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2 minutes ago, Booch said:
See we can agree...lobo...Jones didnt hurt us per say...but wasn't a difference maker
Prime Biggies are rare...but prime Battles even rarer...he did it all...and better
I can get behind all of that. Biggie and Battle in their primes were both MODP players. Really splitting hairs as to who was better but I too like Battle.
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19 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
I’m pretty sure Eugene Lewis was one. I know they were going after him.
Eugene went with a higher offer. My question to Booch was what players left and stated it was due to being unhappy being a Bomber.
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5 hours ago, Booch said:
Or Barrin....Battle...West...heck even prime healthy Wilson....he's great rotational/depth/won't kill ya in spot starts guy...but a lot of his stats are misleading
Much like some the dine guys "lack" of stats are in the grand scheme.....as their lack allows others to eat.....and then there are guys who dont rack up stats....their lack of stats isn't freeing up others...and serve zero purpose
T.Jones performed better than expected this year and didn't hurt us one bit. That being said, I'd love to get the next Adam Bighill.
17 minutes ago, johnzo said:Yeah, JLo had a beast mode for sure -- was hoping he would stick around and be a long-time bomber but alas.
tho I might have blue-colored glasses for the guy because he made one of my top ten favorite Bomber plays.
Lobendahn's demise was injury related. He was a beast when fully healthy.
15 hours ago, 17to85 said:For me Jones lacks that ability to be disruptive in the passing game to make him a truly good MLB for this team.
That can be said for about 90% of all MIKEs that have ever played in the CFL. We were spoiled with Biggie's ability to drop into coverage. That is not the norm.
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6 minutes ago, Booch said:
and we wonder why of late guys tend to leave here more than stay....and we dont seem to land any big FA guys....
Not true at all. I get your point on the make up of this roster but this is simply not true. We have not lost many people for any other reason than GM incompetence. We've heard time and time again how players wanted to stay but the phone never rang. Name this long list of players we wanted to keep but said no and back it up with something more than a I overheard this at the gym or trust me. I can show several media reports of interviews of high profile guys leaving because we wouldn't pay them so surely you can show some interviews straight from the players mouths, not yours, where they stated they were leaving no matter what.
I'm not being a **** about this but again you are letting Walters off the hook when you insinuate that there is no way he could have signed some guys.
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11 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Plenty of people plenty who aren't even that much into football, go to games at PAS.
For sure. My son tells me that the Rum Hut is a great place to meet chicks or at the very least it has earned that reputation in his age group.
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7 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
I’ll say he’s far from the biggest issue on our D, and he is a good football player. Like many here, he’s limited but isn’t played with in those limits. Combine that with the fact we have younger, and canadian, guys with more upside and it’s frustrating.
I wouldn’t worry about his age much tbh, he’s fairly low wear and tear for his age. When he loses a step that will probably be it, as is almost always the case in football.
I don't know, none of us do really, whether we have better options but certainly if we have NATs that MIGHT be better we need to consider a hard look at them next year for sure. Even if next year is just a few reps a game unless they excel. I am 100% in favor of getting Shay some D playing time for sure. We drafted him for that reason and year 2 should see progression.
I agree that TJ is low mileage, but age is age, it can drop a guy off a cliff no matter the situation. We need to be prepared just in case that happens.
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I think the truth on T.Jones lies somewhere between wbb's and Pete's assessment. He had a good season, maybe even enough to be allstar, but he does have some deficiencies as well. I thought he played well enough for us. He wasn't Adam Bighill in his prime, but the teeth gnashing over him playing over J.Jones was a little over the top as well. The biggest problem I have with him this coming offseason is that he is getting up there in age.
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43 minutes ago, Booch said:
we've also seen pretty much every new young guy that finally got to play...played well and acrually made a difference...so talent was/is being brought in...and who knows what other tlent we cut loose could have done the same if not discarded for some of the same ol same ol crap we rostered all yr....or several yrs...so there is that angle too, and it's owned 100% by Osh....as his his refusal to not play injured guys who hindered the overall team....and thats happened for yrs here
Fact of the matter...I wouldn't shed a tear of be worried in the least if both were not brought back....and we'd be just fine...
We re-upped both prior to the Grey Cup last time they finished out the season with them on expiring deals....so if we flop again and actually dont get there.....is that the signal Miller uses for his new direction at the top 2 spots below him and decides it' time?...Possible....I not 100% sold that even if we do back our way in...that it's a given ....guess we shall see
The only new guys I've seen play that are worth a snot are Bailey, and Jenkins. The other guys are not any better than the guys ahead of them. Jenkins is brand new, so Bailey is really the only guy we can question legitimately as to why he never got playing time. Woods and Woodby have been good but not great. Who else you got?
You say guys came in and made a difference but there are just as many that didn't. Dillon Mitchell, J. Jones, and others played their way off the team lickety split so we can't say that new guys being held back was our problem. It wasn't. Fact of the matter is that Walters whiffed badly this offseason. Very badly and if we are relying on rookies to come in and be all stars then we are in really bad shape because that just won't happen consistently for any team. Glad we got a couple guys that look like keepers but it is nonsense to suggest that the talent was there. It wasn't and isn't.
I don't mind the criticism of MOS, but it is comical how people are hating so much that a GM who really screwed the pooch is getting benefit of the doubt because of this hate. The players underperformed , the GM underperformed, and the coaching underperformed....and here we are. I think that is probably the fairest assessment I've seen on this forum this year. The players didn't underperform because of MOS, the GM didn't underperform because of MOS, and MOS/coordinators didn't underperform because of the GM/players either. They all have to own their roles in this **** show. Pinning it all on MOS is really glossing over other deficiencies that we really need fixed.
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2 hours ago, Booch said:
My take is we (Walters/Miller) allowed Osh to have too much say and input in to what we felt was needed an who we wanted to keep (that should not have) and has got us to where we are. That needs to change going forward if either or both are to stay, and the G.M has to not be the HC buddy...but his Boss and he and his team will bring in the best players they can scrounge up, as well determine who will/and will not be back and the HC works within those parameters....like a typical organization does...
Whatever reasons Walters has for failing to do his job are his choices. Whether that is giving MOS too much say or whatever he owns it 100%. He's the GM.
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On 2025-10-27 at 8:57 PM, wbbfan said:
it’s basically to a point where 80% of gc games need to be played in one of 3 places.
While thats true, not a ton of cities make much off the game. A place like calgary or edmonton would very likely lose money to have a 20-25k ish attendance.
Half the fields in the league this year aren’t high enough quality either imo.Don't get me wrong, it's pretty sad sack when it comes to venues but you gotta let the East have them too because they (whether we like it or not) are our league's only hope of survival.
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4 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
More than half the cities are struggling with attendance...where else is the league supposed to go?
Grey Cups have been well attended in every city i have gone even when their regular season attendance was crap
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
For real?? Wtf...creepy
Jam packed as usual lol
I wish I was lying about the hotel situation. We got there only to find a third of the rooms for the amount of people.
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25 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:
wait, you're telling me you don't want to drive to moose jaw after the game?
Moose Jaw if you book now. Nearly every hotel room at any reputable hotel is booked before tickets even go on sale. There are some seedy hotels after but unless you like head lice, bed bugs, and tuberculosis you should just book out of town and prepare to walk because transit is completely non existent. Regina is a complete fiasco from a travelling fan's perspective and the CFL doesn't know any better because they have blocked off rooms for their needs and those of the broadcast/media well in advance and that pretty much covers Regina's rooms capacity.
My only Grey Cup there I thought I had lucked out through a bus tour out of Winnipeg that came with a room. Little did I know I was expected to share the room with two other strangers. Just awful.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
yeah....infrastructure wise they are lacking on several levels....and doesnt make for a great experience....plus it's Regina...the best thing to ever come out of that place was KickAxe
I travelled to every Grey Cup for 26 straight years, with one exception....Regina the second time around. My first experience was so poor I said never again. EVERY other Grey Cup was an absolute treat and was exceptionally well done.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
I agree...as much as I like Person and believe he gonna be good....Jenkins is more CFL ready...that being said him...Jenkins and Jaworski will all be solid guys for tc next yr and all could be on the roster in my opinion
He showed polished technique and ability already....the one where he faked a bullrush and with speed and agility cur underneath the tackle and came fee for a shot on the QB...you dont see that oftem....especially out of a rookie...he's got some serious chops
Bailey as well...he showed power moves...was wicked fast off the edge...and he got clean shots on Q.B onmore than one occasion....and as we saw....is more than capable on ST's....we need some speed/power guys....and that in itself may get our Gray beards on end to play with more spunk
It's good to finally have good options to spell off our grey beards. Hopefully we dress them. I can understand the difficulty though, because whoever we put on the PR to make room could very well be FA's so we must choose carefully. Can't expose any of our young NAT talent to get them on board. Mind you there is always the 1 game IR, certainly we must have the cap room to do that.
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2 hours ago, Booch said:
yup...fresh legs too at the right time....He offers us a nice combo of what we been lacking...Same can be aid for Bailey as well...he showed a lot...and offers valuable defensive reps to keep the old farts fresher...and can play teams...and...he's fresh too
I also am worried he plays a not ready Demski as well...cause I not sure he gonna be totally healthy and with a hammy...one lil tweak again and he's done....with how Smith played on defence...Lawson...Kramdi likely back..we can delegate 2 Canadians for atria on defence and technically not have to have 2 Canadian receivers.....we seen how this dance has gone before playing not healthy recievers in playoffs and it screwed us royally
Run out a Wheatfall...Echols...Pokey..Clercius...Stearns unit ...heavy use of BO and sprinkle in some dual backfield sets with Peterson...even MCI and trust in them to get to the EF with a "healthier" Demski
If he were some kid fresh out of the NCAA, maybe one would have to wonder if maybe he just had one of those games where everything went right and that he might not be able to sustain. However, he isn't. This is a kid with NFL pedigree, that showed an amazing ability to quickly adapt to the yard off the ball. He is legit talent and showed it. That is why I think it's a no-brainer he at least gets the nod over Person. He had probably the 2nd best performance of any DE we've had this season.
we've had other rookies the past couple years show some ability at DE but were also non factors for much of and many of the games. This kid not only got home with sacks, but noticeably disrupted on most of his reps. Legit.
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If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.
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On 2025-10-24 at 5:24 PM, rebusrankin said:
I'm not happy with Walters either but do you realistically see us getting a quality GM choice who gets handicapped by not getting to pick the head coach?
Yes, i do expect that the GM job of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers would be a very coveted position. We are now the financial model franchise of this league, are thought of as a team committed to winning, and even though you might have to inherit a HC that can be remedied after a season if it doesn't work out. There are a few current GMs who would not bat an eye at inheriting MOS. Despite the opinions expressed here on this fan site, he is very well respected around this league.
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1 minute ago, wbbfan said:
Sounds suspicious to me. But I do think very highly of RD, and Ottawa really needs a shake-up. I could see Toronto getting bone-headed with him after this season, too.
I could see Toronto having a strong interest in mos, especially.
I don't feel like a great turnkey option is readily available for either job. Unless Danny wants to move up here to the GM role.
I personally think that the author of this rumor has about as much credibility as Marty York. I would take it with a grain of salt. Hate this throw **** at a wall and see what sticks type of journalism.....just the worst.
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13 hours ago, bigg jay said:
This isn't new though. What many people have been complaining about (not going to rehash the same old arguments) has been happening for a couple seasons. This is just the first time the team hasn't been able to overcome the obvious problems and now more people have come around to the idea that maybe it's time for a change.
These guys are Bomber legends and I don't think anyone will dispute that but all good things come to an end at some point.
If our season peters out without at least a division final appearance, I would like to see Walters fired and I could go either way about MOS. If this wasn't a Grey Cup hosting year I could cut more slack based on their record up to this point but to screw the pooch as badly as Walters has done when we are hosting is a for sure grounds for termination and if the Bombers choose to just clean house on both I could understand that as well, although I think MOS deserves more benefit of the doubt for this year than Walters.
I am called the MOS apologist on here but as you can see that simply isn't true. If he gone he gone.
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2 hours ago, Stickem said:
Now IF we could predict the storm ferocity, when those pesky lightning and rain deluges occur mid summer, that can delay the game for hours on end, we'd have something....Mother nature still has the upper hand I'm afraid ....wind, rain and otherwise still very unpredictable
They are usually well known. It's just you don't cancel a game on spec and always hope the storm will miss. I was a season ticket holder for a long time and when the forecast said T-storms, there were almost always T-Storms, but games are not cancelled until the storm actually hits.
1 hour ago, Bubba Zanetti said:Meh, he's banged up again and due for some win regression.
I agree, plus he has never played a playoff game. I'll take a newb QB to the playoffs over anyone with experience. It's a different animal in the playoffs.
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59 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Also when they play at home, PAS has a sunken bowl design which (theoretically) should help mitigate wind conditions. I've often noticed the flags over the concourse blowing in the wind but the flags on the goal posts are hanging limp so it seems to work, at least to a certain extent.
Yea, we really do have a pretty nicely designed stadium for sure.
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On 2025-10-15 at 2:31 PM, Stickem said:
Bud Grant who was a very successful coach, said about the wind...'you take it from the get go if you have that option....His theory was that the wind is very unpredictable, and you take it when it's blowing at the beginning of a game...He thought the wind could switch around or quit altogether thus losing your advantage....Knowing the unpredictability of mother nature I could see his take and it worked for him
Bud Grant certainly had a strong point back in the day of weather balloons and getting your weather information based on 24 hour old information through the CBC. Nowadays we have up to the minute forecasting available on the internet. Not the same thing. If the wind is likely to die off during the game, our coaches know it before the coin flip.
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1 hour ago, sweep the leg said:
I’ve also coached for a long time and agree with this take. The competitive players want to win. They’d prefer the other starters not be lazy assholes, but in the end they mostly just want the best team on the field.
The players want the best players on the field so long as they put the team first. If you are not doing that you will be a locker room pariah. I am going to say this as gently as I can, anyone thinking differently has not coached any level of serious ball. Pop Warner players might accept lazy and me first guys, but truly competitive ball calls for TEAM and players will not appreciate guys who do not put the team first. Maybe shitty teams and shitty coaches will out of desperation but that is truly why that happens. Players want the best players on the field despite attitude only when the losses start mounting, until then they want to protect the culture in their room.
2 hours ago, M.Silverback said:I coached youth football for years, so I am definitely not an expert, or close, on anything related to football. But, the best teams I coached had the most talented players. Full stop. It was a bonus if those players also were "character, good in the room" guys, but often were not. And often the "character" players were great as back ups or positive energy bench guys. I posted before, a pro team can't be full of only narcissistic a-holes. But it needs elite talent, and if some of them are, that's why you're a pro coach! To manage egos, conflict, talent. This Bombers team is really lacking in elite talent. How many will make the all CFL team, or even West division all star team? The blame is shared between Walters, who has fallen asleep at the wheel, and Osh who seems to think character trumps talent. This is the least fun Bombers team to watch I've seen in 20 years.
Youth are quite different from adults. They don't know any better. Teenagers want the most popular guys on the field and it doesn't matter what their attitude is. You learn differently as you mature.
2 hours ago, wbbfan said:A great example of a glue guy, imo, is Sheed. He wasn't a top 3 WR, and he didn't need to be. He was the last imp wr on the roster, but after some early career struggles, was as reliable as can be, blocked his ass off, ran the sweep, and did all the little things extremely well. He was also a tremendous character guy, a leader, and a culture setter.
Early on when he was fighting his hands he was on the verge of getting cut. And when we got to a point where we needed to save money and develop more young wrs he was gone. Imo, he was gone a bit too soon. But he brought a lot while he was here. You don't need that guy, but you sure are glad to have him when hes here.
Exactly right. Sheed is a perfect example of a lesser talent having a much bigger impact than his stats. He left a big hole in the dressing room when he left.
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