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1 hour ago, Rich said:
Slay is the ultimate hyped up prospect of the past 30 years, Tee Martin...a close second in my book.
10 minutes ago, JCon said:Drink!
He also went to BC and Ottawa and couldn't do it, so it's not all on Lapolice.
Wasn't on Lapo at all. Elliot just enjoyed ignoring the play call.
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42 minutes ago, bluto said:
Kelly has been conspicuous for his hard work and charitable hours and for the record, I don't recall ever scoffing... but then I don't ever recall attesting to any particular player's sainthood either.
I don't think I'm likely to taste any crow here based on a $50k add-on to a wrongful dismissal suit. But you never know.
Like I said earlier, ask Shawn Oakman about this stuff.
Or, as I trust that most people around here are men of middle age or more, I find it difficult to believe that nobody here has an acquaintance who went through an acrimonious divorce where allegations were made. These things happen in lawsuits. They are common leveraging tools. And the tell is that usually the civil suit is filed and no criminal one is. Because if there's a criminal suit, it always makes the civil one a tap-in.
Workplace sexual harrassment isn't in an of itself criminal, just disgusting behavior of the highest order but you are half right....Kelly's behavior has now become very conspicuous. I know you wanna hang onto the shred of hope that this is a nothing to see moment in Kelly's career, or even a one off. History has clearly demonstrated this is not the first, and won't be the last time this guy's true character shows up. It really is too bad that a guy with million dollar talent is limited by a 2 cent brain.
21 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:Rider Store inundated with jersey orders from Winnipeg.
Not sure I would want to wear a Rider jersey with name on it around Winnipeg. Too many mouth breathers would find that double whammy too enticing to provoke an altercation,
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18 hours ago, MOBomberFan said:
Eastern Washington leaps to my mind (I knew there were recently a few big names but had to look them up to be sure):
Greg Peach, JC Sherritt, Bo Levi Mitchell, Matt Nichols, Vernon Adams, TJ Lee, and our latest QB recruit Eric Barriere
An outstanding program for future CFLers to be sure.
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6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
That's a rough one for middle school.
Good thing it's not the 80's or he would get one hell of a rough ride. Can't go there nowadays. Ohhh.....the puns would have wrote themselves.
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15 minutes ago, Mike said:
Really depends on what you need, if you wanna talk scouting.
Bombers and Argos scouting staff both seem to have an incredible handle on finding defensive backs and offensive linemen. Argos seem to find guys to play all over in the box, Bombers have had great success finding interior linemen. Rigmaiden finds more receivers than anyone league-wide (could be wrong but I think I remember being told Schoen was his add to the neg list too) and it seems like the Bombers have figured out a pretty good recipe for finding the CFL style quarterbacks.
Mistaken on Schoen. He was found, almost accidentally, by McManus. Was never on our neg list until after McManus scouted him. However, yes, Rigmaiden does know receivers for sure. Wish he was still one of our scouts.
EDIT: Just found an article that indicates McManus had him on his radar prior to the KC camp, even though he was there scouting someone else, he decided to also have a look at Schoen at the same time. Was intrigued and an ex-team mate of his Tom Terry was a position coach at KC and McManus grilled him about Schoen to confirm what he was thinking. I am not sure if he was ever on a neg list or not, or if Rigmaiden brought him to the Bomber's attention. Just that McManus wasn't there to scout him, but saw something interesting in him when he watched him and sent tape to Goveia to analyze and obviously TG saw it too. Might be Rigmaiden that initially scouted him? Don't know...but I think you gotta give that one to McManus.
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2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Argos/Bombers imo are neck and neck for best scouting in the league, and as much as I hate to say it, Toronto’s actually done better than us there over the last 2 years.
Jim Barker isn't there anymore though. He was a big reason for their scouting success. Barker got to pour over Murphy's database. I am glad those two are not in the front office together anymore. Murphy looks under every rock, and Barker has the knack for finding the best of the lot.
1 hour ago, bigg jay said:TBF, some of their players weren't actually scouted by them. Stiggers, for example, was not discovered by their scouts. He happened to play in the Fan Controlled league for an old Argo Assistant (John Jenkins) who told Toronto about him. I'm sure this happens for every team to some extent though - you're not going to be able to see everyone so it pays to have connections.
Yea...Jim Barker's old buddy came through.
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20 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:
That would be cool.
I have met many rider fans and everyone of them good folk who are awesome fans of their team and the CFL in general. This is why I take umbrage when people make sweeping statements about a fanbase.
That's fair.
18 hours ago, bluto said:Particularly because this isn't a criminal matter...
THIS isn't...however if we take a walk down the Chad Kelly memory lane... I told you last year this was an inevitability with Kelly. You scoffed and called him a consummate team mate or something like that. That crow tasting good?
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5 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:
now what about his military service?
MOS has seen his resume and approved of it. Can't say for sure he has military service under his belt but if he does he stands a better chance of making the team.
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6 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
The majority of Rider fans...
Most people prefer not to comment on stuff like this. Those who comment on a forum, will be in support of the team and the player. It's just the nature of fan forums. But that's not the majority of fans.
Fair enough. I will set up my context more carefully next time to designate that it is the majority of fans on their forums and online groups.
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6 minutes ago, Brandon said:
This is my point, we can't call the guy a scumbag criminal when so little of the facts is known. Same goes with the club. Unless he has admitted guilt.
This is true. It is all hyperbole at this point.
46 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:Your basing this on what.
There was an online petition with thousands of signatures for the CFL to overturn Marino's suspension, the call in shows were flooded with comments about it, their forum was heavily supporting Marino with just the odd dissenter. Not much different than a political poll, it's not possible to speak to every Rider fan but based on what is out there in terms of reaction from across various online sources in the sample size my statement holds pretty accurate.
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17 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Look - if you're going to keep posting this stuff - keep the hyperbole out of it. Or don't post.
Fine. I don't see any hyperbole in that post at all...but you're the boss. I feel there is nothing untrue or exaggerated in that post whatsoever. Can you at least point me in the direction of what your objection to it is?
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1 hour ago, wbbfan said:
I think what’s unique about the riders is the volume of creeps they’ve had. Even over 10 and 15 years to Trevis smith. Stack them up over that time and compare it to the rest of the league.
Athletes especially in football frequently come from bad situations, and are prone to having varied legal issues. Every one has a guy now and then. And some of them are really awful. When it happens on a regular basis with one team though it’s different.
In the case of Harris and lawler, we broke the news and acted quickly as an organization. Which never seems to be the approach from the riders. Even when their guy refuses a piss test, accosts the tester and runs away. Kelly’s ass was grass as soon as it happened too, though we were looking for an excuse to can that turd imo.
Yes exactly right. An organization can only do so much to control the behavior of their players, however, how they respond and react to that situation is 100% in their control. The Riders have been god awful in those situations and it may hurt some sensibilities around here, but the vast majority of their fan base was totally on board the whole time.
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10 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:
You know that many people though GM should have been turfed after the Masoli incident...
Many people weren't cool with the gun toting gangster life style
There are a lot of low moral characters that went through the riders, but to lambast the entire fanbase for a few loud chowderheads? You can't paint the entire fanbase just on a few chucklefucks... that's petty and dumb.
It was more than just a few chowderheads. There were online petitions with thousands of signatures to overturn the suspension. Their own radio pxp guy was calling it a conspiracy against the Riders. Don't give me this crap that Rider fans kept a level head through this. There is nothing petty or dumb about reminding them of the stance that a vast majority of their fan base took on Marino, and even refusing to discuss the fact that Marshall is a gang member.
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6 minutes ago, Mike said:
I don’t think we have any sex pests like Chad Kelly or any overall assholes, but one of our best players definitely doesn’t make good life choices all the time.
Not that it’s an issue, I’m just saying it’s not unique to other teams
I guess it all depends on where you wanna draw the line. A great deal of the players in this league have somewhat of a checkered past and have made errors in judgement like drinking and driving. However, our team handled these situations like consummate pros by immediately suspending said player. Riders? Not so much. Tried to hide it, played their player despite the story breaking and then after relentless media pressure suspended him for a mean nothing game. That is the difference I am trying to show in my comments.
All teams have players making mistakes. Teams like the Bombers address it appropriately, teams like the RIders or Chris Jones led teams sweep it under the carpet and defend their player with a "nothing to see here" attitude.
40 minutes ago, Jesse said:We 100% have many of our own examples. I don't think you can legitimately make this argument for anyone employed under the current Bomber management, however.
Not in any way, and any player stepping out of line and good character on our team is immediately and appropriately dealt with by our team before the CFL even has to intervene.
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10 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:
You know that many people though GM should have been turfed after the Masoli incident...
Many people weren't cool with the gun toting gangster life style
There are a lot of low moral characters that went through the riders, but to lambast the entire fanbase for a few loud chowderheads? You can't paint the entire fanbase just on a few chucklefucks... that's petty and dumb.
Nor did I. I made a comment that lambasted his team, you know the Riders...the ones guilty of doing this. After that he acted like a chucklefuck and then I let him, and chowder heads like him, know what I thought of them. For the sake of clarity, I do not think that ALL Rider fans are like that.
11 hours ago, wbbfan said:Awe was max fined what 5 times last year? And atleast twice not fined but commented on by the league? The league finally gets rid of guys like Lawrence bad Marino only to have new guys fill the same role.
How do you fine a guy that many times and not suspend for repeat offenceI agree.
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52 minutes ago, Doublezero said:
Are you suggesting criminal harrassment? I'm no lawyer but that is a form of harassment that crosses a very specific line. I don't know that that has been alleged and don't believe the cops are involved in this yet ...
Yea...it's sleazy,100% inappropriate and clearly workplace harassment.. but I'm not sure it was criminal.
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4 minutes ago, Albertabomberguy said:
It’s going back a bit but….Trevis Smith and Eric Tillman
Exactly. Things were of such low moral standard over there that they felt the need to publicly create a code of conduct due to fan outrage, which they immediately refused to enforce in subsequent years.
But hey bring it up and a Riderfan will pull his head out of the sand just long enough to call you an idiot before immediately sticking his head back in. Oblivious thy name is Rider fans.
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14 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Tbh under the previous regimes it’s not out of line.
The riders tried to sign that lber who got cut from the nfl for a horrid domestic violence under **** n oday and the cfl barred the contract and him from signing more. Going back to jones and even previous admins horrible people have been given a chance by the riders or employed by them.
That said with a new from out side coaching staff we can’t say if the toxicity will continue. I don’t think it will any where near the level it has in the past. But the precedent does exist.
Coaching is different, but same GM that gleefully signed Nick Marshall to contract after contract despite tweeting pics in gang colors holding a hand gun. One could make a pretty coherent argument that is worse than Kelly's behavior.
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2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Tbh under the previous regimes it’s not out of line.
The riders tried to sign that lber who got cut from the nfl for a horrid domestic violence under **** n oday and the cfl barred the contract and him from signing more. Going back to jones and even previous admins horrible people have been given a chance by the riders or employed by them.
That said with a new from out side coaching staff we can’t say if the toxicity will continue. I don’t think it will any where near the level it has in the past. But the precedent does exist.
Yep Marino..Marshall..the list goes on and on.
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3 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Someone's feisty.
I'm with you on the every team thing but Riders do suck. 🙂
And do regularly employ players of poor character. That's not my fault. Misdirected anger methinks. Nick Marshall the crip for crissakes.
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1 hour ago, greenrider55 said:
You’re a clown. Every team has had an incident with a player, a DUI is one thing, sexually harassing team staff is another.
To say he belongs with the Riders is an absolutely idiotic statement. Not shocking coming from you though.
Take a look at the malcontents and head cases your team has regularly employed over the past several years. It's not idiotic to hold your team to account for it. You Rider fans should do the same.
Don't give me the holier than thou bullshit from a fan base that felt Marino was a martyr. Sorry if anyone is a bunch of clowns and idiots, it is an organization that stood behind that player and a fan base who felt he was unfairly persecuted.
Not even going to get into Nick Marshall's status as a gun toting member of a violent gang, that was public knowledge for years.
I will wear your disdain like a badge of honor, knowing the truth hurt your feelers.
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As we told Bluto last year, it was only a matter of time before Kelly's penchant for erratic behavior would rear it's ugly head again. I'm frankly surprised it took this long.
He belongs with Chris Jones, or the Riders, and that is not a ringing endorsement of his character.
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He wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes on this version of the Bombers. Elliot had immense natural passing talent but a QB that won't execute the play that is called will never last long.
Tee Martin deserved a better fate to be sure, but at the end of the day the guy didn't exactly seize his chance either.