So we have 3 options in camp right now. Pros and cons of each:

1. Liegghio - the anointed one coming into camp. Did not survive that coronation out of camp, thrust into the FG role out of injury.
Pros - he can punt, so not going anywhere yet (still think he is going to get one blocked and doesn’t follow through on his kicks), has a decent leg for FGs and came through with a 4/4 game and a game winner in the last minute in the one game our kicking truly mattered.  
Cons - misses the makeable ones, especially converts from the middle of the field. Seems to get under the ball too much and sky them at times. For a supposed strong leg, his kickoffs don’t get that deep.

Crapigna - brought in to camp to save the day. Then hurt with people calling for a replacement anyway

Pros - a veteran with a super high career average of 88%, so no worries about long term yips with him.

Cons - for all his success, all I remember of him is the times he choked in the clutch or rang one off the post. Coach doesn’t seem to trust him outside of 40 yards, and watching him kick there may be credence to that line of thinking. Dead leg?

Mourtada - the saviour as judged from his workout videos. Then we saw him live.

Pros - strongest leg of the bunch. Save for the 3rd miss, every kick was totally straight, so a mechanical alignment issue as opposed to a banana hook problem.

Cons - if the issue was simple mis-reading  of the right hash mark, why did it not get corrected in practice or after the first miss? 
 

So who stays, or do we blow it up and bring in another? For now, I keep Liegghio as punter and let him work on his kicking in practice. Give Mourtada one chance to correct his alignment, but you know the boo birds will eat him up at home with even one more miss, and his face and body language last night make me wonder if he can handle the rejection. Crapigna does not have the distance to compete I fear. 

 

 

Edited September 19, 20214 yr by TrueBlue4ever

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The Blue Bomber kicking game. 

Looks like an upgrade

22 minutes ago, Nolby said:

Looks like an upgrade

Wise guy, eh? 

In the Freep today, O'Shea was quoted as expressing confidence in his kickers that they would work their way out of their current struggles.

Just now, Tracker said:

In the Freep today, O'Shea was quoted as expressing confidence in his kickers that they would work their way out of their current struggles.

The words are right but they're just out of order. 

 

Current kickers out of work. 

14 hours ago, Goldkobra said:

From what I've heard,  in the FIFO era, Castillo is regarded as someone who can FO.

I call BS on that. Considering he was here for a season and a half. They kept him after we picked up medlock and he made the team. If he was a FO guy, he wouldnt have been here on the PR for most of 15, then finished the year as our kicker, then come back in the offseason, made the team, and sat on the pr for half the year. He was released so he could catch on with another team and have a chance to play. Which happened the same week. 

I want to keep Liegghio, regardless of what else happens. I just think he needs some time and a good mentor. I liked the idea of The Crap coming in and working with him. I bet he would have been well trained, had there been a 2020 season and if Medlock returned. 

Edited September 20, 20214 yr by JCon

Just now, JCon said:

I want to keep Liegghio, regardless of what else happens. I just think he needs some time and a good mentor. I liked the idea of The Crap coming in and working with him. I bet he would have been well trained, had their been a 2020 season and if Medlock returned. 

Yeah legs isnt going any where. I like the way he bounced back after the illegal punt. Its probably not fair to say, but legs seems much more mentally tough than ali. Id be worried about how mourtada dealt with the misses. 

Medlock working with legs wouldve been great, for kicking and punting. Im still holding out a tiny bit of hope that at some point this year Medlock comes riding in to save the day. 

At this point, anyone think Ottawa would give up Ward for a high draft pick and/or one or 2 of our PR guys?

I was actually disappointed that Liegghio didn't get another chance this past weekend.  I thought he had worked out his issues after the first half of the Banjo Bowl and was going to be good to go.

2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

At this point, anyone think Ottawa would give up Ward for a high draft pick and/or one or 2 of our PR guys?

I think itd be hard to agree on value. a first round pick thats gonna be in the bottom of the round isnt gonna be that big for ott. But it is a lot to give up. Dedmon and aucliar would be nice pick ups to go along with ward. 

They could claim any one from our PR or try already. We'd probably need to include some other picks or value. 

Willing to let them let Legs develop. Ali can be given the old apple and road map.

Come playoff time it would be a bloody shame to how good we are on O and D for it to come down to one of these guys we currently have...

13 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Willing to let them let Legs develop. Ali can be given the old apple and road map.

I dont think legs should be or is ready to develop in all 3 roles though. His biggest troubles in the BJB was with a strong swirling wind.  I could kick the ever loving snot out of a ball. But I wouldnt have hit 1 in 100 fgs from 40. 

I think we will continue to see the 2 man job. Mourtada kicking off and hitting XPTs. I wouldnt let him kick FGs from any thing but head on though. 

Yeah, agree with that on Legs.

 

it would be fun to see both these guys turn it around, and be good players. but I read here, that Ali is thirty years old, so if that is the case, I can't see it for him. 

got to give legs a good chance. four for four including a game winner.

the guy in Ottawa, he's all they have. they wont part with him. he should be there for fifteen years.

 

 

Edited September 20, 20214 yr by Mark F

53 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Willing to let them let Legs develop. Ali can be given the old apple and road map.

 

30 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I dont think legs should be or is ready to develop in all 3 roles though. His biggest troubles in the BJB was with a strong swirling wind.  I could kick the ever loving snot out of a ball. But I wouldnt have hit 1 in 100 fgs from 40. 

I think we will continue to see the 2 man job. Mourtada kicking off and hitting XPTs. I wouldnt let him kick FGs from any thing but head on though. 

Since Liegghio is here no matter what as the punter, keep Ali around and let them battle in practice until one consistently outshines the other. Mourtada’s kickoffs were a big improvement over Liegghio, and his kicks were all pretty much straight (save for FG attempt 3, which was wide anyway off his foot). I still see his only issue being alignment off the hash mark, so let him correct that, or in the alternative  direct the snap closer to the centre of the field. Liegghio’s problems seem to be more than one thing (hooking his kicks, striking the ball too low and scooping it up short) and he is distracted enough with kickoffs going short or out of bounds and punts not landing between the hash mark and the side lines. If Ali cannot correct this seemingly one problem, then yeah he is done, but we have two weeks of practice to let the coaches work on it. 

Just now, Mark F said:

it would be fun to see both these guys turn it around, and be good players. but I read here, that Ali is thirty years old, so if that is the case, I can't see it for him. 

got to give legs a good chance. four for four including a game winner.

the guy in Ottawa, he's all they have. they wont part with him. he should be there for fifteen years.

 

 

31 even. They have richie leone punting who has kicked a bit, all be it at a westwood level of a accuracy. 

Id even take Leone to punt and let legs focus on kicks. Leone could KO, and kick XPTs if needed as well. 

Twitter says we signed this guy. Anyone know if he is any good?

1 minute ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Twitter says we signed this guy. Anyone know if he is any good?

So it’s the holder’s fault. I knew it! 
Cut McGuire!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Wait, that’s not what you meant?

Edited September 20, 20214 yr by TrueBlue4ever

I know this guy had a rough go in Miami and run ins with the law, but if he can still kick........?

How about her? At least when she misses I would be distracted by something else and not care. 

Or this guy? Would solve our “international” roster spot. Although now that CFL gambling is allowed, we might get into a “Pete Rose” situation  

 

1 hour ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

I know this guy had a rough go in Miami and run ins with the law, but if he can still kick........?

 

1 hour ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

I know this guy had a rough go in Miami and run ins with the law, but if he can still kick........?

Nice to know we can still laugh about this stuff. 

11 hours ago, Tracker said:

In the Freep today, O'Shea was quoted as expressing confidence in his kickers that they would work their way out of their current struggles.

He has no choice. 

1 minute ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

 

Nice to know we can still laugh about this stuff. 

Until it costs us a game. 

3 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Twitter says we signed this guy. Anyone know if he is any good?

Has potential ....though.......not so sure about the holder

 

 

 

 

 

 

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