Man time goes by fast. Just the amount of swagger Zach brought to the bombers as the missing piece in the puzzle. I was forever a Matt Nichols guy as he brought stability to the quarterback position but having Zach do the impossible on the football field I think gave our team the confidence that we could get over the hump and be great. Going back to back after a 30 year draught was a special moment for me that I’ll never forget. It hurts because we truly should have won four in a row, maybe even five but that’s the game of football. That’s life. It doesn’t always work out that way. But I will forever be thankful for what Zach did for this organization and for what he’s meant for this team, the league, and its fans. One thing I’ll say,from 2024-2026 we got a mixed bag but you still saw that Zach is one of those old school hates losing more then enjoying winning kind of guys and I’ll always appreciate the heart and soul he put into this team, he took a lot of big hits but he always wanted to be out on the field leading us back to glory. So a lot of respect to number 8. If this is it I’ll forever be greatfull for all the amazing memories in the last 7 years.

2 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Man time goes by fast. Just the amount of swagger Zach brought to the bombers as the missing piece in the puzzle. I was forever a Matt Nichols guy as he brought stability to the quarterback position but having Zach do the impossible on the football field I think gave our team the confidence that we could get over the hump and be great. Going back to back after a 30 year draught was a special moment for me that I’ll never forget. It hurts because we truly should have won four in a row, maybe even five but that’s the game of football. That’s life. It doesn’t always work out that way. But I will forever be thankful for what Zach did for this organization and for what he’s meant for this team, the league, and its fans. One thing I’ll say,from 2024-2026 we got a mixed bag but you still saw that Zach is one of those old school hates losing more then enjoying winning kind of guys and I’ll always appreciate the heart and soul he put into this team, he took a lot of big hits but he always wanted to be out on the field leading us back to glory. So a lot of respect to number 8. If this is it I’ll forever be greatfull for all the amazing memories in the last 7 years.

Not winning four championships in a row...maybe 5... isn't football. It's a head coach who constantly makes roster mistakes & is so damned stubborn he listens to no one.

10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Not winning four championships in a row...maybe 5... isn't football. It's a head coach who constantly makes roster mistakes & is so damned stubborn he listens to no one.

YEAH...NOT deviating from anything after all the successive failures...tells even the minimally intelligent person that the HC has no clue what to do....let alone why things are failing....move on time long over due....should never had gave a 3 yr extension...wasnt earned. All the earning and goodwill was used up after the 3rd grey cup flop...realistically the 2nd

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Booch

Collaros also put up absolute duds in 3 consecutive Grey Cups though

2024 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 15
- Att: 30
- Pass Yds: 202
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 4

2023 vs. Montreal Alouettes

- Comp: 19
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 236
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

2022 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 14
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 183
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

Combined: 48/76, 621 YDS, 0 TD, 6 INT

He hasn't thrown a TD in a Grey Cup since 2021.

Appreciate the 2 Grey Cups, but it's also been time to move on for 3+ years

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Dr Zaius

Yeah and 2019 collaros wasn't the sole guy either. Harris and Streveler had a ton to do with success offensively that year.

I appreciate the play collaros gave us for a stretch there but his legacy is wildly inflated.

52 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:

Collaros also put up absolute duds in 3 consecutive Grey Cups though

2024 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 15
- Att: 30
- Pass Yds: 202
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 4

2023 vs. Montreal Alouettes

- Comp: 19
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 236
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

2022 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 14
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 183
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

Combined: 48/76, 621 YDS, 0 TD, 6 INT

He hasn't thrown a TD in a Grey Cup since 2021.

Appreciate the 2 Grey Cups, but it's also been time to move on for 3+ years

People...coache's included got too enamoured with reg season wins and "success" but when chips were down and it mattered most..ZC didnt really deliver...and coaching failed us on multiple levels

The Cups we also did win....were won not because our coaching or ZC for that matter were amazing...they were won by the amazing parts we had, and their stellar play...and the proper attitude/hunger/accountability we had that we self policed

A lot walked out the door with guys like Jeffcoat...BA...Bailey...Biggie...Woli...even Kongbo...and was never replaced

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Booch

Collaros is like most QB's in this league. He could put up a MOP year with a great OL, with a bad OL he looks like a jackass.

You can apply this to Harris, Fajardo, Kelly, BLM.

The only guys who maybe have some ability to do it on their own are Rourke and Alexander. Although Rourke hasn't even got that close to getting over the hump yet.

VAJ just sucks in general when it comes to winning.

28 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah and 2019 collaros wasn't the sole guy either. Harris and Streveler had a ton to do with success offensively that year.

I appreciate the play collaros gave us for a stretch there but his legacy is wildly inflated.

Much like Osh's...we did a lot of winning despite his flaws...continued flaws and bias's and we were able to wring every drop outta guys to do it until we just didnt have the guys to do it anymore...well we likely did but they had to take a backseat to the Osh bois

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Booch

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

People...coache's included got too enamoured with reg season wins and "success" but when chips were down and it mattered most..ZC didnt really deliver...and coaching failed us on multiple levels

The Cups we also did win....were won not because our coaching or ZC for that matter were amazing...they were won by the amazing parts we had, and their stellar play...and the proper attitude/hunger/accountability we had that we self policed

A lot walked out the door with guys like Jeffcoat...BA...Bailey...Biggie...Woli...even Kongbo...and was never replaced

Agree with everything except you’ve got to give ZC some credit for 2021. He did get it done at the end of the 4th and OT, granted 2 bad picks put Hamilton in the position to get ahead in the first place.

2 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Agree with everything except you’ve got to give ZC some credit for 2021. He did get it done at the end of the 4th and OT, granted 2 bad picks put Hamilton in the position to get ahead in the first place.

true....He did earn flowers with that cant deny....but the overall accumulation of work...not so much

If he had played lights out even for parts of that game tho we likely aren't even in that position

And when we realistically look at that game it should have been a loss...that bone headed returner giving up a single...we lose that game and the pass break up play by Nichols in the endzone...it of itself was a good play..but also very lucky never occurs...they kick the FG and we would have lost 4 straight Cups

2021 give it to Collaros for sure. He was the man that year.... but I was actually pretty disgusted when TSN was talking during the most recent game about Collaros and his "whatever it takes" attitude talking about the grey cup against Toronto and how valiant it was to go out there and want to be out there with his finger hanging off.... that's not a point in his favour that's selfishness. Putting himself above the team. Can't throw but insists on going out there anyway.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

2021 give it to Collaros for sure. He was the man that year.... but I was actually pretty disgusted when TSN was talking during the most recent game about Collaros and his "whatever it takes" attitude talking about the grey cup against Toronto and how valiant it was to go out there and want to be out there with his finger hanging off.... that's not a point in his favour that's selfishness. Putting himself above the team. Can't throw but insists on going out there anyway.

yeah....and last game...his decision to pull ball from BO and look to pass...when BO was churning up yards...in FG position already at worst....was he seeking the glory?...who knows...but was a poor decision none the less for a 600k QB who had well over a decade of experience

On 2026-11-07 at 6:55 PM, wbbfan said:

this was not a gutsy effort, it was a gutless effort. It showed this team was capable of significantly more than it accomplished. This is not some young up and coming team who falls short and has better days a head. The core of the organization is shot.

I think this is the part that hurts the most... even this year, with a lesser roster... we still saw, in bursts, that this team could be so much better than it was...

Looking back on the 2018-2026 era, and surely we're all happy to have won 2... but with a different staff, I wonder if that easily could've 4 or 5...

On 2026-11-07 at 5:28 PM, Booch said:

Whatever ...he ain't a legit starter...

Maybe, maybe not. If we had a competent DC who actually knew how to use players to their best advantage, that might be different.

3 hours ago, Dr Zaius said:

Collaros also put up absolute duds in 3 consecutive Grey Cups though

2024 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 15
- Att: 30
- Pass Yds: 202
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 4

2023 vs. Montreal Alouettes

- Comp: 19
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 236
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

2022 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 14
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 183
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

Combined: 48/76, 621 YDS, 0 TD, 6 INT

He hasn't thrown a TD in a Grey Cup since 2021.

Appreciate the 2 Grey Cups, but it's also been time to move on for 3+ years

Only had maybe 2-3 good playoff games here. The rest are shades of putrid.

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Only had maybe 2-3 good playoff games here. The rest are shades of putrid.

The best players put out their best efforts in the biggest games, and I'm pretty sure Collaros ain't one of those any more, if he ever was.

The pissing on his grave before he's even gone is quite a look from our fan base.

Just now, Noeller said:

The pissing on his grave before he's even gone is quite a look from our fan base.

He isn't dead, retired, or gone from the team currently, and this discussion has been going on for years.

But how dare we talk about how his average playoff performance here is terrible right after he put up a terrible playoff performance that knocked us out? And after dru brown had to come in and save in our season from his piss poor game that was going to have us eliminated from a spot in the playoffs because Zach had a terrible game against 3rd stringers. SHAME!

Seriously though, what discussion did you think would, or should, be going on a couple of days after elimination?

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He isn't dead, retired, or gone from the team currently, and this discussion has been going on for years.

But how dare we talk about how his average playoff performance here is terrible right after he put up a terrible playoff performance that knocked us out? And after dru brown had to come in and save in our season from his piss poor game that was going to have us eliminated from a spot in the playoffs because Zach had a terrible game against 3rd stringers. SHAME!

Seriously though, what discussion did you think would, or should, be going on a couple of days after elimination?

We have a head coach who has clearly demonstrated that certain players like ZC, JT etc have different performance expectations and longer leashes than other players based on what these specific players have earned and have accomplished in the eyes of MOS even if it is a detriment to the team being successful. He probably would never admit to this but it’s a fact.

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

We have a head coach who has clearly demonstrated that certain players like ZC, JT etc have different performance expectations and longer leashes than other players based on what these specific players have earned and have accomplished in the eyes of MOS even if it is a detriment to the team being successful. He probably would never admit to this but it’s a fact.

And might I add critiquing a players present production and future aspirations does not dishonour his past accomplishments and contributions.

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

And might I add critiquing a players present production and future aspirations does not dishonour his past accomplishments and contributions.

exactly...football is a what have you done for me lately sport...and you could add to that what are you able to give me moving forward...more?...or less....we failed badly in projection and transition on the fly here...and it correlates to our now 5 yr in a row decline...each yr being worse than the previous

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

The pissing on his grave before he's even gone is quite a look from our fan base.

Yeah well some of us still would have preferred to move on from him a couple years ago... He didn't really do anything to make us think twice about that opinion.

19 minutes ago, Booch said:

exactly...football is a what have you done for me lately sport...and you could add to that what are you able to give me moving forward...more?...or less....we failed badly in projection and transition on the fly here...and it correlates to our now 5 yr in a row decline...each yr being worse than the previous

Actually, depending on the industry you're from, it's not just reserved for professional sports.

21 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Actually, depending on the industry you're from, it's not just reserved for professional sports.

Not many jobs that pay even 100k a year where you can coast as long and as hard as the vets on this team.

I've got a feeling we haven't heard the last of Zack...He more than likely won't be behind centre anymore but he could take up a coaching position and that would be back east...Don't see him being a panel type but you never know with networks taking up CFL broadcasts..In any case good luck to him in his future endeavors as the club needs to move on