Mark H. Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Goalie said: I've been told by nurse friends that the numbers are big time skewed because of the backlog and that most ppl in icu are unvaxxed with the random vaxxed individual with underlying health issues being the rest. I 100% believe that - thanks for the info. Noeller and Goalie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCJenks Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 For those wondering about 5 to 11 second dose intervals I suggested you go find Dr Reiner’s availability from last week. There is evidence that an 8 week interval will have the greatest overall efficacy. Shortening the interval might have a slight benefit in the short term but overall creates a deficit in protection. I guess if you believe Covid will be gone forever in a month go for it. My 9 yr old will wait his full 8 weeks. the watcher, Mark H., rebusrankin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, GCJenks said: For those wondering about 5 to 11 second dose intervals I suggested you go find Dr Reiner’s availability from last week. There is evidence that an 8 week interval will have the greatest overall efficacy. Shortening the interval might have a slight benefit in the short term but overall creates a deficit in protection. I guess if you believe Covid will be gone forever in a month go for it. My 9 yr old will wait his full 8 weeks. Doctor at RBC said 8 weeks when I took my 7 year old December 19 ish Mark H. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, GCJenks said: For those wondering about 5 to 11 second dose intervals I suggested you go find Dr Reiner’s availability from last week. There is evidence that an 8 week interval will have the greatest overall efficacy. Shortening the interval might have a slight benefit in the short term but overall creates a deficit in protection. I guess if you believe Covid will be gone forever in a month go for it. My 9 yr old will wait his full 8 weeks. Now - why can that not be the consistent message? * bangs head on wall* WildPath and GCJenks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Simple answer is a george Carlin quote from years and years ago Stupid people elect stupid politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCJenks Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Mark H. said: Now - why can that not be the consistent message? * bangs head on wall* This has been Dr Reiner’s message always. To me she is the best source of information that makes sense that we have. The worst part to me is that there is too much contradictory comment by others to see through it. rebusrankin and Mark H. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Reiner and Atwall over Roussin and his conservative overlords any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) The word of the day/week/month/year/decade is endemic. Edited January 5, 2022 by FrostyWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 16 hours ago, GCJenks said: For those wondering about 5 to 11 second dose intervals I suggested you go find Dr Reiner’s availability from last week. There is evidence that an 8 week interval will have the greatest overall efficacy. Shortening the interval might have a slight benefit in the short term but overall creates a deficit in protection. I guess if you believe Covid will be gone forever in a month go for it. My 9 yr old will wait his full 8 weeks. I am thinking of shortening my 5-11 yr olds interval to 7 weeks and getting their second shot this week. I have found numerous places where it states that waiting the full 8 weeks is better... but I have never seen any information as to HOW much better- no stats that I can find, at all. So.. is it a little bit better.... or a whole lot better? Super Duper Negatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, wanna-b-fanboy said: I am thinking of shortening my 5-11 yr olds interval to 7 weeks and getting their second shot this week. I have found numerous places where it states that waiting the full 8 weeks is better... but I have never seen any information as to HOW much better- no stats that I can find, at all. So.. is it a little bit better.... or a whole lot better? Doctor friend is lowering her kids to 6 weeks. She has to work, so they have to be in school. She says it's less effective but does provide more protection over one dose. At this point, it's near impossible to avoid getting Omicron, so minimizing the outcomes is the goal. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Noeller, Bigblue204 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'm mid 30s. Double vaxxed. No booster as not eligible yet for some reason In my humblest of opinions... omicron is the new flu or cold. Bottom line with me with the testing is if I'm ok enough to wait 8 hours then I'll just stay home until I feel better. But it's also minus 30 last couple weeks then shoots up to a seems way way warmer minus 10 or less for a few days... then back so tis the season. The flu season which is likely non existent tho with omi being the new flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 TPR is 40.3% provincially, 48% in Winnipeg. That's nuts. JCon, WildPath and Tracker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JCon said: Doctor friend is lowering her kids to 6 weeks. She has to work, so they have to be in school. She says it's less effective but does provide more protection over one dose. At this point, it's near impossible to avoid getting Omicron, so minimizing the outcomes is the goal. Yup. I have a doctor friend that did 4 weeks for his kids. My kids are getting their's tomorrow, at 6 weeks. Risk to kids is so low already, so short term protection for school (and youth sports) is our top priority. Combined with the fact that they will likely get boosters down the road anyways, I am not that worried about it. All the 8 week data is for adults, and the US is doing 3 weeks, so how bad can 6 be? 1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I am thinking of shortening my 5-11 yr olds interval to 7 weeks and getting their second shot this week. I have found numerous places where it states that waiting the full 8 weeks is better... but I have never seen any information as to HOW much better- no stats that I can find, at all. So.. is it a little bit better.... or a whole lot better? Just do it. It seems to be trending that way anyways, and Pfizer's (and CDC's) own numbers say 3 weeks. When they get a booster in 6 months will that one week really matter? Disclaimer: I'm just a rando on the internet, not a virologist, so take everything I say with a giant grain of salt. Edited January 5, 2022 by Super Duper Negatron Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Stretch said: TPR is 40.3% provincially, 48% in Winnipeg. That's nuts. Yes, it is but the context is important. You can't even get a test (PCR) unless you have a positive RAT, so we're not comparing apples to apples from the start of the pandemic to today. The Gov't has given up. Noeller, Bigblue204, WildPath and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, JCon said: Yes, it is but the context is important. You can't even get a test (PCR) unless you have a positive RAT, so we're not comparing apples to apples from the start of the pandemic to today. The Gov't has given up. That's interesting. I would think the TPR should then be higher than 40% I would assume there's still a backlog from the previous system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 the only number that really matters to me these days is hospitalizations and ICU admissions (and deaths, obviously...) Daily case counts are basically "everyone" at this point... Tracker, Bigblue204, Goalie and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/second-covid-19-vaccine-dose-children-eight-weeks-manitoba-1.6305266 Sounds like the province is catching up to parents and doctors. Edited January 6, 2022 by Super Duper Negatron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Noeller said: the only number that really matters to me these days is hospitalizations and ICU admissions (and deaths, obviously...) Daily case counts are basically "everyone" at this point... If there was only a way to keep the hospital numbers down and icu's for real emergencies. Noeller and WildPath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looks like BC has also thrown in the towel. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-s-top-doctor-i-want-to-get-out-of-the-public-health-order-business-1.5728055 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Novak Djokovic noted Anti-Vaxxer has had his visa cancelled and told to get out of Australia pronto, entitlement has it's limits when the public gets upset Wanna-B-Fanboy, blue_gold_84, Sard and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, bustamente said: Novak Djokovic noted Anti-Vaxxer has had his visa cancelled and told to get out of Australia pronto, entitlement has it's limits when the public gets upset Good, I hope they give him a swift kick in the balls on the way out. While practicing social distancing, of course. How in the f are there that many people with children in the 5 - 11 age group that haven't got their first shot? My daughter is currently 3 and I plan on booking her first shot on her 5th birthday. I wish we had a better option than just "welp hope our 3 year old doesn't catch this life altering virus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPath Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said: Good, I hope they give him a swift kick in the balls on the way out. While practicing social distancing, of course. How in the f are there that many people with children in the 5 - 11 age group that haven't got their first shot? My daughter is currently 3 and I plan on booking her first shot on her 5th birthday. I wish we had a better option than just "welp hope our 3 year old doesn't catch this life altering virus". Last I heard they were hoping for a vax for 6 months to five years for this summer. It was supposed to be early 2022, but the trials were showing it wasn't very effective. Sure hope my 9 month old doesn't have to wait 4 years. I believe the FP had a story about a vaccine being tested in Manitoba (as well as other areas) for kids as young as 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 11 hours ago, bustamente said: Novak Djokovic noted Anti-Vaxxer has had his visa cancelled and told to get out of Australia pronto, entitlement has it's limits when the public gets upset And now he gets to deal with the consequences of his stupidity: https://www.cbc.ca/sports/tennis/novak-djokovic-australian-open-exemption-update-1.6305775 bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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