Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

[rebusrankin]

On the plus side, we don't have to argue/***** about Jake starting.

I'm more upset Hogan stays unless its a money thing.

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

Is this a joke?

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

almost every qb turned successful hc failed as a player. That’s the single strongest pipeline of coaches/offensive minds. 

 

For hogan being back, 🤢. Not super surprised but disappointed. 

Very happy jake is retiring. For him becoming the dl coach, I see more positives than negatives. 
On one hand, He isn’t the type of guy i’d go to normally for a dl coach. Interior lunch bucket type guy.

But, he has played beside a ton of great dl. And he’s played roles that was supposed to enable them to do their job better. If he’s soaked up the tech from guys like roh, patterson, etc then he will be in a great position. 

There is an incredible amount of resources to coach the nuances of pass rushing and run stopping. We’ve come a very long way from the days of reading the chapter on dl play from buddy ryan’s book. If jake doesn’t have a lock on that side he can easily get it if he wants to succeed. 
As a player I never really saw it from him, but he did have a ton of motor (when he could actually move lol. 

Our dl coaching hasn’t shined in a very long time. The addition by subtraction of jake leaving the field is huge. A change at coaching the position will likely yield at least a bit of an improvement in that area. 

[WinnipegGordo]

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

dinwiddie

I'm blown away by the uproar over a couple positional coaches lol. Here's a hint guys...they don't really have that big of an impact on players abilities. Scheme and drills baby. Thomas isn't going to turn Lawson into the next Doug Brown and he isn't going to help re-invent Jefferson...but here's the thing...no one is. Hogan isn't the reason BO is a freak of nature and he won't hold him back either. ****** relax boys

I'm just spit-balling here, but maybe the Bombers had limited options to fill the coaching roles due to the operations cap.

Not alot of money left for top level position coaches when Walters and O'Shea prolly got raises with their extentions.

[Engelwood]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

Dinwiddie...check mate

[HardCoreBlue]

25 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

almost every qb turned successful hc failed as a player. That’s the single strongest pipeline of coaches/offensive minds. 

 

For hogan being back, 🤢. Not super surprised but disappointed. 

Very happy jake is retiring. For him becoming the dl coach, I see more positives than negatives. 
On one hand, He isn’t the type of guy i’d go to normally for a dl coach. Interior lunch bucket type guy.

But, he has played beside a ton of great dl. And he’s played roles that was supposed to enable them to do their job better. If he’s soaked up the tech from guys like roh, patterson, etc then he will be in a great position. 

There is an incredible amount of resources to coach the nuances of pass rushing and run stopping. We’ve come a very long way from the days of reading the chapter on dl play from buddy ryan’s book. If jake doesn’t have a lock on that side he can easily get it if he wants to succeed. 
As a player I never really saw it from him, but he did have a ton of motor (when he could actually move lol. 

Our dl coaching hasn’t shined in a very long time. The addition by subtraction of jake leaving the field is huge. A change at coaching the position will likely yield at least a bit of an improvement in that area. 

I'm just really hoping the BB's find a few diamonds in the rough this coming season especially when it comes to our D and O lines and TC is heavily competitive earn your spot at all positions approach.

[TBURGESS]

Good news about the coaching ranks. 

[Goalie]

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

Every coach in hockey pretty much. Most offensive coordinators were bad QBs. I mean the list is quite long in reality. Kellen Moore has the saints rolling. Dude who couldn’t make it in the cfl is the commanders OC. Kliff kingsbury. I mean. There’s a bunch man. In every sport on the planet. 
 

there’s more examples of great players failing as coaches. Wayne Gretzky immediately comes to mind. Deion sanders also cuz Colorado sucks. All the basketball coaches are former average players and despite the bias, Jake played pro football for 13 years longer than you did. And here’s a big thing, he’s respected around the league by his peers and teammates. That says something. Fans can **** on players but those guys who played with him and beside him and against him, they don’t and that means more than people online who will always find something to complain about. Dude bled blue n gold for 13 years. At what point do you show him any form of respect for destroying his body for our entertainment.

 

im fine with Jake as DL coach. 
 

im not sure why they brought hogan back tho. I mean does Brady need a coach. Not really. So could have saved some $$$ there. Awkward. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Goalie

[rebusrankin]

Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Rick Carlisle, Steve Kerr are all guys who are or were great NBA coaches who were also journeyman pros. All we are saying is give Jake a chance.

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Rick Carlisle, Steve Kerr are all guys who are or were great NBA coaches who were also journeyman pros. All we are saying is give Jake a chance.

Yes. Exactly. 
 

One, Two, Three, Four!
Everybody's talking about
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism
All we are saying is give Jake a chance

[WinnipegGordo]

 

[JohnnyAbonny]

3 hours ago, Tracker said:

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

John Madden

[wpgallday1960]

4 hours ago, Noeller said:

I actually laughed about the Jake-As-Coach thing just because I knew exactly what the reaction would be. So funny. 

I think he's well respected in the room and 13 years experience is definitely worth passing on to th next generation. I'm happy for the guy. 

Not to mention the coaching he received while playing 15 or so years on the DL.  To think he couldn’t pass that knowledge on is laughable.

[Goalie]

2 minutes ago, wpgallday1960 said:

Not to mention the coaching he received while playing 15 or so years on the DL.  To think he couldn’t pass that knowledge on is laughable.

Plus guys don’t just decide to become coaches immediately after retiring. This was obviously something that has been there for a while. It’s more about the talent and scheme with the DL tho so improve that and DL should get better. Need a couple solid ends and defensive tackles. Be interesting to see if Willie and Vaughters are brought back. In thinking one only. The kids looked good at the end there so maybe they are starting for us also. But find a couple more. KMB looked like a player also so maybe you bring back Willie and play him way less. Let Vaughters go tho. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Goalie

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

almost every qb turned successful hc failed as a player. That’s the single strongest pipeline of coaches/offensive minds. 

 

For hogan being back, 🤢. Not super surprised but disappointed. 

Very happy jake is retiring. For him becoming the dl coach, I see more positives than negatives. 
On one hand, He isn’t the type of guy i’d go to normally for a dl coach. Interior lunch bucket type guy.

But, he has played beside a ton of great dl. And he’s played roles that was supposed to enable them to do their job better. If he’s soaked up the tech from guys like roh, patterson, etc then he will be in a great position. 

There is an incredible amount of resources to coach the nuances of pass rushing and run stopping. We’ve come a very long way from the days of reading the chapter on dl play from buddy ryan’s book. If jake doesn’t have a lock on that side he can easily get it if he wants to succeed. 
As a player I never really saw it from him, but he did have a ton of motor (when he could actually move lol. 

Our dl coaching hasn’t shined in a very long time. The addition by subtraction of jake leaving the field is huge. A change at coaching the position will likely yield at least a bit of an improvement in that area. 

The only thing I'll say about Jake is he had one move. Bull rush. He held his head up with his left hand in his 3 point stance. .He just charged ahead & was pushed back. If he coaches technique like that... He would have been better served to coach at the U Sport level & learn his craft. Maybe come back in 4 or 5 years. Coaching is a lot different than playing. Hogan should have been shown the door but I guess they felt bad for him & felt they owed him a spot. 

Edited 1 hour ago by SpeedFlex27

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

almost every qb turned successful hc failed as a player. That’s the single strongest pipeline of coaches/offensive minds. 

 

For hogan being back, 🤢. Not super surprised but disappointed. 

Very happy jake is retiring. For him becoming the dl coach, I see more positives than negatives. 
On one hand, He isn’t the type of guy i’d go to normally for a dl coach. Interior lunch bucket type guy.

But, he has played beside a ton of great dl. And he’s played roles that was supposed to enable them to do their job better. If he’s soaked up the tech from guys like roh, patterson, etc then he will be in a great position. 

There is an incredible amount of resources to coach the nuances of pass rushing and run stopping. We’ve come a very long way from the days of reading the chapter on dl play from buddy ryan’s book. If jake doesn’t have a lock on that side he can easily get it if he wants to succeed. 
As a player I never really saw it from him, but he did have a ton of motor (when he could actually move lol. 

Our dl coaching hasn’t shined in a very long time. The addition by subtraction of jake leaving the field is huge. A change at coaching the position will likely yield at least a bit of an improvement in that area. 

One thing the CFL doesn't do is bring in more qualified Canadian coaches from U Sports. They'd rather promote an inexperienced player than a coach who may have also been a former CFL player but found success in coaching at that level that is ready to make the jump.

Edited 38 minutes ago by SpeedFlex27

[Noeller]

From Our Man Tait in his latest piece.... Worth your click, as always:

 

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/12/22/__trashed/

 

 

"...And as for the decision to add Thomas to his staff, O’Shea said this about one of the most-respected people in the building — not just on the roster:

“Love the guy. Can sit here right now and picture him hoisting the Cup in 2019. Extremely smart, passionate, good leader. A guy that just loved being around. There was a time where because of a contract issue he came late to training camp by I don’t know how many days, not much. But the whole practice stopped and everybody went nuts that he walked onto the field.

“That right there speaks volumes about what everybody thinks about him. Not just from the players’ perspective, but in the entire organization.”

Edited 46 minutes ago by Noeller

[Bubba Zanetti]

17 minutes ago, Noeller said:

From Our Man Tait in his latest piece.... Worth your click, as always:

 

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/12/22/__trashed/

 

 

"...And as for the decision to add Thomas to his staff, O’Shea said this about one of the most-respected people in the building — not just on the roster:

“Love the guy. Can sit here right now and picture him hoisting the Cup in 2019. Extremely smart, passionate, good leader. A guy that just loved being around. There was a time where because of a contract issue he came late to training camp by I don’t know how many days, not much. But the whole practice stopped and everybody went nuts that he walked onto the field.

“That right there speaks volumes about what everybody thinks about him. Not just from the players’ perspective, but in the entire organization.”

It was probably sarcasm.

Cautiously optimistic about Condell, but im guessing he was plan B after Miller took the Argos head coaching job. No idea why you would bring Hogan back in any capacity. Youve gotta figure there’s some animosity/bad vibe’s there with a few players. Pretty stupid decision.

[ddanger]

5 hours ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

JT...has bled blue for a long time....will he make a good coach...who knows..hopefully he will. 

Congrats to him on a new position...

Hogan staying on is meh to me, but going back to RB coach, is probably a much better fit for him

 

As to next signing, I am hopeful it's Nuefeld

well said

[WinnipegGordo]

O'Shea said its still to be determined if Jackson is going to be back.

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, wpgallday1960 said:

Not to mention the coaching he received while playing 15 or so years on the DL.  To think he couldn’t pass that knowledge on is laughable.

Coaching/teaching at the pro level is no easy task. With out question he could provide value as a coach at some level. if that level is pro or not we won’t know. Other wise we’d be loaded with great position coaches, and we aren’t. 

43 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

One thing the CFL doesn't do is bring in more qualified Canadian coaches from U Sports. They'd rather promote an inexperienced player than a coach who may have also been a former CFL player but found success in coaching at that level that is ready to make the jump.

your right, that is pretty rare. Usually, the guys who do make that move spend a couple years filling gaps in front office and coaching staffs till earning spots.

2 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

O'Shea said its still to be determined if Jackson is going to be back.

that’s very interesting 

4 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

dinwiddie

I'm blown away by the uproar over a couple positional coaches lol. Here's a hint guys...they don't really have that big of an impact on players abilities. Scheme and drills baby. Thomas isn't going to turn Lawson into the next Doug Brown and he isn't going to help re-invent Jefferson...but here's the thing...no one is. Hogan isn't the reason BO is a freak of nature and he won't hold him back either. ****** relax boys

agree with most of that. My concern with hogan is he showed some serious red flags with fairly low to moderate pressure.