Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

 

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

Tax and spend governments just don't fly anymore. One and done for Justin.  

Imagine being this stupid 

 

Just crazy....

14 hours ago, Zontar said:

A genuine and strong leader would put Canada first. Prime Minister Zig Zag didnt. He put the "world" and his ideology first.

Hardly a surprise..

 

You do know that all Trudeau said was basically Canada wont be bullied right? I mean, Harper and many others have come out with praise for Trudeau.. He is putting Canada first unless your idea of Canada first means us bending over and letting the Trumptards put it in our Butts. You should likely do some research instead of believing the bullshit narrative Trump and his team of idiots are pushing. Its one thing to be anti liberal but to me, your post comes off as being anti Canadian and believing the B.S. from that idiot Trump a bit too much. 

 

This is a guy who is pissing off all his allies and making friends with dictators. Open your damn eyes and stop pushing your BS agenda.. If you are Canadian, then you should actually be praising Trudeau like everyone else is, including 75 percent of Americans cuz Trump thinks he can just walk in and bully us around... Canada first? Thats exactly what Trudeau is doing. 

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by Goalie

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

You do know that all Trudeau said was basically Canada wont be bullied right? I mean, Harper and many others have come out with praise for Trudeau.. He is putting Canada first unless your idea of Canada first means us bending over and letting the Trumptards put it in our Butts. 

Only the most hardcore of alt right trumpologists, those that embrace the white nationalist nonsense could look at JT's remarks and Trumps (and his admin) and think Trump was in the right at JT was in the wrong.

It exposes the trump supporters.  Its like he said, he could shoot a guy in times square.  And his supporters would blame the victim for ruining a good bullet.

Even God is on Canadas side as the guy who is likely pushing Trump to be this way just had a heart attack. 

Trumps just pissed off that Trudeau is taller than him.

18 hours ago, Zontar said:

Silly, immature, out his depth Trudeau would rather virtue signal to the globalist, socialist, open border elites

Trudeau's stance defending Canada's protectionist policies in its dairy market is somehow virtue signaling to the globalist open-borders elite? 

You must be talking about those other kind of globalists, the ones who love tariffs...

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by johnzo

So, North Korea is now some kind of as a nuclear equal, so the US can provide security guarantees to N.K., and to cancel war games with South Korea that the North has protested for decades.   In return Kim merely “reaffirmed” the same commitment to denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula that North Korea has repeatedly made since 1992 - a commitment ....which have been proven to be completely worthless.

Kim Jong-un, probably the worst human rights abuser on the planet..... has now been provided a place on the world stage and gained a ton of legitimacy for his horrific regime

In exchange for this Trump brags about how he was told  “They were willing to de-nuke,”  Yet the only person making actual concessions in this negotiation was Trump.   Think the South Koreans and Japanese are a little nervous?

On top of that, we have to listen to Trump's verbal garbage, about how they trust each other, Kim's "great personality" and how NK loves their leader.  

The Don, true to form.....also suggested to Kim that they could collaborate on some future real estate opportunities - perhaps The Don got his actual concession, there.

 

Then you juxtaposition all this.....against Trump's bellowing, bullying, and belittling of pretty well all of America's traditional allies - who actual have aided them, in fighting for, and protecting freedoms and liberties.

Disgusting.

btw - where are all these Republican super patriots, who always demanding that America must stand against dictators and oppressive regimes, and protect US values? ( to say nothing of all free traders, in the House and Senate) What a bunch of crawfish.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by do or die

Imagine thinking Obama pandered to Cuba but Trump is a leader of men with this ill-advised glad-handing in NK.

Trump is assuming he is so wonderful that Kim will go back to NK and begin treating his people well, acting responsibly and joining the international community.  He must hope that...because he got nothing out of this.  He leveraged the prestige of his office to give Kim legitimacy in exchange for absolutely nothing (other than the ego stroke that a wannabe dictator gets from having his ass-kissed by an actual dictator).

Kim promised to do what he already promised to do in exchange for promises from Trump.  Ridiculous.

The only reason this thing with North Korea happened was because Trumpy wants to claim that he pulled off something no other president (ie. Obama) could do. Except that any president could have met with North Korea any time they wanted if they were willing to conceed everything like Trump did. Then the summit actually happens and the only thing to come from it is Trump giving concessions to North Korea. 

It would be laughable if I didn't already know that many people in the USA would believe the **** that Trump is going to claim about the bigly success that this summit was for him. 

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

The only reason this thing with North Korea happened was because Trumpy wants to claim that he pulled off something no other president (ie. Obama) could do. Except that any president could have met with North Korea any time they wanted if they were willing to conceed everything like Trump did. Then the summit actually happens and the only thing to come from it is Trump giving concessions to North Korea. 

It would be laughable if I didn't already know that many people in the USA would believe the **** that Trump is going to claim about the bigly success that this summit was for him. 

In fact, as I recall, didnt Obama say, when first running for President, he'd be open to meeting with NK under the right circumstances and it was used against Obama to say he lacked experience.  But when Trump does it, the crazy right thinks its the greatest thing.

5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

The only reason this thing with North Korea happened was because Trumpy wants to claim that he pulled off something no other president (ie. Obama) could do. Except that any president could have met with North Korea any time they wanted if they were willing to conceed everything like Trump did. Then the summit actually happens and the only thing to come from it is Trump giving concessions to North Korea. 

It would be laughable if I didn't already know that many people in the USA would believe the **** that Trump is going to claim about the bigly success that this summit was for him. 

I especially love that they had a presser and signed a nonsense paper just to have the visual of them signing something together. 

The thing that really burns me about this NK business:

Used to work for the IRB - had access to Human Rights Watch, UN Internal Databases, and a variety of other sources.   The general public has very little understanding about just how bad this situation in NK is, and for how long.  

Trump glad handing with Kim, is not only appalling on its own right - but is a complete insult to American allies, and anyone who believes in democratic values.

The world's great destabilizer, at the moment is not Putin or Kim......but Donald Trump.

 

Did Trump actually talk about doing his own real estate transaction in N Korea?

Talk about your transparent, in your face corruption. 

Robert Mugabe was less brazen.

 Trump thinks that the President owns everything in the USA, that it's all supposed to benefit him directly.

Anyway, I will take Trump stupidly thinking he's buddies with the vile North Korean dictator, 

to Trump thinking about dropping a nuclear bomb on them.

 

and..... good posts @do or die, thanks.

 

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by Mark F

4 hours ago, Goalie said:

Even God is on Canadas side as the guy who is likely pushing Trump to be this way just had a heart attack. 

Weird... I don't even feel the slightest bit guilty liking this post... 

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

Did Trump actually talk about doing his own real estate transaction in N Korea?

@do or die

 

You bet

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391773-trump-i-told-kim-he-could-have-the-best-hotels-in-the-world

All that the meeting with NK was for Trump was a photo op to stoke his ego and tell the dictator that the Trump family will build him beautiful hotels and the dictator and the future King will become wealthy beyond their dreams.

Clueless

 

Trudeau has professed his love and admiration for Cuba and China. Obama and Cuba, Obamas sweetheart deal with iran, bows to king of saudi arabia

 Funny, how moral outrage can be so selective.

Wonder if the family of Otto Warmbier have that nice fuzzy and loving feeling about the NK dictator and his regime.

6 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Trudeau has professed his love and admiration for Cuba and China. Obama and Cuba, Obamas sweetheart deal with iran, bows to king of saudi arabia

 Funny, how moral outrage can be so selective.

Whataboutism is so cheap and hollow. Yet another vain attempt at deflection.

7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Only the most hardcore of alt right trumpologists, those that embrace the white nationalist nonsense could look at JT's remarks and Trumps (and his admin) and think Trump was in the right at JT was in the wrong.

It exposes the trump supporters.  Its like he said, he could shoot a guy in times square.  And his supporters would blame the victim for ruining a good bullet.

I want strength not weakness and not globalism, trendy socialism and cultural marxism. I want my country put FIRST.

"The historic and important agreement we all reached at Charlevoix will help make our economies stronger, ournpeople more prosperous, protect our environment and protect the rights of women and girls right around the world. THATS WHAT MATTERS.

This is the man you want in a negotiation with someone as strong anda country as powerful as the USA ?

This is the man weve entrusted our economic well being to?

A comedy sketch, if it wasnt so achingly pathetic and real.