kelownabomberfan Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 The deep divisions that have defined American politics in the era of President Trump played out across the country in Tuesday’s midterm elections, as Democrats scored victories in key races in Republican-held suburban House districts but ran into a wall of opposition in red-state Senate contests. All year long, Democrats talked optimistically about a blue wave that they believed was building around the country, one powerful enough to flip control of the House and even, against the odds, put the Senate in play as well. But a somewhat different reality began to set in early in the evening as the familiar contours of red and blue America powerfully reasserted themselves. A change in the balance of power in the House would represent a pulling back from the president by key parts of the electorate, particularly by female voters. That alone could have a significant effect on the second half of Trump’s first term, particularly in Washington. But the overall voting patterns in House, Senate and gubernatorial contests signaled that the differences and divisions that have defined the country during Trump’s presidency remain and seemingly are growing stronger. That sets the stage for a contentious and competitive presidential election two years from now, with the stakes now higher than ever. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/a-split-america-reasserts-its-divisions-in-the-midterm-elections/ar-BBPrO5T?ocid=spartanntp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 54 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: You came here to do your usual thing where you distract and downplay out of some weird sense of emotional fealty to Trump. or I came to point out a fact about the Canadian and US voting patterns. Another option. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 51 minutes ago, 17to85 said: You ask Republicans and they would certainly say that. LOL yeah, and that's not really a fair assessment, especially when you look back at some of the awful presidents that have existed in American history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Hey let’s talk about Obama. Nothing else to talk about. Oh wait That would sure sting if you have an emotional connection to trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Hey let’s talk about Obama. Nothing else to talk about. Oh wait That would sure sting if you have an emotional connection to trump. I guess so. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Anybody else catch that presser? My goodness... The material writes itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Anybody else catch that presser? My goodness... The material writes itself! President is a transparent blowhard and a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 This was one of the great results Jacquie, JCon, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Edited November 7, 2018 by The Unknown Poster blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Sessions resigned at Trump's request. Mueller will be acting now, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JCon said: Sessions resigned at Trump's request. Mueller will be acting now, I guess. Matthew Whitaker is the acting AG now... Here is a sample of his views: https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html I wonder why trump chose him. Edited November 7, 2018 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Matthew Whitaker is the acting AG now... Here is a sample of his views: https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html I wonder why trump chose him. And, Rosenstein is no longer overseeing the Mueller investigation, by the sounds of things. Something just hit the fan. Edited November 7, 2018 by JCon The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, JCon said: And, Rosenthal is no longer overseeing the Mueller investigation, by the sounds of things. Something just hit the fan. Wait What? Rosenstien is not in charge of the Investigation anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, wanna-b-fanboy said: Wait What? Rosenstien is not in charge of the Investigation anymore? Correct. Rosenstein only oversaw it because Sessions recused himself. Whitaker will not be doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, JCon said: Correct. Rosenstein only oversaw it because Sessions recused himself. Whitaker will not be doing that. Wow. Here. We. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 It was well known Trump was just waiting for mid-terms to be over to "fire" Sessions. The plan is likely to either fire or hamstring Mueller. It will be interesting if Whitaker also recuses himself. As Sessions Chief of Staff, I'd think he'd want to but Trump was steamed over the recusal and wants an AG he can control. The only reason Rod Rosenstein handles the Mueller case is because Sessions recused himself. If the new AG has no conflict, he'd be in charge. Will also be interesting to see if Rod is fired or resigns. And what fail safes Mueller has in place in the event of his dismissal. Knowing the House is gunning for him Trump may simply look to his new AG to "control" Mueller and demand it wrap up. On the other hand, he might figure if the Dems are coming for him, to fire Meuller now. Dems dont take over til January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Matthew Whitaker is the acting AG now... Here is a sample of his views: https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html I wonder why trump chose him. I meant acting as in doing something, not acting AG. That would a whole lot of weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Mueller kept quiet during the election out of loyalty to DOJ policy. So we can assume there were plenty of things going on behind closed doors. There are rumors Don Jr has either been indicted or will soon be. Trump could order Whitaker to fire Meuller right now. That would set up a constitutional crises. But the Dems cant act until January. So I wonder...would Trump order the DOJ to fire Mueller now and go about destroying his files to make it difficult for the House in January? Hopefully Mueller has sealed indictments for everyone warranted. Referring whatever he can to the Southern District would help to since its out of Trump's reach,. Edited November 7, 2018 by The Unknown Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 What a crazy situation. I almost can't believe it's happening. But, you know, Murica. Trump is such a piece of garbage, for so many reasons. And those that support him, well... blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: You and I are of the same mind. I accept that people disagree but I find it very difficult to understand why someone would support an obvious idiot who is also criminal, racist, misogynistic, a serial harasser etc. If none of those are a red line, then nothing is. And that speaks to the character of those people more than anything. If being conservative means I have to accept & support Trump then that means I never vote again. There are a lot of good men & women in the United States who are principled conservatives & would never act the way he does. Hence, I'd be Independent. I personally don't think Trump will run in 2020. I hope he's on his way out. The Unknown Poster, Mark H. and JCon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If being conservative means I have to accept & support Trump then that means I never vote again. There are a lot of good men & women in the United States who are principled conservatives & would never act the way he does. Hence, I'd be Independent. I personally don't think Trump will run in 2020. I hope he's on his way out. It's ridiculous. Conservatism is dead in the US (right now). You either vote with the racist papaya or vote against him, likely a non-conservative. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, JCon said: What a crazy situation. I almost can't believe it's happening. But, you know, Murica. Trump is such a piece of garbage, for so many reasons. And those that support him, well... JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Good for the Dems but too bad about the Senate they won't really have any power to do anything but fire up Trumps base if they are not careful. Old Mitch is already laying the ground work for that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, JCon said: It's ridiculous. Conservatism is dead in the US (right now). You either vote with the racist papaya or vote against him, likely a non-conservative. When, back in the day..... "Compassionate Conservatism" didn't get any traction......the Republicans over time, have just completely gone in the other direction...... with this current bigoted, xenophobic, dog whistling, nationalism. Trump attracts alt-right types like flies - and the people in the GOP, who should know better.....have turned themselves into simply lapdogs, spear carriers, and lackeys for someone (Trump) who is indifferent to them, when not actually holding them in contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 This new acting AG has to recuse himself based on statements he has said in the past, of course that wont happen why else would Trump put him in that position, Mueller investigation may never see the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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