Bigblue204 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Noeller said: What system??? It's the same players and a tweaked version of the old play book. But throw the play book out... Who needs it?? Just let him go out there and do what he does. It's basically sandlot football... If you don't see a reason to bring him in for two games, then go back and look at the highlight pack of his that I posted earlier in the thread. It's all you need to see. If he's dressing, he needs to know the play as well as whoever he's replacing. Injuries happen in game and if he has to take over due to injury....I want him to be up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: First of all, we aren't starting Strev. That would be too much to ask. Secondly even without intimate knowledge of our playbook he gives us a better shot to win the game than McGuire or Brown should Collaros get injured. But you bring him back mostly for his ability to come in for 6-10 plays and run over people. So if Zach gets hurt like Kevin Glenn did... then you run the same 6 short yardage plays in the Grey Cup? Wouldn't it make more sense to have McGuire who has been playing and learning our NEW system for the complete system and who can run every single play rather then a vanilla basic offense. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Nolby said: Dont forget that Winston Rose was away from the system and they plugged him in like he never left. Streveler could start next week if we played as backup. Yeah thats not at all the same. If anything it does show that Oshea is willing to bring a guy in and let him be on the roster over another guy who has been here all year. Which isn't always something he's done in the past. But a CB learning a roll under the same D is VERY different from QB learning the playbook in a different O...even of its just a bit different. Edited November 23, 2021 by Bigblue204 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Brandon said: So if Zach gets hurt like Kevin Glenn did... then you run the same 6 short yardage plays in the Grey Cup? Wouldn't it make more sense to have McGuire who has been playing and learning our NEW system for the complete system and who can run every single play rather then a vanilla basic offense. No. Strev has more experience in our system and with our players than McGuire. He has more playing time over the last two seasons. Starman115 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, GCn20 said: First of all, we aren't starting Strev. That would be too much to ask. Secondly even without intimate knowledge of our playbook he gives us a better shot to win the game than McGuire or Brown should Collaros get injured. But you bring him back mostly for his ability to come in for 6-10 plays and run over people. Everyone was so worried that Collaros would go down last week.....how has that changed for the WF? If Streveler is the back up, he's one play away from running the O. Whether Collaros starts or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, Jesse said: No. Strev has more experience in our system and with our players than McGuire. He has more playing time over the last two seasons. How much experience does Strev have running a Buck Pierce offense which is far different then a LaPolice offense, How many practices has he attended running this offense compared to McGuire? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jesse said: No. Strev has more experience in our system and with our players than McGuire. He has more playing time over the last two seasons. It might still be mostly the same system - but ZC runs it a lot differently. I mean, if it reverted back to mostly QB runs and check downs to the RB...the D would have to be very stout, and even then we might still lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 If Strev does sign (long shot at this point) could also dress 3 QB's but then you would lose a DI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 I wonder if they're waiving him just to put him back on the PR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JCon said: I wonder if they're waiving him just to put him back on the PR? They signed Trace McSorley off of the Baltimore practice roster so they had to make a move JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach17 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Brandon said: I watch real football yes, I do not base real life football with playing Madden video games and assuming QB's can pick up everything in one week. Most smart coaches wouldn't invest 2 years in a QB only to dump him for the possibility of signing a guy and expecting him to pick up a brand new offense within a week and learn the full play book. If it were so easy then why wouldn't Saskatchewan sign Strev and put him in as a starter against Calgary? There is talk in Saskatchewan about going after Strev if he clears NFL waivers. Harker got nicked last game. Also McGuire hurt his groin in practice last week and who knows if he will be healthy enough for those short yardage plays by the final. I’d sure enough rather want to have Strevler under center, even if he wasn’t able to grasp the new playbook than Dru Brown for a backup role in the WF. Geebrr, rebusrankin and Noeller 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Who's holding for Castillo now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, coach17 said: There is talk in Saskatchewan about going after Strev if he clears NFL waivers. Harker got nicked last game. Also McGuire hurt his groin in practice last week and who knows if he will be healthy enough for those short yardage plays by the final. I’d sure enough rather want to have Strevler under center, even if he wasn’t able to grasp the new playbook than Dru Brown for a backup role in the WF. I say put Stove in on short yardage... nobody is going to push that guy back a yard. AB BomberFan, WildPath and coach17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Does anybody even know if Streveler is vaccinated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, coach17 said: There is talk in Saskatchewan about going after Strev if he clears NFL waivers. Harker got nicked last game. Also McGuire hurt his groin in practice last week and who knows if he will be healthy enough for those short yardage plays by the final. I’d sure enough rather want to have Strevler under center, even if he wasn’t able to grasp the new playbook than Dru Brown for a backup role in the WF. He would have to want to play there. So that ain't happening. Also, imagine coming back from the NFL to backup Faj. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Place a call to Chris and see what his plans are....IF he can be installed as our backup pronto I could see a huge benefit....I wonder if we've kept track of him lately and were ready to ask him to return in the eventuality he was released....We sure have a glaring need for him considering the state of our backups...C'mon home Streve.....Does anyone think he'd consider Sask. over us....LOL...IF he comes north it will b here Edited November 23, 2021 by Stickem Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, JCon said: Who's holding for Castillo now? Liegghio. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Brandon said: How much experience does Strev have running a Buck Pierce offense which is far different then a LaPolice offense, How many practices has he attended running this offense compared to McGuire? I'm not too worried about that. Plops playbook for strevy was horrid. He got worse under plop. I think a limited book for him under buck is world's better than the fake rpo dink n dunk plop had him doing. How much time did collaros have practicing here before he rostered then started 10 days and a week? Edited November 23, 2021 by wbbfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Brandon said: So if Zach gets hurt like Kevin Glenn did... then you run the same 6 short yardage plays in the Grey Cup? Wouldn't it make more sense to have McGuire who has been playing and learning our NEW system for the complete system and who can run every single play rather then a vanilla basic offense. Did you watch McGuire run our offence? Also, our playbook has not changed that much. How we call plays and the freedom given to the QB has changed a lot but a lot of our offence is relatively the same under Pierce. 30 minutes ago, JCon said: I wonder if they're waiving him just to put him back on the PR? Doubtful. Would have been mentioned I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 blue_gold_84, Noeller, rebusrankin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, Mark H. said: It might still be mostly the same system - but ZC runs it a lot differently. I mean, if it reverted back to mostly QB runs and check downs to the RB...the D would have to be very stout, and even then we might still lose. How is that different than if McGuire or Brown has to play? BomberBall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: How is that different than if McGuire or Brown has to play? IDK. I haven't seen either of them play with the pass pro that ZC gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Brandon said: How much experience does Strev have running a Buck Pierce offense which is far different then a LaPolice offense, How many practices has he attended running this offense compared to McGuire? A Streveler package would be entirely different than anything we run with Collaros. Also, you are forgetting that Buck has complete access to the Strev playbook we ran in 2018/19 and that almost all of our offensive unit is very experienced in the Strev package offence. It would need a couple days of practice but it's mostly run plays and RPOs...it is not hard to get the timing down on that. 1 minute ago, Mark H. said: IDK. I haven't seen either of them play with the pass pro that ZC gets. Gimme a break. There was nothing wrong with the protection provided to either of them in their starts. 16 minutes ago, Stickem said: Place a call to Chris and see what his plans are....IF he can be installed as our backup pronto I could see a huge benefit....I wonder if we've kept track of him lately and were ready to ask him to return in the eventuality he was released....We sure have a glaring need for him considering the state of our backups...C'mon home Streve.....Does anyone think he'd consider Sask. over us....LOL...IF he comes north it will b here There is zero chance that Strev comes North for a GC run with Saskatchewan. The ONLY way he comes back to the CFL this season is if he has a hankering for a mid December GC parade down Portage and Main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Did you watch McGuire run our offence? Also, our playbook has not changed that much. How we call plays and the freedom given to the QB has changed a lot but a lot of our offence is relatively the same under Pierce. In a rain filled game where he was getting little protection yes I watched that game. I also watched every other game and have seen a much different passing attack and far more creativity in the running plays and much more misdirection all around. If what you are saying is true then basically you are saying that Pierce is running a similar offense to LaPolice and that had LaPo stayed we would of had the exact same success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Gimme a break. There was nothing wrong with the protection provided to either of them in their starts. That's too funny - try throwing a ball when the DL is getting pushed back into you. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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