iso_55 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) Thought I'd post this as it came in my email as I( subscribe to 3 Down Nation. According to Justin Dunk the Bombers aren't paying Drew Willy $410,000 to carry a clipboard on the sidelines. If things remain the same & he doesn't start another game Willy will be paid $285,000 which includes salary, bonus & housing. As far as Matt Nichols, if he plays the rest of the season as a starter he'll be paid $321,000 which includes salary, bonuses & housing. However, at the qb position we'll have paid out the most money of any CFL team at a bit over $600,000 for both guys. Here's the link: http://3downnation.com/2016/09/02/numbers-matt-nichols-drew-willy-contract-details/http://3downnation.com/2016/09/02/numbers-matt-nichols-drew-willy-contract-details/ Edited September 2, 2016 by iso_55 wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDogHasScheifeles Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Even steven baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Not a ton over what most teams have sunk into QBs. Probably well under what most teams with viable cfl vet back ups are paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 What is going on with everyone starting threads for topics already being discussed? So strange. At any rate, we've been talking about this since early this morning in another thread...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Noeller said: What is going on with everyone starting threads for topics already being discussed? So strange. At any rate, we've been talking about this since early this morning in another thread...... Because the CFL thread is obscure. Why should we go there first to see if the same story is posted? Besides, if someone wants to discuss one story alone & single it out, who cares? Sorry I didn't get permission to post this here from you first. Atomic and The Classic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 It's in the trade Willy thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: It's in the trade Willy thread Thanks, Jpan85. It's up to the mods if they want to merge all the Willy-Nicholls posts into one, I guess. Have no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) With all the discussion revolving around the Drew and Matt show, somehow Walters has managed to sneak in this under the SMS ROSTER 02-Sep-16 WPG ADD INT Stanley BRYANT (OL) East Carolina – New Contract WPG ADD INT Justin MEDLOCK (K) UCLA – New Contract CFL Transactions Edited September 2, 2016 by Mr Dee Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Mr Dee said: With all the discussion revolving around the Drew and Matt show, somehow Walters has managed to sneak in this under the SMS ROSTER 02-Sep-16 WPG ADD INT Stanley BRYANT (OL) East Carolina – New Contract WPG ADD INT Justin MEDLOCK (K) UCLA – New Contract Re-signed? Didn't Medlock sign a new deal in February? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 59 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: With all the discussion revolving around the Drew and Matt show, somehow Walters has managed to sneak in this under the SMS ROSTER 02-Sep-16 WPG ADD INT Stanley BRYANT (OL) East Carolina – New Contract WPG ADD INT Justin MEDLOCK (K) UCLA – New Contract CFL Transactions Interesting... what does it mean?? Extension? Renegotiation? Would be funny if instead of renegotiating Willy's deal, they restructured our star left tackle and kicker. Seems unlikely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Most likely the restructured their contracts. Giving them their money next year not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Jpan85 said: Most likely the restructured their contracts. Giving them their money next year not this year. How do you go up to two of your best veteran players and ask them to restructure when everyone knows the issue is Willy making too much money? I don't know about that one. No no it's better not to speculate I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I think we should assign our new source, Justin, to get to the bottom of this...pronto. With a complete breakdown of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueingreenland Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 It was stated that these salaries are the most expensive 2 qbs (combo) in the league at just over 600,000. One would have to think that Burris and Harris together would be well over that 600,000 mark. Didn't Ottawa sign burris for around 400,000 - and I can't see Harris signing there for chump change. Also, what about Calgary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Harris big money kicks in next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 37 minutes ago, Atomic said: How do you go up to two of your best veteran players and ask them to restructure when everyone knows the issue is Willy making too much money? I don't know about that one. No no it's better not to speculate I think. Since my terrible explanations of salary cap management in the other thread don't be seem to be helping anyone, let me try again here. You convert base pay to a "signing bonus" for signing a new contract. Signing bonuses are prorated over the length of the contract, whereas base pay counts only to this year. So these guys took, say, a $10000 pay cut this year, but got a $15000 signing bonus for signing a new contract. So lets say it's a 2 year restructured contract, so the bonus counts as $7500 each year, effectively lowering the players cap hit by $2500, while they get an extra $5000 today. I hope this helps. Again, this is works in the NFL, I have no idea if the CFL does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'll just say this.... I really don't care how much the bombers are paying Willy and Nichols. Whatever really. Irrelevant to me. But I kind of find it interesting that dunk gets the scoop here over our local guys. Makes you wonder if our local guys knew about it but decided to try and create stories to sell papers or get clicks or they just didn't know about it at all. Odd. Normally I would assume that a guy like Lawless or Penton would know this but perhaps the bombers are growing tired of our local medias bs and are deciding to give the scoop to others. Strange for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 25 minutes ago, yogi said: Since my terrible explanations of salary cap management in the other thread don't be seem to be helping anyone, let me try again here. You convert base pay to a "signing bonus" for signing a new contract. Signing bonuses are prorated over the length of the contract, whereas base pay counts only to this year. So these guys took, say, a $10000 pay cut this year, but got a $15000 signing bonus for signing a new contract. So lets say it's a 2 year restructured contract, so the bonus counts as $7500 each year, effectively lowering the players cap hit by $2500, while they get an extra $5000 today. I hope this helps. Again, this is works in the NFL, I have no idea if the CFL does this. Yeah, maybe Bryant and Medlock were team players and helped out the team with a win-win scenario. For example, Bryant and Medlock could have restructured their deals and are taking 50 000 less in base salary for a 40 000 signing bonus that counts this year. Walters saves 20 000 total for this year's SMS and the players get a signing bonus which is taxed at 15% so they end up with more take home pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Blue Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) I would have to guess it has something to do with tax laws and how a bonus is taxed vs salary. http://3downnation.com/2016/02/25/cfl-players-restructure-contracts/ Edited September 3, 2016 by Dr. Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Willy may be broken down but not Nichols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: Yeah, maybe Bryant and Medlock were team players and helped out the team with a win-win scenario. For example, Bryant and Medlock could have restructured their deals and are taking 50 000 less in base salary for a 40 000 signing bonus that counts this year. Walters saves 20 000 total for this year's SMS and the players get a signing bonus which is taxed at 15% so they end up with more take home pay. That is a little too Tamanesque for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: That is a little too Tamanesque for my liking. Lol, I hear you. But so is giving Ryan Smith a hundred grand or so in bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: Lol, I hear you. But so is giving Ryan Smith a hundred grand or so in bonuses. That would be more along the lines of paying a guy 50K before TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Mr Dee said: With all the discussion revolving around the Drew and Matt show, somehow Walters has managed to sneak in this under the SMS ROSTER 02-Sep-16 WPG ADD INT Stanley BRYANT (OL) East Carolina – New Contract WPG ADD INT Justin MEDLOCK (K) UCLA – New Contract CFL Transactions Where did u find this by the way? Useful info, the CFL site doesn't list new contract deals like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Hopefully there is an explanation from the Bombers about these 2 new contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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