going... although it looks like they gameplanned him out themselves anyways.
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47 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
but the illegal pass to wallace was funny
Because that ended up standing as a play, that meant that the Reigning MOP/MOC, who was 2nd in the league in Yards from Scrimmage despite missing 3.9 games, had 8 more touches on offense than the starting Left Guard.
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The one name that maybe fits the "sick of Bombers BS" is maybe Jackson Jeffcoat? Or maybe Geoff Gray? Maybe Darvin Adams?
Almost everyone else seems like an obvious case of leaving for money (Dobson, Whitehead, Houston, Castillo, Lawler x2, Ford, Brown) or players the Bombers were clear they were moving on from (Harris, Bighill, Bailey, Wolitarski, Augustine).
There is also that strange subset of players that were flawed (injury prone) that the bombers maybe waited too long on and then left (Grant, might include Jackson in here).
Maybe some of the fringe players who have cycled through the Bombers and then became fringe players elsewhere might count ( the Fox's and Garbutt's of the world) but if they were disgruntled probably why they ended up as a fringe player elsewhere
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So wtf happens if Brady gets dinged or Demski can't make it work?!?
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4 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
Rourke should be MOP and MOC.
MOC for sure. I think narrative wise he might be a bit behind Bo. Bo had marginally better stats, took better care of the ball, a bit better team success. Was the finalist last year trying to drag a terrible team to the playoffs.
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
Apparently Shawn Oakman is finding himself in some hot water on Social media. Some women talking about how much of ****** he is, includes screen shots of texts.
Hopefully the league takes a look and takes appropriate action if any of those allegations are substantiated.
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It's funny that there is an entire cohort of CFL players who dont know anything but the Blue Bombers making the Grey Cup. Most teams are only going to have single digit players who have been in the league more then 5 years.
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This happens every year across every sport, I'm not sure why people are confused. The people who are voting are going to more or less looking at the box score.
There are 2 riders with plenty of picks, they make it to the list even though they both didn't play a chunk of the season. The is one Bombers on the list, despite the Bombers secondary being top of the west in most metrics (other than picks) -
The CFL.ca storylines article made me chuckle today
https://www.cfl.ca/2025/10/28/3-storylines-to-watch-in-the-eastern-semi-final-3/QuoteWinnipeg has been one of the best units against the pass in 2025, keeping opposing quarterbacks to a league-low 62.2 completion percentage (Montreal is just behind at 68.5 per cent) and 261.4 yards per game, second only to the Als (256.9).
The difference between #1 Winnipeg and #2 Montreal is 6.3%. The difference between #2 Montreal and #9 Toronto is 3.9%
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20 minutes ago, Noeller said:
On TV, it seemed like they had a number of injuries. Likely won't know more until practice resumes this week...
QuoteWhen the Als took the field on Saturday, they hoped for only one thing: to head back home with all the soldiers healthy. It didn’t happen as defensive tackle Mustafa Johnson, defensive end Lwal Uguak, offensive lineman Jesse Gibson, and running back Stevie Scott III all had to leave with apparent injuries.
So a few key players didn't finish the game, I imagine anyone who picked up a ding no matter how minor probably got to ride pine though
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5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
How short sighted of the CFL to even have this in the CBA. The word cheap just cries out.
This is standard language and terms in pretty much every major sports league. Teams want control over the players they draft and develop and have them being somewhat cost controlled.
This is actually LESS onerous than most other leagues. NHL is 3 years and then restricted free agency. NBA is 2 years plus 2 years of team options then restricted free agency. NFL is 4 years then a team option I think (3 years if undrafted). MLB is the king of cost-controlling players, I don't think most players make their debut in the majors until their mid twenties, and then there is all kinds of weird rules and arbitrations... I think average age of hitting unrestricted free agency in baseball is something ridiculous like 32.NFL used to have unlimited contract value on their rookies, but teams pushed back on having their first overall picks being their highest paid players.
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It definitely comes down to roster construction and paying year-over-year to keep the team together.
Hopefully some hard decisions are made this off season and there is a bit of a soft reboot. There are definitely some players who are being paid above market value compared to the results they give on the field and there is a correction. Collaros shouldn't be the 3rd highest paid QB in the league. Willie J over 200k doesn't make a lot of sense. Demski being the 4th highest paid receiver in the league at 33 probably doesn't make a tonne of sense.