Harbaugh Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 That didn't take long. Mistake by the new brass, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 it's a mistake to have to take the ratio into consideration when deciding on your roster? Mr. Perfect and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Any port in a storm. Or, if you're in university: any sport in a dorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 No mistake. It's just a ratio thing. O'Shea said he expected Maher to get picked up. Not very hard to be an upgrade over Palardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbaugh Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 it's a mistake to have to take the ratio into consideration when deciding on your roster? It's a mistake to make potential long-term sacrifices to (barely) address something in the short-term when you're re-building. Placekicking is vital. Our ratio problems don't go away by going with a CDN kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 That didn't take long. Mistake by the new brass, I think. Their hand was forced by his passport... though it's discouraging to think Ottawa already has better NI talent than us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'd be more upset if we cut Lirim and he got picked up by Ottawa. Internationals are good ... Nationals are gold. sweep the leg, Blue-urns, Mr. Perfect and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Considering the were both neck and neck during camp not to concerned we let Maher go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 That didn't take long. Mistake by the new brass, I think. No...I don't think so. Maher was in tough to win the job and Osh told him that he'd have to perform significantly better than Highralahoo in order to beat out the Cdn kicker. And I believe it was pretty much a tie between the two. BoMBerFANatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 You are seriously undervaluing the worth of a Lirim. Jpan85 and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbaugh Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I really truly must have seen Hajrahjuhus only few bad days at camp (no sarcasm) coincidentally, if everyone else says they were even I'll concede my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Didn't see any practices, but in the games Hajrullahu and Maher were dead even, Maher obviously has a bigger leg in terms of punting, but didn't place them well leading to big returns, and Renaud is a fairly reliable veteran punter who will have Hajrullahu around to push him too. Over 18 games I expect that Maher's placekicking would be a little more consistent, but Hajrullahu hasn't blinked to this point when the lights have been on. Tie goes to the Canadian. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Just my opinion but i feel as though import kickers are a dime a dozen, similar to running backs really. If you really truly wanted an import kicker to do all 3 jobs, I don't think it would be too hard to find a guy down south. (sorry not calling them nats and internationals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. How about because when they signed the guy they hadn't lost 2 NI players they were hoping could be at least rotational starters to injury for the entire season. Are you seriously missing the point here? It's not like the canadian kickers have been outperformed here, they were all close so if it's close AND your NI depth has already taken a hit with season ending injuries then why the hell wouldn't you expect them to cut the import kicker? blitzmore and Mr. Perfect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comedygeek Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. That's ridiculous. You sign him because if he turns out to be MUCH better, you obviously keep him. And he could've been. He just wasn't. He was good, but so was Lirim. You never really know how these things shake out until the season gets going, but what if our kicker ends up with a better % or more points than Ottawa's? Every team has made "huge mistakes" year after year, even the best, because it's often close enough in training camp that tough calls have to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. Would you have preferred if they only brought in Renaud and Lirim and handed them the jobs without competition. Competition makes everyone better. What if Lirim crapped the bed, and we had no backup? Professional sports is a cut throat business. Maher has told when he signed he would be a long shot and had to out perform in all phases. He came up anyway. And now, he is getting a chance with Ottawa, so it is not all for not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. It's pretty simple, to make it as a DI he had to bring value as a guy who could do all jobs, although if Hajrullahu would have crapped the bed as a placekicker I'm sure you would have seen Maher placekicking and Renaud punting. Hajrullahu has been competing at all three jobs, and Renaud has no idea how to placekick if you have a memory back to 2010 when he had to attempt a convert with the placekicker down, they literally could have picked a random fan from the stands and they probably could have kicked the ball further off a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Iso, in this case, is like a placekicker, he will get the point….after. Chaosmonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. How about because when they signed the guy they hadn't lost 2 NI players they were hoping could be at least rotational starters to injury for the entire season. Are you seriously missing the point here? It's not like the canadian kickers have been outperformed here, they were all close so if it's close AND your NI depth has already taken a hit with season ending injuries then why the hell wouldn't you expect them to cut the import kicker? Well, maybe so. I'm just saying how many players do both jobs punting & placekicking? White in Montreal & McCallum in BC. I just don't think you can really find those kind of players anymore. So, why lay it on one player like that is all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Doesn't Swayze Waters in Toronto do all the kicking jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Walters & MOS knew the ratio situation before camp so why even sign him? For competition? There was no competition. How many guys do both punting & kicking extremely well anymore?? So for MOS to say that Maher had to do both better than the other guys when they didn't have to do both jobs themselves??? Not asking much. If he catches on in Ottawa & scores 130 points & our placekicking isn't as good then it was a huge mistake. There was a very hard fought competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Doesn't Swayze Waters in Toronto do all the kicking jobs? Is Waters even with the Argos anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskbluefan Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Good for the kid. Hopefully he makes it there. And hopefully the guys we kept do great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Doesn't Swayze Waters in Toronto do all the kicking jobs?Is Waters even with the Argos anymore? Yes. Bombers had interest in him this offseason as a free agent but he re-signed with the Argos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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