GCn20
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5 minutes ago, Booch said:
I think we knew we would be landing Broxton before we re-upped Big Stan and he gonna be a big part of the lineup regardless...Broxton will be his replacement next yr, and he has also played RT too, so Stan has earned to be in his spot, and compete for it....and if in camp the 2 Tackles show they deserve to be playing then Stan I bet becomes the super 6th and will be on the field a lot regardless....and what a backup to have if a tackle goes down
Yeah he is 40....but he really showed no real drop in play last yr, and times when it seemed he would at times get beat wide...was it an issue of him compensating a bit to his right with Wallace growing pains and Kolo...just being Kolo?...Me thinks so
Stan doesn't worry me much, and we are in a great spot if he suddenly hits the age wall.
3 minutes ago, Booch said:well Kramdi was worked and used at safety already...And Griffin was used at SAM and was our best SAM in yrs since Darby before he got yanked for Kramdi
3 import oline is easy...especially if we go 3 canadian recievers, but we dont even have to....Have a C and Guard...BO...Demski and another Cdn reciever...thats 5...Lawson and Kramdi on defence..theres the 7...And you rotate in Shay/Smith....Bailey....easy peasy
Would be nice to pick through the FA's and get some NAT depth, but what we have is not too bad either.
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52 minutes ago, Booch said:
Moreso as well the 2 guards not having to worry or try and compensate to whats on their left...and right
Jury is out on our C until he proves himself, but our OGs need not worry much about OTs.
13 minutes ago, bearpants said:I genuinely wonder about where Big Stan fits in... if you consider a potential starting line up of Broxton-Vanderpool-Eli-Paddy-Randolph.... where does Stan play that makes this group better?... Could he dress as a DI and play TE on 6-man sets?.... that would be an easy way to count him as a DA
I highly doubt Randolph displaces Stan/Broxton at OT. He probably plays inside over Vanderpool.
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2 minutes ago, BBlink said:
Combination of Big Stan and Broxton (I'm assuming) on the left side is going to be wild. Eli should have a tonne of confidence in the middle when he doesn't have to worry about anything to his left. Snap the ball and do your job.
Still not convinced it will be Eli at C, but if it is then certainly having Stan/Boxton bookending is going to allow the OGs to do better, which takes pressure off Eli as well.
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7 minutes ago, Booch said:
so as it see it currently...not based on any further signings, or what happens in RC....Our defence could shale our as such as a base set
Allen...Nichols...Kramdi...Holm....Moxey
Wilson...Jones...Griffen
WJ...Lawson..Ceresna..One of Jenkins/Romanowski and Bailey rotating
When we go 3 Dlinman front lots of variations with Woodbey and I can see Smith and Shay subbing in an when we do those other sets where Hallet came in as well chaing guys but not really doing much that could be Vaval's role if he doesnt take the other Corner spot
Thats a far cry from last yr and the making of a pretty stout defence
Offensively
Bryant...Vpool/Randolph...Eli...Neuf...Broxton and Wallace as the 6th
Gimme Banks outside...Demski..White...Pokey....Neild/Clercius....
And of course ZC and BO in backfield.....and the key...an O.C who has had success in the league
That looks light yrs ahead of where we were, and camp and the rest of FA hasnt even concluded yet
I'm just thinking good luck teams stopping is on second and short and Jumbo when you could have a side of the Oline with Eli..Broxton..Wallace...Bryant ..grading road
yup....and dide scored 14 td's....pretty much double any other reciever...so obviously was money in red zone or just getting in for paydirt
I like our roster coming in this year as well. We addressed all 3 areas of major weakness with some PROVEN talent. Boxton, White, Ceresna are all premier players. Instead of losing 3 all star calibre players like we did last year we added 3. Those are huge move the needle signings.
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15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Withn Tim White, Nic Demski, Tommy Nield & Ontaria Wilson having Lawler now would have been the icing on the cake. Not only would we have spread the ball around but we also would have had the best deep ball receiver in the CFL. That's the missing piece on offense right now.
Agreed. Kenny last year would have helped, and this year would be more impactful likely.
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15 hours ago, bearpants said:
you're right... signing Lawler would've added a few "wow" moments to our offense... having him may have led to more points and maybe an extra win... but his presence wouldn't have fixed our OL issues or DL issues or overall ineptitude of our offense... what's done is done... last year is a throw away (IMO) and let's look forward to getting back this year....
No doubt about it. Kenny wasn't going to save our season, but he would have been one step up the ladder from where we were and sure would look great in blue and gold this year as well.
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15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Do you remember just how bad & undisciplined the Riders were under Craig Dickenson? He stood up for Garrett Marino who was a thug on the field & run out of the league. Duke Williams spit on an Argo & while injured off the Rider roster that same season took a swing at a Blue Bomber who ran out of bounds at the Rider bench right beside Dickenson. I don't recall much of a controversy at Mace's media conference when he was hired as Rider HC. Or if he even said that.
Players should have to make the team on merit. Not entitlement. We've seen that going on here for 12 years. We lost our fair share of players over the past 3 off seasons leading up to this one. The flip side is if you keep playing OTH veterans like Thomas & Kolankowski it creates a log jam & younger players who deserve it can't get on the field. They end up leaving at the end of their contract anyway. The older players keep signing because they want to keep playing & know that anywhere else they'd be cut. So, they re-sign these loyalty "cap friendly" deals.
I don't get your criticism of Mace. He's just doing his job.
As I stated earlier, MOS took it too far the other way, but a coach showing loyalty to his players is exactly the right move for player retention in the long run. Throwing players under the bus leads to exodus in the offseason. That is what is happening in Saskatchewan right now. If you are seriously suggesting that the core of our talent stayed here on cap friendly deals in the peak of their careers to avoid being cut elsewhere you have truly gone off the deep end. We received many favorable contracts from players who turned down bigger offers elsewhere. I am not seeing that kind of loyalty to the Riders with the exception of Trevor Harris, to whom your point may apply. Just as you don't get my criticism of Mace, I really don't understand your praise of him?
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12 hours ago, Tracker said:I suspect the real reason that some guys liked that they could under-perform and still have jobs. There will always be those who prefer that security over winning, or at least being in the hunt every game.
Weird take given our record over the past several years. Do you really believe that we have a bunch of players in our locker room that didn't like winning? I don't. That's a massive reach you guys and S27 are trying to make now. We weren't some last place team hanging onto aging vets who didn't care about winning. That is complete rubbish created by fans taking it over the top,
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5 minutes ago, Goalie said:Would it have? Hamilton didn’t win. Our O was crap. Still Would have been crap but wow what a catch every few games from Kenny.
Yes, it would definitely have helped. No way of knowing what kind of contributions he may have made. He actually stayed healthy last year and was by far, the best receiver in the league. Hard to come with a reason that wouldn't have helped. You say "wow what a catch by Kenny Lawler" like it's a bad thing. Those kind of grabs change games.
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4 minutes ago, Brandon said:
Lemon / Mauldin could probably be picked up on the cheap. Might be serviceable in a rotation on a one year prove me deal.
Lemon will never go to the RIders imo. Bad blood between those two. However, Mauldin (if he was cheap) might be worth a camp invite. Even tho he looked really bad last year, maybe he just needs a fresh start,
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16 minutes ago, JGD said:I highly doubt the Riders are done signing Dlineman. Hervey gave Carney a ridiculous amount of money, can't blame him for moving on. I just find it odd that you say Vaughters is in decline when he had more than twice the amount of sacks than any other Bomber last year. Will be interesting to see how he does in the Riders system as many wrote off Carney after the 2024 season.
Better not be done signing, you guys have what amounts to a pile of rubbish signed at DL right now.
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10 minutes ago, JGD said:I highly doubt the Riders are done signing Dlineman. Hervey gave Carney a ridiculous amount of money, can't blame him for moving on. I just find it odd that you say Vaughters is in decline when he had more than twice the amount of sacks than any other Bomber last year. Will be interesting to see how he does in the Riders system as many wrote off Carney after the 2024 season.
Let me type slowly so you will understand. Sacks, especially when you are talking 6 of them, mean nothing. His PFF was the 2nd lowest at QB pressures in the entire league last year. He, also, struggled badly at holding the edge because he was too slow. We had probably the worst DL in the entire CFL last year, and chose not to offer him a new contract. That ought to tell you way more about his on field impact than the fact the QB got pushed to him a few times last year. We had zero pressure off the edge last year...like none....and we got scorched because of it. Willie J was asked to drop out a lot of the time, so he can be forgiven, but Vaughters did zero and he was supposed to be our pressure guy off the edge. You guys got the worst De from the worst DL....and you think it was a good signing. You are proof that Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.
After about 2 games of running backs going around the edge on Vaughters and QBs breaking contain on him and QBs surveying the horizon because they have all day in the pocket, and you will realize fully what you had in Carney and what you got in Vaughters. It will cost you games. The losses you guys took will result in lost games. I predict no better than 3rd in the West for you guys next year, and MIGs, you know as well as I do that I am really good at accurately predicting the Riders.
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6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
Ceresna isn't the prized signing imo. Broxton is. Ceresna is still effective though. Vaughters wasn't in CGY and certainly wasn't here.
I will say the loss of Nield might be helped with Wiebe as he could be a solid piece...jury is still out though. Certainly doesn't have the size. And like Mike said, the loss of depth may not seem like a big thing but come October you'll understand why it is.Ceresna is 10x the DE that Vaughters is. I can't believe Migs is even trying to compare Vaughters to Carney or Ceresna, they are on a completely different level compared to Vaughters. Vaughters might be the worst starting DE in the CFL.
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9 minutes ago, JGD said:
Vaughters is a year older than the Bombers prized signing yesterday, Ceresna.
LMAO...you are seriously trying to compare the two? Ceresna on his worst day was/is better than Vaughters on his best. Take a look at their physiques and get back to me.
1 minute ago, JGD said:We lost some good depth players for sure, but we have solid depth behind that as well. Nield is a good player but we already have Ajou, DuncanBusby, and Weibe as backup Canadian receivers. When we signed Emilus and KSB, it was impossible to bring back Nield, not surprised the Bombers picked up another ex-Riders receiver. Meyers will be back by LDC if not sooner.
My only concern is losing Carney, but it looks like Vaughters could be a good rotational player and he has a history with Mace. Allen is good but we also have 3 good prospects to replace him in Hundeby, Wiebe, and Straker. Nobody knew who Allen was at this time last year.
LMAO. Migs don't ever change. Vaughters isn't good enough to belong in the same conversation as Carney, and you will soon find out that all stars leaving to be replaced by recruits isn't the slam dunk you think it is. Meyers might be back by Banjo Bowl, but at this point and time he is a Bengal and your receiving corps and depth is just a shell of what it was. Your DL even moreso. Trust me, if you think Vaughters is the answer you are smoking the real good stuff.
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3 minutes ago, Booch said:
didnt happen here tho....Neild was a starter no....if not sure played a lot...was Reavis not a starter too
Vaughters....good, but not what he was...I think tho he was also a victim of a stupid scheme here, but guess we will see
Vaughters was old and slow imo. I never liked him last year at all, and would have rather we tried rookies out.
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38 minutes ago, JGD said:Happens to every team after a championship. Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup
Whats the scoop on Vaughters?
Vaughters was meh. If you don't view depth as losses, then JOD has a job for you. One of the big reasons we dominated the West for as long as we did was the quality of our depth. One of the reasons you guys stepped forward was that it seemed JOD was finally willing to value depth....and then kaboom....old JOD shows up and says hold my beer.
20 minutes ago, Mike said:lol I’m going to explain it to you even though I know it’s going to fall on deaf, inbred ears
As a fan of a team that had it happen, your depth getting pilfered is going to be your undoing. You also fail to mention that you lost a Canadian starter, lost a very big piece to the NFL (Meyers), suddenly need a Global to replace a strong contributing one, Nield was a borderline starter and a strong depth add at worst, your starting DT retired and you paid a LOT more money to the same guys moving from 2025 to 2026.
Those things all matter. I seen it happen to us.
Anyways, good seeing you again Migs
Riders had their bacon saved by Nield last year, but having that kind of insurance policy for NAT receiver isn't a loss I guess. As a team that marched out Joey Corcoran last year, I am sure glad we have him. Corcs would look good in Green, then maybe light will don on marble head. When Trevor Harris inevitably gets nicked up, and it will happen to every 40 year old QB, they will be searching the internet for the whereabouts of Tino Sunseri. By any metric the Riders got completely haymakered yesterday.,
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33 minutes ago, Mike said:
I mean, realistically there was a lot of confusion surrounding the cap amount and there are definitely a few teams who got caught waiting too long to use it but at the same time, I’m glad he didn’t just spend it to spend it last year.
Must’ve been tempting in a Grey Cup hosting year but who was out there that would’ve made a difference? I suppose you could argue maybe a Eugene Lewis type player but with Hogan calling plays, we were ****** anyways. Our roster and its usage was not anywhere near good enough last year. We were in tough the moment we decided to sign that horrendous foursome of Mitchell, Vaughters, Logan and Jones.
I agree but throwing some cash at Kenny Lawler would have helped a lot.
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5 minutes ago, Stickem said:
IF we're talking head honchos who have thrown players 'under the bus ' you have to look no further than TO.....Dimwoodie dumped on argo players all through 25'....calling them out numerous times...blaming them for 'inferior play' that cost them the season....Note the mass exodus from the big smoke....I hope he doesn't try that stuff in Ottawa
Do we have enough coin for McManis....I'd like to give Ham a scare by getting in on him...That would put us over the top in 26' if we could swing it....
McManis would be awesome, but I doubt we have that kind of cash left.
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1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:Hamilton is getting hit hard too. Murray, Bodner and Woodmansy on the online, Moxey and Amos in the secondary, Bell at rb.
Yea...I think that their spending spree last year limited this year, Just as I say that they go big game hunting for McManis.
25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread
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One guy I remember. However, he did rotate a ton of starters in and out of the lineup and that was also a lot of the problem players had with him. Then mentioned to the media that they were out because he wanted to send a message. Like I said earlier, that's a good thing for a coach to do. What's not good is going outside your dressing room to the media to explain it.