Its rapidly becoming apparent that MB does not have the offensive gameset in mind for us to be successful..

He probably has this next 3-4 weeks to prove he can make our offensive line, blocking and QB play into something meaningful. I fully expect he falls flat on his face..

With that in mind..

Not so long ago, when Durant got hurt, people on here were going on about how good our QB depth was... Brohm played a bit and sucked and it changed but... let's not pretend that a few shorts weeks ago people weren't pretty much pimping how good our QB depth was. Yeah It's gonna take a bit of a hit when your starter gets hurt, no doubt about it... Time to see what Marve can do. If not Marve then Davis... I'm at the point where i don't want them to recycle QBs from the past, i'd rather they give a younger guy a chance and stick with him a few weeks. 

I also think Walters is over rated in regards to Canadians as well. I just don't think he's done enough to improve the talent level on this team. Every GM finds some guys who can play, the question is, has Walters found enough?

And really, Calgary has gone through about 20 DL in the last 5 years and they've all been dominant. Ditto Edmonton, Hamilton. Toronto's brought in several good ones. We can't even find one guy who's good at getting after quarterbacks consistently, even if that's all he can do like an Odell Willis. Westerman is doing OK, but we have no one who gets into the pocket, his sacks are motor sacks mostly out of the pocket, most on Collaros. Gibson has looked good but apparently can't last 2 games in a row.

Calgary has also gone through 15 starting OL in the last 3 years and still has a great OL. So is it coaching? Well the coach is Pat DelMonaco who everyone hated here. So what's the deal? How come they can bring in junior players and sixth round picks, and have them start on the OL without an issue?

Not sure on the pimping factor. Easy to pimp with a limited amount of PT....it is more speculative. Suddenly as PT increases players weaknesses at any position become exposed. Right now the biggest asset going for him is the lack of video on him.

Oh no, people were definitely pimping our QB depth, not very long ago either... Can pretend that you don't remember or whatever else but... it definitely was the case. 

I suggest that if you objectively listed all the teams QB depth at the start of the season that Winnipeg's may have been at or near the bottom of the CFL.

I would suggest you have a very short memory then.  It wasn't like Calgary Depth or anything but nobody has that depth, it's not toronto depth but again Millanovich is a QB making machine really... We definitely had better depth than BC and still do in my opinion, Definitely better than Montreal... Might even be better than Hamilton, It's basically collaros or nothing there... definitely better than Ottawa, who is the backup to Henry even? Don't kid yourself man, OUR QB depth definitely wasn't Calgary or Toronto but nowhere near the bottom that's for sure. Probably in the middle...

I'll give you better than B.C. But otherwise

Toronto Ray, Harris,Gale

Ottawa Burris, DeMarco, O'Brien

Montreal Crompton, LeFevour, Marsh, Cato

Hamilton Collaros, Masoli they were thin but I would take Masoli

Sask Durant, Glenn, Sunseri

Edm Riley, Nichols, Franklin, Lynch

Calgary Mitchell, Tate

Who is our new 3rd stringer?

that kid they got from Calgary.....

Dominique "The Donkey" Davis

It would be monumentally stupid to change OCs in the middle of the season, unless you are going to hire from within his own staff. The changes in terminology and new playbook would take weeks to implement and months to master. We would be effectively taking ourselves out of the playoff race by doing so. Wanna see a crap offence? Change OCs and playbooks midseason.

Calgary has also gone through 15 starting OL in the last 3 years and still has a great OL. So is it coaching? Well the coach is Pat DelMonaco who everyone hated here. So what's the deal? How come they can bring in junior players and sixth round picks, and have them start on the OL without an issue?

 

 

Believe me, its thoughts like these that keep me driving to the bottom of the CR bottle.

It would be monumentally stupid to change OCs in the middle of the season, unless you are going to hire from within his own staff. The changes in terminology and new playbook would take weeks to implement and months to master. We would be effectively taking ourselves out of the playoff race by doing so. Wanna see a crap offence? Change OCs and playbooks midseason.

Sad to say, unless Marve is as good as we hope, we may be out of the playoff picture by mid-September, and if our offence still sucks at that point, we may as well tie the can to Bellefeuille. I suspect the end will come a little sooner for Chamblin.

buncha thread jackers lol.

id still say screw it and can MB.. make a statement and opens the door for early interviews and seeing if howell and pierce are capable..

 

Calgary has also gone through 15 starting OL in the last 3 years and still has a great OL. So is it coaching? Well the coach is Pat DelMonaco who everyone hated here. So what's the deal? How come they can bring in junior players and sixth round picks, and have them start on the OL without an issue?

 

 

You're exactly right... and that's what leads me to believe there isn't a huge discrepancy in an o-line coach when it comes to coaching up the fundamentals....  I would suspect most o-line coaches know how to teach fundamentals... it's more a matter of system and that points to the OC.... DelMonaco with Dickensen is going to be a lot more successful that DelMonaco with Crowton/Bellefiuelle... and maybe Wylie is only slightly better than DelMonaco in that role... is/should Wylie be more involved in system and game planning?

 

 

Calgary has also gone through 15 starting OL in the last 3 years and still has a great OL. So is it coaching? Well the coach is Pat DelMonaco who everyone hated here. So what's the deal? How come they can bring in junior players and sixth round picks, and have them start on the OL without an issue?

 

 

You're exactly right... and that's what leads me to believe there isn't a huge discrepancy in an o-line coach when it comes to coaching up the fundamentals....  I would suspect most o-line coaches know how to teach fundamentals... it's more a matter of system and that points to the OC.... DelMonaco with Dickensen is going to be a lot more successful that DelMonaco with Crowton/Bellefiuelle... and maybe Wylie is only slightly better than DelMonaco in that role... is/should Wylie be more involved in system and game planning?

 

Pretty obvious that someone should be more involved in game planning when it comes to QB protection.

People seem to forget LaPo was famous for second and 10 and calling the 6 yd out.

People seem to forget LaPo was famous for second and 10 and calling the 6 yd out.

Joey E hasn't forgotten..

People seem to forget LaPo was famous for second and 10 and calling the 6 yd out.

If you only needed 6 yards for a first down, Lapo would have been a stud OC.

I vote Jock Climie for OC.  My 2nd pick is Rod Black.  Either way, they would be off the air.

Which current OCs might be fired this offseason, besides Bellefeuille?

If the Riders clean house, Chapdelaine would be interesting. Khari would be better than Marcel.

Which current OCs might be fired this offseason, besides Bellefeuille?

If the Riders clean house, Chapdelaine would be interesting. Khari would be better than Marcel.

Chap is both the most likely and the best case scenario, I think. The Riders' offence certainly hasn't been the problem this year, despite their massive injury issues at QB.

Which current OCs might be fired this offseason, besides Bellefeuille?

If the Riders clean house, Chapdelaine would be interesting. Khari would be better than Marcel.

 

I think it's time for Khari to come home, he will probably jump at the first OC offer that comes his way.  Miller should have some sway.

Which current OCs might be fired this offseason, besides Bellefeuille?

If the Riders clean house, Chapdelaine would be interesting. Khari would be better than Marcel.

 

I think it's time for Khari to come home, he will probably jump at the first OC offer that comes his way.  Miller should have some sway.

Whole-heartedly agree. I'm not a fan of the Chap-man, but Khari...come home.

 

 

Which current OCs might be fired this offseason, besides Bellefeuille?

If the Riders clean house, Chapdelaine would be interesting. Khari would be better than Marcel.

 

I think it's time for Khari to come home, he will probably jump at the first OC offer that comes his way.  Miller should have some sway.

Whole-heartedly agree. I'm not a fan of the Chap-man, but Khari...come home.

 

I love me some Khari, but is he ready for OC?  He's already been demoted twice.  As everyone else has stated, he's comparable to MB.  We want someone really good that can turn things around.