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Mini Camp

...opening Wednesday in Florida. Ted Wyman:

 

BRADENTON, Fla. — Unable to secure a big-play receiver through free agency, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers will have to go the in-house route to fill a void that haunted them last season.

The process of unearthing that potential gem started last year when the Bombers brought in promising but CFL-untested receivers Corey Washington, Kenbrell Thompkins, Charles Nelson and Kenny Lawler.

It continues Wednesday and Thursday, when the Bombers’ scouts, coaches and management will take a look at 15 American receivers at a free-agent camp here at the IMG Academy.

It’s expected about seven of those pass-catchers will move on to the Bombers main camp — assuming the league’s labour impasse is resolved — in May.

“It’s generally a passing thing and that won’t change,” Bombers general manager Kyle Walters said of the mini-camp. “It’s heavily loaded on receivers and defensive backs.

“The goal is to find receivers who can help right away but the track record of the CFL shows that for a rookie receiver to come in and learn the playbook in a two-week training camp, it’s very difficult. When we look at these receivers, it’s less about ‘We think he’s gonna come in and start Day 1,’ it’s ‘We think this guy’s got a chance at some point during the year, once he learns everything and figures out what he’s supposed to do.’”

Of the 38 players invited to the camp, 29 will be either receivers or defensive backs. There will also be two quarterbacks, three running backs and four linebackers.

There will be no linemen or kickers and all of the players in the camp are true American rookies. Some are under contract, others are neg-list players, and still more are free agents who are in on a tryout basis.

The Bombers already have 16 receivers under contract and nine of them were with the team last year. However, only three of those players — Darvin Adams, Drew Wolitarsky and Nic Demski — were season-long starters.

Thompkins saw the most playing time among the others, making 29 catches for 421 yards and one touchdown in 12 games, while Washington got into three games and Nelson got into one. The Bombers also have second-year Canadians Daniel Petermann and Rashaun Simonise in the mix and both should push for more playing time.

In all likelihood, one or two of those players will be starters in 2019, though there is certain to be fierce competition throughout this mini-camp and the full training camp.

“The biggest one for the receivers this year is the guys who we had last year that were all in their first year and ended the year with the team,” Walters said. “Those are the guys I expect to step forward. Guys like Corey Washington, Kenbrell Thompkins, Charles Nelson, Kenny Lawler. Those guys made good impressions on us last year in their first year and we expect them to make the big jump. They were the names last year that jumped out. I think those are the young guys that are going to have the advantage, strictly based on seniority.”

On the other side of the ball, the Bombers have a whopping 21 defensive backs under contract and nine of them are returning. With the departures of Chris Randle (released, signed with Ottawa), Kevin Fogg (signed as free agent with Toronto) and Taylor Loffler (signed as free agent with Montreal), the Bombers have holes to fill, but have a decent base with veterans Brandon Alexander, Marcus Sayles, Anthony Gaitor, Chandler Fenner and Jeff Hecht all returning.

“We hope there are some tough decisions at the end of this because that means we’ve got a lot of good guys and only a few of them are able to make it to training camp,” Walters said.

“We do want to see guys physically taxed for a couple of days. We want to put them through the fitness tests and give them the once-over. A big part of this is to see who can handle the fitness component. If you struggle getting through a couple-day camp, with full training camp just three weeks away … they need to be in good shape and be ready to compete, which will be a big part of the evaluation process.”

This is the first time in five years that the Bombers have held their mini-camp in Florida. For the last few years, the camp has been held at Investors Group Field and has included a mix of American and Canadian rookies, all of the quarterbacks and some veterans.

Because of the contentious collective bargaining agreement negotiations between the CFL and the Players Association, this year’s camp is limited to first-year players.

That means the quarterbacks in mini-camp will be rookie Bryan Schor from James Madison and another pivot that will be added at the last minute.

“They’ll get plenty of work,” Walters said. “I said to (assistant general manager) Danny (McManus) that he might have to chuck the ball around, or (quarterbacks coach) Buck (Pierce). We’ve got some backup arms in house, if needed.”

While there are no guarantees the Bombers will find stars or even starters through this camp, these kinds of players have become vital to CFL teams in dealing with the salary cap.

“You’re gonna see around the league, I think, with the escalating salaries, that something’s got to go,” Walters said. “Teams are gonna be relying on a lot of these young guys to come in and contribute. We’re no different. We’ve had young guys in the secondary come in and play, linebackers, D-linemen.

“From the American side, you have to be able to rely on your scouting department. With the way we’re operating the salary cap, even with guys getting certain raises on our team, then something’s got to give. You need to rely on some young guys, I call them first-contract players, to come in and contribute.”

The job of finding the best first-contract players available falls to McManus, who is director of U.S. scouting, director of player personnel Ted Goveia and director of college scouting Ryan Rigmaiden.

Now they have a chance to see how the players move in person, how they show the athletic ability that was previously seen on tape. Some of these players haven’t been playing football since they got cut from an NFL camp. They’ve been training and but now it’s about getting back into the mould of playing football. Are they able to do some of the basic things that the coaches ask them to do? Follow directions? Line up where they are supposed to? Do their job?

“This is the slowest it will ever get during the season as far as your instruction,” McManus said. “You’re gonna have some nice one-on-one instruction with the coaches. Once you get into rookie camp, the speed picks up a little bit more. Once main camp starts, things go 100 miles an hour. If you’re not on top of it as a young player right now at this camp, you’ll be lost by the time we get to the middle of May and the veterans come in.”

The scouts have had a challenging year, with the creation and demise of the Alliance of American Football and plans for a re-boot of the XFL adding to an already packed scouting season.

The AAF training camp and season may have actually helped the scouts identify some potential CFL players and Walters expects a few players from the now suspended league to be at mini-camp.

“Ted and Danny and Ryan, they’ve done the legwork on these guys,” Walters said. “Now it’s a chance for them to see them in person. The scouting has been going on for a couple of years with some of these guys and we are finally getting them in. We haven’t seen them play a lot recently, so it will be a good chance for those guys to see them.

“‘Here’s what these players have done in the past and maybe they don’t look 100% in game shape, but you saw glimmers of what we saw. This guy has a huge upside, he’s just out of shape or he’s rusty.’

“It’s an interesting process to not just go with the top five guys. It’s the top five guys that might be lifting the Grey Cup — helping us win the Grey Cup — not just winning the free agent camp.”

BLUE BOMBERS MINI-CAMP ROSTER

At Bradenton, Fla., April 24-25

Player                          Pos      Ht        Wt       Age      College

Malik Boynton           DB       6-0      190     22       Austin Peay

Terrance Baldwin      DB       5-10    180     22       West Liberty

Malik Reaves              DB       6-2      200     23       Villanova

Christian Boutte        DB       5-10    190     23       Nicholls State

Joe Este                      DB       5-11    200     24       Tennessee Martin

Eric Patterson            DB       5-11    195     26       Ball State

Mykkele Thompson  DB       6-1      195     25       Texas

Jimmy Pruitt              DB       6-0      205     26       San Jose State

Amari Coleman          DB       5-11    188     22       Central Michigan

Chinedu Okparaku    LB        6-1      210     22       Fairmont State

Dale Warren               LB        6-0      225     23       Chatanooga

Otha Peters                LB        6-0      235     25       Louisiana-Lafayette

Jarnor Jones              LB        6-3      210     24       Iowa State

Bryan Schor               QB       6-2      215     24       James Madison

Jalen Simmons          RB       5-8      205     27       South Carolina State

Larry Rose                  RB       5-11    195     23        New Mexico State

Marquell Cartwright  RB       5-8      203     NA       North Carolina A&T

Dom Williams             WR      6-2      200     26       Washington State

Garrett Johnson        WR      5-11    175     23        Kentucky

Rasheed Bailey          WR      6-2      200     25       Delaware Valley State

Evan Clark                  WR      5-10    190     23       St. John’s

Tim Wilson                 WR      5-9      170     25       East Stroudsburg

Kenny Walker             WR      5-9      188     25       UCLA

Dennis Parks              WR      6-0      200     24       Rice

*At least 16 more players to be added Wednesday

Twyman@postmedia.com

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1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

I have no idea who to pull for, but it’s got to be a good sign...right?

 

It's a sign, alright.

18 hours ago, Noeller said:

ahhhh......that's kind of a shame..... #NeckBeard #TopKnot

 

15 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

I'm not sure I can cheer for a guy with a topnot.

Did I miss something... isn't this hair cut called a man bun?

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8 minutes ago, bearpants said:

 

Did I miss something... isn't this hair cut called a man bun?

I believe those are different things, but don't quote me...I don't know the first thing about fashion. All I know is that if Josh Donaldson wasn't so damn good at baseball for the Jays, I definitely wouldn't have been cheering for him. Bighill, for the Bombers, too...........blech.

46 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I believe those are different things, but don't quote me...I don't know the first thing about fashion. All I know is that if Josh Donaldson wasn't so damn good at baseball for the Jays, I definitely wouldn't have been cheering for him. Bighill, for the Bombers, too...........blech.

Bouncers call it "a handle"

7 hours ago, Tracker said:

 

In the report, there was a line that was easy to miss. Apparently Johnny Manziel went out of his way to arrange and pay for several teammates on his AAFL team to be able to eat and have a place to stay. A glimmer of hope that Manziel may actually be a decent human being at times.

I am not surprised.  I have heard lots of former teammates say that he is a great guy.  He is just lazy and has some history with dependency.

Question for you guys.  With all the attention Danny Mac has been getting lately on 3downnation and Bluebombers.com has he recruited into the CFL one top notch offensive player?  I feel like he's found some defensive gems but overall our American scouting has been sub-par.  Walters has been finding more all-stars in the Canadian draft then our American scouting department has done.   When I look at the Americans we have on offense they are all free agent signings or guys we got in trade. Stanley Bryant, Hardrick, Nichols (trade), and Adams.  That's something that's going to have to change very quickly or this team is going to be in trouble.  Yes, there are a couple of promising backups in Streveler and Flanders but nothing impacting our starting offense has come from our American scouting department.  Am I wrong?  And if im not how is the possible?

6 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

Question for you guys.  With all the attention Danny Mac has been getting lately on 3downnation and Bluebombers.com has he recruited into the CFL one top notch offensive player?  I feel like he's found some defensive gems but overall our American scouting has been sub-par.  Walters has been finding more all-stars in the Canadian draft then our American scouting department has done.   When I look at the Americans we have on offense they are all free agent signings or guys we got in trade. Stanley Bryant, Hardrick, Nichols (trade), and Adams.  That's something that's going to have to change very quickly or this team is going to be in trouble.  Yes, there are a couple of promising backups in Streveler and Flanders but nothing impacting our starting offense has come from our American scouting department.  Am I wrong?  And if im not how is the possible?

You mean future Starting All Star QB :D

1 hour ago, Colin Unger said:

Question for you guys.  With all the attention Danny Mac has been getting lately on 3downnation and Bluebombers.com has he recruited into the CFL one top notch offensive player?  I feel like he's found some defensive gems but overall our American scouting has been sub-par.  Walters has been finding more all-stars in the Canadian draft then our American scouting department has done.   When I look at the Americans we have on offense they are all free agent signings or guys we got in trade. Stanley Bryant, Hardrick, Nichols (trade), and Adams.  That's something that's going to have to change very quickly or this team is going to be in trouble.  Yes, there are a couple of promising backups in Streveler and Flanders but nothing impacting our starting offense has come from our American scouting department.  Am I wrong?  And if im not how is the possible?

Nope, you're bang on.

👁‍🗨A little Bailey with my coffee please...

He didn’t make a mistake. He did everything right,” Bombers offensive coordinator Paul LaPolice said of Bailey. “Every rep he ran at 100 miles per hour, he caught almost every ball thrown to him. You always talk to these guys about having staying power. You can’t be great Day 1 and average Day 2, great Day 3, average Day… you have to be great every day and every rep he had he did very well.

“He’s got good speed and picked up the waggle right away. He had a good camp.”

16 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

Question for you guys.  With all the attention Danny Mac has been getting lately on 3downnation and Bluebombers.com has he recruited into the CFL one top notch offensive player?  I feel like he's found some defensive gems but overall our American scouting has been sub-par.  Walters has been finding more all-stars in the Canadian draft then our American scouting department has done.   When I look at the Americans we have on offense they are all free agent signings or guys we got in trade. Stanley Bryant, Hardrick, Nichols (trade), and Adams.  That's something that's going to have to change very quickly or this team is going to be in trouble.  Yes, there are a couple of promising backups in Streveler and Flanders but nothing impacting our starting offense has come from our American scouting department.  Am I wrong?  And if im not how is the possible?

Offensive? No, not really but then again, you're basically asking "has he found a receiver" because we haven't really had a need for American offensive linemen or running backs.

 

5 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

👁‍🗨A little Bailey with my coffee please...

He didn’t make a mistake. He did everything right,” Bombers offensive coordinator Paul LaPolice said of Bailey. “Every rep he ran at 100 miles per hour, he caught almost every ball thrown to him. You always talk to these guys about having staying power. You can’t be great Day 1 and average Day 2, great Day 3, average Day… you have to be great every day and every rep he had he did very well.

“He’s got good speed and picked up the waggle right away. He had a good camp.”

That's nice and everything but how many times have we got our hopes up for a import receiver coming to cmp to see them either not make it thru rookie camp or getting released early in to camp.  So Colin you're bang on!  Every other team has found at least 1 or 2 really good receivers in the past couple of seasons.

It is a problem and I've said it for the last couple of years that we need to make some changes to our scouting staff. 

Everyone needs hope. Without hope there is no will. Nothing driving us. It’s what keeps us going.

Expectations on the other hand....lower expectations lead to less disappointment.

Travis Bond was a pretty solid find in 2016. I'd argue he'd be one top notch offensive player (if the only one)

2 hours ago, B-F-F-C said:

That's nice and everything but how many times have we got our hopes up for a import receiver coming to cmp to see them either not make it thru rookie camp or getting released early in to camp.  So Colin you're bang on!  Every other team has found at least 1 or 2 really good receivers in the past couple of seasons.

It is a problem and I've said it for the last couple of years that we need to make some changes to our scouting staff. 

I don’t care.

It is all about getting our hopes up. - We’re fans.

I want to hear nothing but good things that can happen in the coming year because we certainly hear about all the bad things that happen along the way.

16 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

I don’t care.

It is all about getting our hopes up. - We’re fans.

I want to hear nothing but good things that can happen in the coming year because we certainly hear about all the bad things that happen along the way.

I don’t have an issue with these positive team produced fluff pieces. My issue is that we get our hopes up and all these prospects fizzle out or just aren’t difference makers.  When was the last time one of our receivers was courted by and jumped to the NFL? 

That right there is an indictment on our scouting of receivers. 

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