Rod Black Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 iOS.no one asked you to help him. We can figure how that would turn out. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 iOS.no one asked you to help him. We can figure out how that would turn out. Yeah, I assure you that I won't be waiting for the phone call that never comes. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Pheww. Hope you sleep well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Pheww. Hope you sleep well. LIke a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 You hire someone to do a job. A job that is purely performance based and measured in the win loss column. It isn't about close, nice try or almost. If someone in their Devine wisdom wants to bring him back then let that someone then too be accountable if " potential" isn't realized. Others have documented here the success of HCs that are hired part way thru a season when it is time for a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Don Matthews on his taping (stealing) other teams offensive signals: "If you're not breaking a rule, you do whatever you can to make your team better. I don't see anything wrong with advance scouting ... let's call it advance scouting. If you don't take every opportunity you can, you're cheating your team... Personally, I think fans like winners, but the media and other coaches have a problem with winners." Did they take away any of his Cups? nope. Did anyone cheat harder than Matthews? Not that I'm aware of. I don't wanna be the only honest team or a lovable loser. Sask can have that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess the issue is how good are you at it. Maybe Miller needs some lessons from Mathews or the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess the issue is how good are you at it. Maybe Miller needs some lessons from Mathews or the Patriots. There sure are a lot of folks here who take as gospel what they read in the newspaper. Mr Dee and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess the issue is how good are you at it. Maybe Miller needs some lessons from Mathews or the Patriots. OMG, I sure as hell don't want to be the Patriots of the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess the issue is how good are you at it. Maybe Miller needs some lessons from Mathews or the Patriots. OMG, I sure as hell don't want to be the Patriots of the CFL. I'd gladly take their winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I guess the issue is how good are you at it. Maybe Miller needs some lessons from Mathews or the Patriots. Miller get lessons? Wouldn't that be helping him? That's unacceptable in the sink or swim theory of performance management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Given his body mass index he shouldn't have any trouble staying a float in troubled waters. NotoriousBIG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well, no one holds my bottle for me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 All this crap about tampering, and we have no idea if the guy Miller was talking to is currently under contract. Miller can talk to anyone that is not employed right now, and there are some excellent assistant candidates currently out of work. For all we know he was talking to Mike Benevides, or Tom Higgins, or Paul Lapolice, etc. etc etc. This tampering talk is just pure unfounded speculation. Nowhere does it say he was talking to people currently under contract and unless he is the world's worst tamperer I don't for one minute believe that he was. Benevides & Higgins... you would still need to ask permission to BC & MTL. Of course they'd say yes, but they still have contracts so it's part of the process. I like the idea of bringing back LaPo. I'm sure he'd be open to it too, knowing O'Shea will have a short leash, and no one from the Mack era that rushed him out there door is left! No, you do not need permission from b.c. or montreal to talk to higgins or benevides. IF...you hire them then the stipulations as to a payout - if that has not happened already, comes into effect. But they are fired...anyone can call them with inquires... Benevides - no. Higgins - yes. Higgins is still under contract to Montreal so they would have to give their permission to talk to him (unless his contract has already been bought out by the Als). Both Higgins and Benevides have accepted buyouts for the remainder of their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Interesting how that works teams will either offer you a buyout at a greatly reduced percentage of the contract or coaches take a salary continuance. The team then hopes you take another job so they can stop paying you. Coaches then often become "unpaid consultants" so as to not lose their salary continuance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 All this crap about tampering, and we have no idea if the guy Miller was talking to is currently under contract. Miller can talk to anyone that is not employed right now, and there are some excellent assistant candidates currently out of work. For all we know he was talking to Mike Benevides, or Tom Higgins, or Paul Lapolice, etc. etc etc. This tampering talk is just pure unfounded speculation. Nowhere does it say he was talking to people currently under contract and unless he is the world's worst tamperer I don't for one minute believe that he was. Benevides & Higgins... you would still need to ask permission to BC & MTL. Of course they'd say yes, but they still have contracts so it's part of the process. I like the idea of bringing back LaPo. I'm sure he'd be open to it too, knowing O'Shea will have a short leash, and no one from the Mack era that rushed him out there door is left! No, you do not need permission from b.c. or montreal to talk to higgins or benevides. IF...you hire them then the stipulations as to a payout - if that has not happened already, comes into effect. But they are fired...anyone can call them with inquires... Benevides - no. Higgins - yes. Higgins is still under contract to Montreal so they would have to give their permission to talk to him (unless his contract has already been bought out by the Als). Both Higgins and Benevides have accepted buyouts for the remainder of their contracts. Benevides was fired before his extension kicked in so he wouldn't have had to be bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Let's just not bring another guy in who's name begins with the letter M ... Mmmmmmake it Stop! http://chzb.gr/Z8RGjQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Given his body mass index he shouldn't have any trouble staying a float in troubled waters. Classy! Mr Dee, Goalie and Blue-urns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Penton: Wade Miller already recruiting assistant coaches for next year about time somebody did something Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Well, Khari can't be any worse than Marcel, can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does MOS really want Miller's good buddy Khari as his OC? Then what? If you go 1-5 to start 2016 MOS gets fired and Khari is the HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does MOS really want Miller's good buddy Khari as his OC? Then what? If you go 1-5 to start 2016 MOS gets fired and Khari is the HC? If a head coach is so bad at choosing subordinate coaches that the boss of his boss has to pick them, then there is no way he ought to be head coach. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 All this crap about tampering, and we have no idea if the guy Miller was talking to is currently under contract. Miller can talk to anyone that is not employed right now, and there are some excellent assistant candidates currently out of work. For all we know he was talking to Mike Benevides, or Tom Higgins, or Paul Lapolice, etc. etc etc. This tampering talk is just pure unfounded speculation. Nowhere does it say he was talking to people currently under contract and unless he is the world's worst tamperer I don't for one minute believe that he was. Benevides & Higgins... you would still need to ask permission to BC & MTL. Of course they'd say yes, but they still have contracts so it's part of the process. I like the idea of bringing back LaPo. I'm sure he'd be open to it too, knowing O'Shea will have a short leash, and no one from the Mack era that rushed him out there door is left! No, you do not need permission from b.c. or montreal to talk to higgins or benevides. IF...you hire them then the stipulations as to a payout - if that has not happened already, comes into effect. But they are fired...anyone can call them with inquires... Benevides - no. Higgins - yes. Higgins is still under contract to Montreal so they would have to give their permission to talk to him (unless his contract has already been bought out by the Als). Both Higgins and Benevides have accepted buyouts for the remainder of their contracts. Benevides was fired before his extension kicked in so he wouldn't have had to be bought out. They still paid him an undisclosed sum even though his extension had not kicked in. Good will I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does MOS really want Miller's good buddy Khari as his OC? Then what? If you go 1-5 to start 2016 MOS gets fired and Khari is the HC? If a head coach is so bad at choosing subordinate coaches that the boss of his boss has to pick them, then there is no way he ought to be head coach. The more likely scenario is that MOS wanted K.Jones and knew that Miller had an in with him. That would be too easy and likely a scenario for this forum though.... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does MOS really want Miller's good buddy Khari as his OC? Then what? If you go 1-5 to start 2016 MOS gets fired and Khari is the HC? If a head coach is so bad at choosing subordinate coaches that the boss of his boss has to pick them, then there is no way he ought to be head coach. The more likely scenario is that MOS wanted K.Jones and knew that Miller had an in with him. That would be too easy and likely a scenario for this forum though.... So, after the season MOS couldn't have contacted KJ himself but needed Miller's help because Wade knew Jones? If that's the case, we're in even more trouble than I thought. Just call the dude & say he's interested in talking to KJ about joining his staff. Like what's so hard about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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