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[The Unknown Poster]

 

[JCon]

4 hours ago, bustamente said:

Midterm elections have come and gone and it seems like the migrant caravan has disappeared from worrying Cadet Bone spurs.and his state run tv network

The caravan will be back in the news as soon as the indictments start to fly. 

We'll get Fox reporting live from the frontline of the caravan insurgency. 

[bustamente]

There are still undecided races for the House, many leading towards the Democrats, if they get the majority of the remaining seats Blue Wave would be a correct term of what happened on Tuesday.

[bustamente]

26 minutes ago, JCon said:

The caravan will be back in the news as soon as the indictments start to fly. 

We'll get Fox reporting live from the frontline of the caravan insurgency. 

[jazzsax]

11 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I don't think legislation for gun control is the answer, there is a root issue here- but sane gun control measures are part of the solution.

ONe thing I've noticed....

Most of the issues with guns are in fairly liberal / blue states. How often do you hear about mass shooting in the last 5-10 years in Red states? Just doesn't happen. 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

9 minutes ago, jazzsax said:

ONe thing I've noticed....

Most of the issues with guns are in fairly liberal / blue states. How often do you hear about mass shooting in the last 5-10 years in Red states? Just doesn't happen. 

Hmmm. Can't find facts or stats to either prove or disprove whatbyouvare saying. 

 

Interestingly enough, states that have enacted magazine restrictions are associated with fewer mass shooting ...

[blue_gold_84]

10 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Hmmm. Can't find facts or stats to either prove or disprove whatbyouvare saying. 

Here ya go: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

Looks like this needless stupidity happens all over the US. Gun violence doesn't discern political affiliation.

If anything, it's simply more prevalent where populations are higher.

Edited November 9, 2018 by blue_gold_84
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[The Unknown Poster]

Apparently  the White House wasn’t aware of Whitaker’s numerous comments about the special counsel investigation and have been caught off guard. 

Which is weird since the obvious plot is a slow motion Saturday night massacre.  The legality of appointing Whitaker acting AG is open to debate. It’s suppoaed to be someone who had senate confirmation (the obvious choice being Rosenstein). 

To do an end run around Rosenstein they went with Whitaker who has never been confirmed.  

Growing demand for him to recuse himself as well.  

 

[The Unknown Poster]

Do we have a face palm emoticon 

 

[Wideleft]

12 hours ago, jazzsax said:

ONe thing I've noticed....

Most of the issues with guns are in fairly liberal / blue states. How often do you hear about mass shooting in the last 5-10 years in Red states? Just doesn't happen. 

Yeah, really it does happen.  I'll even highlight the examples for you that occured in the last 10 years.

Here's a list of deadliest Top 10 U.S. shootings, with their state house and state senate control (at the time) Governor (at the time).  

1. Las Vegas, Nevada (2017):  59 dead.  Divided State Government, Republican Governor.
2. Pulse Nightclub, Orlando, Florida (2016) 49 dead.  Republican control of State Senate and House.  Republican Governor 
3. Virginia Tech, Virginia.(2007) 32 Dead. Republican Senate and House.  Democratic Governor,
4. Sandy Hook, Connecticut (2012)  26 Dead.  Democrat trifecta
5. Texas First Baptist Church (2017) 26 Dead.  Republican Trifecta
6. Luby's Massacre, Killeen Texas. (1991) 23 Dead.  Democrat trifecta.
7. San Ysidro McDonalds, San Diego, California. (1984)  21 Dead.   Democrat House and Senate. Republican Governor.
8. Parkland High School.  Florida (2018)  Republican Trifecta.
9. United States Postal Service.  Edmond Oklahoma (1986)  14 Dead.  Democrat trifecta.  
10. San Bernadino, California. (2015).  14 Dead.  Democrat trifecta.

More examples from just this year:

1. Tallahasee Yoga Studio, (Nov 2). 3 dead, 5 injured.  Republican trifecta
2. Florence, South Carolina (Oct 3).  1 dead, 7 injured.  Republican trifecta.
3. Cincinnati, Ohio (Sept 6) 4 dead, 2 injured.  Republican trifecta.
4. Jacksonville, Florida (Aug 26)  3 dead, 9 injured.  Republican trifecta.
5. Scottsdale, Arizona (May 30-June 4)   7 dead.  Republican trifecta.
6. Sante Fe, Texas (May 18) 10 dead, 14 injured.  Republican trifecta.
7. Nashville Waffle House, Tennessee (April 22)  4 dead, 2 injured.  Republican trifecta.
8. Benton, Kentucky (Jan 23)  2 dead, 16 injured.  Republican trifecta.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Wideleft

[Wideleft]

15 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

 

More examples from just this year:

1. Tallahasee Yoga Studio, (Nov 2). 3 dead, 5 injured.  Republican trifecta
2. Florence, South Carolina (Oct 3).  1 dead, 7 injured.  Republican trifecta.
3. Cincinnati, Ohio (Sept 6) 4 dead, 2 injured.  Republican trifecta.
4. Jacksonville, Florida (Aug 26)  3 dead, 9 injured.  Republican trifecta.
5. Scottsdale, Arizona (May 30-June 4)   7 dead.  Republican trifecta.
6. Sante Fe, Texas (May 18) 10 dead, 14 injured.  Republican trifecta.
7. Nashville Waffle House, Tennessee (April 22)  4 dead, 2 injured.  Republican trifecta.
8. Benton, Kentucky (Jan 23)  2 dead, 16 injured.  Republican trifecta.

 

 

1. Florida permits concealed carry with permit
2. South Carolina permits concealed carry
3. Ohio permits open carry and concealed carry with permit
4. See 1
5. Arizona: unrestricted concealed and open carry
6. Texas: open and concealed with permit
7. Tennessee:  open and concealed with permit.
8. Kentucky:  unrestricted open carry, concealed with permit.

[do or die]

Trouble is....I could literally arm myself like Sgt. Rock, under permit

[JCon]

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Trouble is....I could literally arm myself like Sgt. Rock, under permit

And if you're arming yourself, I best arm myself too. 

[do or die]

Well you had better arm yourself....if you are going to arm yourself...... because you think I will arm myself..... because I think you will arm yourself......

[JCon]

5 minutes ago, do or die said:

Well you had better arm yourself....if you are going to arm yourself...... because you think I will arm myself..... because I think you will arm yourself......

I'm going to arm my kids, just in case. They may need to avenge me. 

[Wideleft]

3 minutes ago, do or die said:

Well you had better arm yourself....if you are going to arm yourself...... because you think I will arm myself..... because I think you will arm yourself......

Someone on twitter yesterday was arguing that mental health checks for firearm ownership was a bad idea because it would leave the mentally ill unable to defend themselves.  My inference is that the spouse and children would necessarily have to arm themselves for protection from mentally distressed parent.  I really don't get why Americans are so scared.  Their paranoia alone should disqualify them from gun ownership.

[The Unknown Poster]

Just now, Wideleft said:

Someone on twitter yesterday was arguing that mental health checks for firearm ownership was a bad idea because it would leave the mentally ill unable to defend themselves.  My inference is that the spouse and children would necessarily have to arm themselves for protection from mentally distressed parent.  I really don't get why Americans are so scared.  Their paranoia alone should disqualify them from gun ownership.

Americans (or at least the pro gun nuts) are so self absorbed.  If the idea that unarmed people are easy pickings then in nations with gun control, there should be tons of murders.  There isnt.  They need to wake up.

[The Unknown Poster]

McMahon’s getting closer to the political elite. 

 

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Americans (or at least the pro gun nuts) are so self absorbed.  If the idea that unarmed people are easy pickings then in nations with gun control, there should be tons of murders.  There isnt.  They need to wake up.

Too many post-Apocalyptic and alien invasion movies.

[The Unknown Poster]

Stupid answer really 

 

[blue_gold_84]

He's such a vile, crude, petulant, uncouth pile of scum.

[Mark F]

Florida senate election is going to be interesting. Probably some others as well.

 

"Aboard Air Force One late Friday morning, Trump said he would also mount a legal challenge. 

“As soon as Democrats sent their best Election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias, to Broward County they miraculously started finding Democrat votes,” the president tweeted. “Don’t worry, Florida – I am sending much better lawyers to expose the FRAUD!”

One of his fundamental qualities, Trump  sets the table for violence.

If he wasn't President. he'd just be a figure of slapstick comedy.  

today 

"President Trump said multiple times today: “I don’t know Matt Whitaker.” But during a phone interview with “Fox & Friends” on Oct. 11, he said, “I can tell you Matt Whitaker’s a great guy. I mean, I know Matt Whitaker.”

Edited November 9, 2018 by Mark F

[The Unknown Poster]

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As a presidential candidate in August 2015, Donald Trump huddled with a longtime friend, media executive David Pecker, in his cluttered 26th floor Trump Tower office and made a request.

What can you do to help my campaign? he asked, according to people familiar with the meeting.

Mr. Pecker, chief executive of American Media Inc., offered to use his National Enquirer tabloid to buy the silence of women if they tried to publicize alleged sexual encounters with Mr. Trump.

The Wall Street Journal found that Mr. Trump was involved in or briefed on nearly every step of the agreements. He directed deals in phone calls and meetings with his self-described fixer, Michael Cohen, and others. The U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan has gathered evidence of Mr. Trump’s participation in the transactions.

When Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty that month to campaign-finance violations, prosecutors filed a 22-page charging document asserting that Mr. Cohen “coordinated with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments.”

The unnamed campaign member or members referred to Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the document.

Mr. Cohen, who implicated the president in his crimes when he pleaded guilty in August, has met with investigators for Mr. Mueller and with federal prosecutors in New York, seeking to provide information that could mitigate his sentence, which is scheduled for Dec. 12.

Mr. Cohen asked American Media to buy Ms. Clifford’s story. Mr. Pecker refused on the grounds that he didn’t want his company to pay a porn star.

Messrs. Cohen and Trump would have to handle the payment themselves. Mr. Cohen told federal prosecutors he relayed the news to Mr. Trump in his Trump Tower office in the second week of October 2016.

That is when Mr. Trump, smarting from the “Access Hollywood” tape, told Mr. Cohen to “get it done,” according to Mr. Cohen’s account to prosecutors.

Within days, Mr. Cohen and Mr. Davidson had negotiated a nondisclosure agreement for Ms. Clifford.

The money was slow in coming because Mr. Trump, Mr. Cohen and the longtime chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, Allen Weisselberg, couldn’t settle on a plan for getting it to Mr. Davidson without anyone being able to trace it back to Mr. Trump, according to Mr. Cohen’s account to prosecutors. Among the options they considered: routing the payment through a Trump-owned property, Mr. Cohen told prosecutors.

Mr. Cohen offered a suggestion: Why not have Mr. Weisselberg make the payment? “You’re the CFO,” he told the longtime Trump aide, according to Mr. Cohen’s account to prosecutors. “You pay this.” Mr. Weisselberg said he couldn’t come up with the money.

Mr. Cohen had told Mr. Davidson to expect a $130,000 wire transfer by Oct. 14, but missed the deadline, as well as an extension, prompting Ms. Clifford to walk away.

While Mr. Cohen considered a path forward, he offered excuses to Ms. Clifford’s camp. He told Mr. Davidson banks were closed for the Jewish holidays and he couldn’t reach Mr. Trump on the campaign trail. “My guy is in five states today,” Mr. Cohen said.

Mr. Davidson told Mr. Howard on Oct. 25, 2016, that Ms. Clifford would soon speak publicly. Mr. Howard texted Mr. Cohen that they needed to coordinate “or it could look awfully bad for everyone.”

In a tense three-way call on an encrypted app, Messrs. Pecker and Howard urged Mr. Cohen to complete the deal before Ms. Clifford disclosed the hush-money negotiations.

Out of options and time, Mr. Cohen decided to cover the payment himself. “F— it, I’m just going to do it,” he told Mr. Davidson in a phone call.

He drew down his home-equity line and transferred $130,000 to Mr. Davidson on Oct. 27. Ms. Clifford signed a fresh nondisclosure agreement the next day.

The Trump campaign professed ignorance. “We have no knowledge of any of this,” Hope Hicks, Mr. Trump’s spokeswoman, said of the McDougal deal.

Later that month, after Mr. Trump’s election win, Mr. Cohen met with Mr. Weisselberg to discuss reimbursement for the payment to Ms. Clifford, Mr. Cohen has told federal prosecutors.

While Mr. Cohen waited, he asked Mr. Pecker to lobby Mr. Trump to pay him more money.

Mr. Pecker visited Trump Tower twice during the presidential transition. When he raised Mr. Cohen’s request during a meeting in the first week of December 2016, Mr. Trump demurred, saying Mr. Cohen had plenty of money. During Mr. Pecker’s second visit, in January 2017, Mr. Trump thanked him for suppressing the McDougal story.

Mr. Weisselberg soon completed the reimbursement plan.

It would turn out to be a costly deal for Mr. Trump.

Had he just paid the ex-adult film star himself, Mr. Trump would have been out of pocket $130,000. Instead, Mr. Weisselberg authorized a reimbursement of twice that much, characterized in Mr. Trump’s records as legal fees, to cover the income tax hit Mr. Cohen would take. He also added a $60,000 bonus. Mr. Cohen received the money in monthly installments of $35,000.

In the first year of Mr. Trump’s presidency, American Media continued to feature him on the Enquirer cover. In July 2017, Mr. Trump hosted Messrs. Pecker and Howard at the White House for dinner, an Oval Office visit and a private tour of the Lincoln Bedroom led by the president.

After the Journal reported on the payment to Ms. Clifford in January 2018, the relationships between Messrs. Trump, Cohen and Pecker began to fracture.

Days later, on April 9, the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided Mr. Cohen’s office, apartment and hotel room. Agents approached Messrs. Pecker and Howard. Federal prosecutors subpoenaed American Media and the Trump Organization, among others.

As Mr. Trump continued to distance himself from Mr. Cohen and the payment, American Media turned on Mr. Cohen, with a National Enquirer cover featuring the headline, “Trump Fixer’s Secrets & Lies.”Mr. Cohen learned he had been let go as Mr. Trump’s personal attorney when he saw it on television.

Both Messrs. Cohen and Pecker began seeking to minimize their exposure. Mr. Pecker, granted immunity for his grand jury testimony, told investigators about Mr. Trump’s involvement in the McDougal deal.

The three men no longer speak to one another.

 

[do or die]

47 minutes ago, JCon said:

I'm going to arm my kids, just in case. They may need to avenge me. 

Yeah, well, I am going to adopt some, pre-armed.......

[The Unknown Poster]

2 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Florida senate election is going to be interesting. Probably some others as well.

 

"Aboard Air Force One late Friday morning, Trump said he would also mount a legal challenge. 

“As soon as Democrats sent their best Election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias, to Broward County they miraculously started finding Democrat votes,” the president tweeted. “Don’t worry, Florida – I am sending much better lawyers to expose the FRAUD!”

One of his fundamental qualities, Trump  sets the table for violence.

Well, it worked for W. vs Gore.  I saw a tweet talking about the Supreme Court ruling in that case where the Justices made a point of saying their decision should NOT be considered a precedent.  The implication being they werent very comfortable with their decision.

Im glad W. won but even the most basic look at the goofy ballet had the 3rd party candidate mistakenly receiving enough ballots meant for Gore to decide the Presidency.