Arash Madani ‏@ArashMadani  8m8 minutes ago

Per @JDunk12: Esks, Riders talking trade. EDM wants No. 1 pick Josiah St. John AND a first for QB James Franklin. SSK, coherently, declined.

Ed Hervey vs. Chris Jones is going to be a real thing to keep your eye on over the coming weeks and months.

To reach for two first round picks, including No. 1 overall, in return for a back-up QB with a handful of pro starts is... hilarious, really

Bombers must be pretty high on Davis and Bennett. I don't see the problem with trading Willy... but only if the bombers get what they want in return 

Willys contract could be a bit of a stumbling block but Argos are in deep do do and might just feel like they need to do something to get there dwindling fan base some optimism. 

8 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Willys contract could be a bit of a stumbling block but Argos are in deep do do and might just feel like they need to do something to get there dwindling fan base some optimism. 

No one cares about the Argos whether they are winning or not in Toronto 

16 minutes ago, Mike said:

I swear you're just being difficult.

You don't think Toronto should want Willy because who's to say he'll outplay Toronto's backups but we should keep him because he's a valuable player to have?

Make up your mind.

Not being difficult.  He is valuable to you because he is already here, everyone knows him, he knows the system and coaches. Doesn't have as much pressure on him as he would have in Toronto. If Nichols shytes the bed, Willy can come in and play, and if Willy sucks Bombers can platoon them or make something work.  In Toronto, Willy doesn't know players, doesn't know coaches, will have lots of pressure on him to deliver assuming Argo's gave up asking price assets to get him( Lawless reporting Bombers want high draft pick and roster player), doesn't know the offense. SO.... By the time Willy gets up to speed on their offense and makes a meaningful contribution likely the season is lost anyway. So unless Argos are looking as Willy as who they want next year not much sense giving up a lot to get him. Strictly my humble opinion of course.  I would be looking at trying to get Franklin out of Edmonton if I were the Argo's. Younger, cheaper, and sets them up nicely going into next year.

What's Michael bishop up to?

Whiteboard Salesman...

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Whiteboard Salesman...

That is glorious!

Willy to the Argos for Coombs would make sense for all concerned as Coombs is underutilized anyways. We might have to throw JFG in.

My buddy was at practice today and said the store had discounted all the Willy shirts...

19 minutes ago, Ripper said:

Not being difficult.  He is valuable to you because he is already here, everyone knows him, he knows the system and coaches. Doesn't have as much pressure on him as he would have in Toronto. If Nichols shytes the bed, Willy can come in and play, and if Willy sucks Bombers can platoon them or make something work.  In Toronto, Willy doesn't know players, doesn't know coaches, will have lots of pressure on him to deliver assuming Argo's gave up asking price assets to get him( Lawless reporting Bombers want high draft pick and roster player), doesn't know the offense. SO.... By the time Willy gets up to speed on their offense and makes a meaningful contribution likely the season is lost anyway. So unless Argos are looking as Willy as who they want next year not much sense giving up a lot to get him. Strictly my humble opinion of course.  I would be looking at trying to get Franklin out of Edmonton if I were the Argo's. Younger, cheaper, and sets them up nicely going into next year.

Not to be difficult as well, but there is no place on earth where he would be under more pressure to perform right now than at IGF.

In the eyes of some fans his leash wouldn't be short, it would be fashioned into a noose.

I'd also need to see a first round pick, and a decent NI roster player as the starting point in a conversation.  Trading Willy right now is like shooting our foot off to save some money on shoes.  It's such a questionable idea that Toronto would have to be making the great sales pitch, not us.

1 minute ago, Detroit Guy said:

My buddy was at practice today and said the store had discounted all the Willy shirts...

Careful that's how wild and rampant rumour's start  

3 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Careful that's how wild and rampant rumour's start  

Careful- "rampant" means "fully erect".

6 minutes ago, Detroit Guy said:

My buddy was at practice today and said the store had discounted all the Willy shirts...

That might be because back-up QB memorabilia isn't typically a hot seller... 

10 minutes ago, tracker said:

Willy to the Argos for Coombs would make sense for all concerned as Coombs is underutilized anyways. We might have to throw JFG in.

except it would leave the bombers with too many NI's on Offence (yes I know, but who would coombs replace?) and no experienced QB.

Does no one remember 2007? TO is actually a great example of why you shouldn't trade QB's midseason. without knowing exactly what you have behind your starter.

It's funny that there's arguing going on here when everyone is essentially saying the same thing... we need to keep Willy as insurance... but if the offer knocks our socks off, it would be crazy not to take it...

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

That would be Pops last move I'd imagine. MTL isn't out of a play off spot and if they give up a starting quality QB to a division rival...I can't imagine that ending well for any GM.

Ya, don't think it would be a trade. More likely a release or offseason.

11 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

except it would leave the bombers with too many NI's on Offence (yes I know, but who would coombs replace?) and no experienced QB.

Does no one remember 2007? TO is actually a great example of why you shouldn't trade QB's midseason. without knowing exactly what you have behind your starter.

The problem is that we absolutely know who we have as backup QB- a .250 winning pivot. Is that good enough? Is Willy actually better than that?

8 minutes ago, tracker said:

The problem is that we absolutely know who we have as backup QB- a .250 winning pivot. Is that good enough? Is Willy actually better than that?

Well his career win percentage is significantly better than .250 and his win percentage this season is .200 so either way you're wrong

gary lawless ‏@garylawless  7m7 minutes ago

have read the name Henry Burris as a possible solution for @TorontoArgos if Ricky Ray is going to miss time - no chance say @REDBLACKS #cfl

Edited September 8, 20169 yr by Noeller

Interesting suggestion brought up on Twitter.....what about Durant to Toronto? Clearly a short term option for any team, and with the Riders season over, they're into testing mode for next season...

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

Interesting suggestion brought up on Twitter.....what about Durant to Toronto? Clearly a short term option for any team, and with the Riders season over, they're into testing mode for next season...

Except that Jones' ego will not allow him to admit the season is over for the Riders, and thus Durant is not going to be traded.

1 hour ago, tracker said:

Willy to the Argos for Coombs would make sense for all concerned as Coombs is underutilized anyways. We might have to throw JFG in.

Too little

Durant actually makes sense. Pretty sure Jones doesn't do it though.

On RF, they're suggesting they trade back Gale to Toronto for a 1st or maybe a 2nd or 3rd.

2 hours ago, Ripper said:

That's fine Mike. If I were you I wouldn't trade him at all. I wouldn't bet the farm that Nichols doesn't fall apart before the year is over and Willy will be playing. The smart move for you guys is not making one at all.

OMG! I agree with you! I must be wrong ... again. 

22 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Interesting suggestion brought up on Twitter.....what about Durant to Toronto? Clearly a short term option for any team, and with the Riders season over, they're into testing mode for next season...

Would love to see it but Durant is an achilles pop away from being done. If I were Barker I wouldn't do it.