2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Goalie]

12 minutes ago, Noeller said:

That's a paperwork move, I'm sure, but it's awesome to have Lawson back anyhow. Hope he's 100%. We need that guy. 

Pretty sure last time both were healthy, Jake got more reps. Lawson replaces Schmekel. 

[wbbfan]

14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

That's a paperwork move, I'm sure, but it's awesome to have Lawson back anyhow. Hope he's 100%. We need that guy. 

Case wasn’t in the first game, maybe he had to return home? Other wise we could’ve stuck some one on the ir who we know is gonna make it and doesn’t need the reps. 

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Pretty sure last time both were healthy, Jake got more reps. Lawson replaces Schmekel. 

Nah Lawson was taking equal reps with Thomas and more down the stretch before his injury. They paid him top tier money, he’s likely gonna play more snaps than Jake. 

[Booch]

8 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Pretty sure last time both were healthy, Jake got more reps. Lawson replaces Schmekel. 

3 yrs ago...times have changed...put a fork in jt already

5 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Case wasn’t in the first game, maybe he had to return home? Other wise we could’ve stuck some one on the ir who we know is gonna make it and doesn’t need the reps. 

Nah Lawson was taking equal reps with Thomas and more down the stretch before his injury. They paid him top tier money, he’s likely gonna play more snaps than Jake. 

Yeah..he had surpassed him...and makes more than him

[Atomic]

Lawson is 100% starting over Thomas when healthy

[Piggy 1]

7 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Lawson is 100% starting over Thomas when healthy

Hi Osh. U dont say....awesome to hear.....😁

[Brandon]

34 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Lawson is 100% starting over Thomas when healthy

100% I thought we would of replaced the punter last season and that didn't happen.... nothing is 100% with O'Shea...

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, Brandon said:

100% I thought we would have replaced the punter last season and that didn't happen.... nothing is 100% with O'Shea...

 To be fair we haven’t had much competition at P. Evan’s is ridiculously good though. We drafted him I can’t imagine we won’t play him if he kills it in camp. 
 Thing is he can kick for 45-50 with drastically better hang time than Sheahan. And with less shanks. 
 

I think Evan’s would have to really crap the bed to not make the team. 

[Booch]

35 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

 To be fair we haven’t had much competition at P. Evan’s is ridiculously good though. We drafted him I can’t imagine we won’t play him if he kills it in camp. 
 Thing is he can kick for 45-50 with drastically better hang time than Sheahan. And with less shanks. 
 

I think Evan’s would have to really crap the bed to not make the team. 

Evans looks the part...and has solid background

Punter guy looks...well like a gimmicky experiment...which failed...best talent should play and first look was pretty obvious...interesting how his second game looks...

[17to85]

Placement be damned i want a guy who can occasionally boom one to flip the field. What's his nuts has no hope of ever doing that.

[HardCoreBlue]

21 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Placement be damned i want a guy who can occasionally boom one to flip the field. What's his nuts has no hope of ever doing that.

Decent yardage well placed with good/great hangtime to allow our punt return guys to do their jobs is all I ask. 

[Booch]

7 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Placement be damned i want a guy who can occasionally boom one to flip the field. What's his nuts has no hope of ever doing that.

Agreed...we lacked that

[wbbfan]

11 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Placement be damned i want a guy who can occasionally boom one to flip the field. What's his nuts has no hope of ever doing that.

That brings value in keeping the return team off balance, too.  Teams can't just run to a spot 40 yards downfield based on where their returner is set up / reading. Medlock was fantastic at recognizing when a KR was cheating to one side too much, then smashing a low screamer away from him, ending up with a massive punt bounce n roll for 70+ yards. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Some interesting numbers...

Medlock

2016 raw average 42.7 long 65 2 singles 1 punt return TD against 35.8 net

2017 raw average 43.7 long 85 2 singles 1 punt return TD against 35.9 net

2018 raw average 44.5 long 62 1 single 1 punt return TD against 37 net

2019 raw average 44.5 long 71 1 single 1 punt return TD against 37.5 net

 

Sheehan

2023 raw average 46.2 long 73 0 singles 0 punt return TD against 36.2 net

2024 raw average 44.4 long 70 0 singles 0 punt return TD against 36.2 net

[Bigblue204]

medlocks punting was never his strength though. Sheehan is a punter. He should be better than a guy who did everything else.

[GCn20]

17 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Case wasn’t in the first game, maybe he had to return home? Other wise we could’ve stuck some one on the ir who we know is gonna make it and doesn’t need the reps. 

Nah Lawson was taking equal reps with Thomas and more down the stretch before his injury. They paid him top tier money, he’s likely gonna play more snaps than Jake. 

Jake began the season getting the majority of reps and that completely reversed by the end of the season. IF Lawson comes back with the same game he left with, I would think that Jake will have a much reduced role in our defence. Of course, that likely takes a few weeks as Lawson just got back.

16 hours ago, Atomic said:

Lawson is 100% starting over Thomas when healthy

Lawson will 100% have to show he is fully recovered, however, I see no indication anywhere that he isn't.

15 hours ago, Booch said:

Evans looks the part...and has solid background

Punter guy looks...well like a gimmicky experiment...which failed...best talent should play and first look was pretty obvious...interesting how his second game looks...

Yea....not willing to hand anyone a job yet, but if he just does what he did last game I can't see how we can justify keeping Sheahan over him.

Edited 3 hours ago by GCn20

[GCn20]

13 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Placement be damned i want a guy who can occasionally boom one to flip the field. What's his nuts has no hope of ever doing that.

Booming punts is not something you really want to see often because most guys CAN actually outkick coverage if were to let them, however, when we are punting from our end zone and simply can't give up the single because of the scoreboard it would be really nice to have a guy who can uncork a 60 yarder and just pray that our cover team can do something about the return.

[Booch]

18 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Jake began the season getting the majority of reps and that completely reversed by the end of the season. IF Lawson comes back with the same game he left with, I would think that Jake will have a much reduced role in our defence. Of course, that likely takes a few weeks as Lawson just got back.

Lawson will 100% have to show he is fully recovered, however, I see no indication anywhere that he isn't.

Yea....not willing to hand anyone a job yet, but if he just does what he did last game I can't see how we can justify keeping Sheahan over him.

If Lawson is healthy again....he's easily in the top 2 or 3 national DT's in the league....and if stays healthy this yr likely stakes a claim as one the best.....Playing behind any other Cdn DT on our roster would be a joke

And agree...as for all spots hope none are just handed/rewarded.....but if Evans does what he did again....handles the holder job with no issues for Castillo.....that change has to be made

 

[wbbfan]

20 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Jake began the season getting the majority of reps and that completely reversed by the end of the season. IF Lawson comes back with the same game he left with, I would think that Jake will have a much reduced role in our defence. Of course, that likely takes a few weeks as Lawson just got back.

Lawson will 100% have to show he is fully recovered, however, I see no indication anywhere that he isn't.

Yea....not willing to hand anyone a job yet, but if he just does what he did last game I can't see how we can justify keeping Sheahan over him.

Yep, and given he is just returning to practice now, It might take a bit for him to get his cardio to 100% and the rust off. We will see. But I am confident he will get back to that point and be the guy he was previously. It might hamper his ability to take the next step forward this year though. 

[blue85gold]

13 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Booming punts is not something you really want to see often because most guys CAN actually outkick coverage if were to let them, however, when we are punting from our end zone and simply can't give up the single because of the scoreboard it would be really nice to have a guy who can uncork a 60 yarder and just pray that our cover team can do something about the return.

Ya that's the big situation that hurts us with Sheehan. If we're backed up with little time left in the half or game, the other team is pretty much always in FG range after the punt because they are catching it in our end. No change of punting out of trouble. 

[M.O.A.B.]

 

[Brandon]

DM on the cut list?   

[Booch]

19 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

 

Clercius...picking machine!!

[rebusrankin]

Brady being out is a concern. Mitchell being MIA is a what is happening..?

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, blue85gold said:

Ya that's the big situation that hurts us with Sheehan. If we're backed up with little time left in the half or game, the other team is pretty much always in FG range after the punt because they are catching it in our end. No change of punting out of trouble. 

Punting from the end zone or deep in their own end is a no win situation, even if the punter boots it 55 yds. it's still likely to end up near the 40 yd. line and points will be given up.  In that situation it's easy to blame the punter, but it's 100% the offences fault for not moving the ball out from the shadow of their goalposts.

[greenrider55]

Has Dillon Mitchell not had a great camp? I thought he was a sneaky good pickup for the Bombers.