Bigblue204 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 My favorite CFL off-season tradition is people predicting standings in January. Lol Piggy 1 and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: My favorite CFL off-season tradition is people predicting standings in January. Lol It's the greatest. We should add Fireball. Jesse, Piggy 1 and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Stickem said: LOL......'Not as bad as we think it is' ......for sure it's worse.....What's the ol saying..'none so blind as those that refuse to see'....No wonder that organization is in the mess it's in....That o line reeks and needs a complete overhaul The worst OL in living memory. O'Day & Dickenson should form a stand up comedy team with the things they say. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: My favorite CFL off-season tradition is people predicting standings in January. Lol Bombers are going 20 and 0 in 2023. Piggy 1 and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: My favorite CFL off-season tradition is people predicting standings in January. Lol Given the complete lack of star or even 2nd tier qbs available or the ability to build an ol over night in the cfl you can make a pretty accurate guess at who will suck at least. Noeller, Jesse and JCon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Given the complete lack of star or even 2nd tier qbs available or the ability to build an ol over night in the cfl you can make a pretty accurate guess at who will suck at least. At the very least...let free agency play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Noeller said: OL not that bad as long as we have Dan Clark!!! Wow, talk about a GM with his head in the clouds. He & Dickenson, what a pair.... Ha ha. Noeller and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said: At the very least...let free agency play out. Again the pieces aren’t available for a bad team to rebuild their ol or get a game changing qb in fa. Unfortunately the suck teams have only a lottery chance of getting to the play offs and that lotto ticket isn’t in cfl fa. 2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Wow, talk about a GM with his head in the clouds. He & Dickenson, what a pair.... Ha ha. I mean with that management no free agent class is going to save them. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Again the pieces aren’t available for a bad team to rebuild their ol or get a game changing qb in fa. Unfortunately the suck teams have only a lottery chance of getting to the play offs and that lotto ticket isn’t in cfl fa. I mean with that management no free agent class is going to save them. Riders management. Reynolds, O'Day & Dickenson. Edited January 16, 2023 by SpeedFlex27 wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 TIL... Collaros is making 600k. Cripes. Good for him I suppose. As long as we can afford to keep him upright. Here's the thing about the BLM "sweepstakes"...... Is he really valuable anymore?? He hasn't shown that he's an elite QB since his shoulder got all buggered up. Someone is going to wildly overpay for a truck with a LOT of city miles on it... bigg jay, Bigblue204 and rebusrankin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 I agree, BLM likely gets what 500k and I think he's damaged goods. Noeller and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 He would be alright in a good situation but man you better have a top OL and group of receivers given he can't run. Almost want to see him sign in sask and get killed. Bigblue204 and Piggy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: Again the pieces aren’t available for a bad team to rebuild their ol or get a game changing qb in fa. Unfortunately the suck teams have only a lottery chance of getting to the play offs and that lotto ticket isn’t in cfl fa. I mean with that management no free agent class is going to save them. Dennis, Couture are two pieces that could sure help...Trevor Harris while no superstar can win in this league. Lewis at WR, Demski... Etc etc. The pieces are very much available (assuming nothing changes). Add into the equation that it's not at all impossible for players to change teams and become productive (Yoshi?) and...at the very least let FA play out....holds true. 3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Wow, talk about a GM with his head in the clouds. He & Dickenson, what a pair.... Ha ha. It seems very much like damage control. Gotta try to keep those season ticket holders while they still can. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: He would be alright in a good situation but man you better have a top OL and group of receivers given he can't run. Almost want to see him sign in sask and get killed. He had that in Cgy and still didn't look very good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Noeller said: He had that in Cgy and still didn't look very good... he didn't look as good as he once did, big difference and it still makes him one of the better qbs in the league, which is a sad statement in itself. Honestly think he still would have been a better option for the Stamps than Maier but I guess we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: . It seems very much like damage control. Gotta try to keep those season ticket holders while they still can. Lol. Or such disrespect for the fanbase thinking that they're so stupid that O'Day feels he can lie to them. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 I'd roll with Vernon Adams over Fajardo without even thinking twice. Fajardo is back up material only at this point in time.. and that's if you can't find any sort of prospect to bring in. Bigblue204, Jesse and Tracker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Brandon said: I'd roll with Vernon Adams over Fajardo without even thinking twice. Fajardo is a career 3rd stringer who's been cosplaying a starter and is barely a back-up... and that's if you can't find any sort of prospect to bring in. FYP. Piggy 1, bigg jay, Tracker and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) On 2023-01-13 at 2:35 PM, Noeller said: they're gonna be left with VAJ and no chance are they paying 400 or 600k. The upside to VAJ, if there is one, is that it allows them to be active in FA and get some complimentary players. They'll still suck, because VAJ sucks, but it's a better position than Rourke and nobody else... VAJ's contract is 350k per. He was already paid his offseason bonus of 190k and half the remaining 150k last year when BC got him so he came in at around 75k for them last year, this year they gotta pay the whole enchilada. Edited January 16, 2023 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, TBURGESS said: Assuming he starts all the games & throws 20+ TD's, that's 350ishK. $250K more than VAJ. Based on QB salary, we're in a significantly worse spot SMS wise than the Lions. Burnham's $165K salary is already off the books, and the Lions say they won't go shopping for another top end receiver. My guess is they keep VAJ, they don't sign BLM or Faj-JJ & they are still in the top 3 in the west. We pay more for our starting QB than they do...advantage BC Our QB salary is only going up 50k over last year compared to 280k for the Lions....advantage Winnipeg We were 15-3 with a 550k QB last year, no reason to believe that the extra 50k we will spend on Collaros this year makes any difference. The Lions paid around a 100k on starting QB last year, they need to find 250k in their budget this year. Not as bad as it would have been if Rourke stayed and got his 600k but still some tough decisions for BC. They field pretty much exactly the same unit as last year but they need to chop 2-3 high end players. We don't. We have already incorporated ZC into our salary structure before. We did our sacrificing last year. BC is in a significantly tougher spot than we are. Edited January 16, 2023 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 Piggy 1, Tracker, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, blue_gold_84 said: There's one piece of the QB drama puzzle taken care of... Piggy 1 and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 18 hours ago, Noeller said: TIL... Collaros is making 600k. Cripes. Good for him I suppose. As long as we can afford to keep him upright. Here's the thing about the BLM "sweepstakes"...... Is he really valuable anymore?? He hasn't shown that he's an elite QB since his shoulder got all buggered up. Someone is going to wildly overpay for a truck with a LOT of city miles on it... I thought it averaged out to 550k. And I believe they used the remaining bonus cap to front load cash to further minimize his yearly cap hit. That’s what I recall atleast though cap info in the cfl is mysterious at the best of times. 36 minutes ago, GCn20 said: We pay more for our starting QB than they do...advantage BC Our QB salary is only going up 50k over last year compared to 280k for the Lions....advantage Winnipeg We were 15-3 with a 550k QB last year, no reason to believe that the extra 50k we will spend on Collaros this year makes any difference. The Lions paid around a 100k on starting QB last year, they need to find 250k in their budget this year. Not as bad as it would have been if Rourke stayed and got his 600k but still some tough decisions for BC. They field pretty much exactly the same unit as last year but they need to chop 2-3 high end players. We don't. We have already incorporated ZC into our salary structure before. We did our sacrificing last year. BC is in a significantly tougher spot than we are. The big difference imo is that it is much easier to budget around an expensive qb when you have a great team. Having a good team and then trying to add elite qb money is gonna be soo hard especially to do with out getting worse little on getting better. 11 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: There's one piece of the QB drama puzzle taken care of... Faj is going to be the funny one to watch imo. I like Masoli and ott has a lot going on for them. But man I wouldn’t want to rely on him to be qb1. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 2023-01-15 at 12:44 PM, Jpan85 said: Good spot to be a back up and learn from one of the best QB developers in the NFL Doug Peterson great coach to learn under... no doubt about that... but he's QB2 (at best) behind the guy expected to be the face of the franchise for the next decade... so not a great choice in terms of opportunity Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 So, expectations are sky high in Edmonton........ bb1 and Tracker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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