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2 hours ago, Booch said:
My take is we (Walters/Miller) allowed Osh to have too much say and input in to what we felt was needed an who we wanted to keep (that should not have) and has got us to where we are. That needs to change going forward if either or both are to stay, and the G.M has to not be the HC buddy...but his Boss and he and his team will bring in the best players they can scrounge up, as well determine who will/and will not be back and the HC works within those parameters....like a typical organization does...
Whatever reasons Walters has for failing to do his job are his choices. Whether that is giving MOS too much say or whatever he owns it 100%. He's the GM.
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On 2025-10-27 at 8:57 PM, wbbfan said:
it’s basically to a point where 80% of gc games need to be played in one of 3 places.
While thats true, not a ton of cities make much off the game. A place like calgary or edmonton would very likely lose money to have a 20-25k ish attendance.
Half the fields in the league this year aren’t high enough quality either imo.Don't get me wrong, it's pretty sad sack when it comes to venues but you gotta let the East have them too because they (whether we like it or not) are our league's only hope of survival.
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4 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
More than half the cities are struggling with attendance...where else is the league supposed to go?
Grey Cups have been well attended in every city i have gone even when their regular season attendance was crap
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
For real?? Wtf...creepy
Jam packed as usual lol
I wish I was lying about the hotel situation. We got there only to find a third of the rooms for the amount of people.
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25 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:
wait, you're telling me you don't want to drive to moose jaw after the game?
Moose Jaw if you book now. Nearly every hotel room at any reputable hotel is booked before tickets even go on sale. There are some seedy hotels after but unless you like head lice, bed bugs, and tuberculosis you should just book out of town and prepare to walk because transit is completely non existent. Regina is a complete fiasco from a travelling fan's perspective and the CFL doesn't know any better because they have blocked off rooms for their needs and those of the broadcast/media well in advance and that pretty much covers Regina's rooms capacity.
My only Grey Cup there I thought I had lucked out through a bus tour out of Winnipeg that came with a room. Little did I know I was expected to share the room with two other strangers. Just awful.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
yeah....infrastructure wise they are lacking on several levels....and doesnt make for a great experience....plus it's Regina...the best thing to ever come out of that place was KickAxe
I travelled to every Grey Cup for 26 straight years, with one exception....Regina the second time around. My first experience was so poor I said never again. EVERY other Grey Cup was an absolute treat and was exceptionally well done.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
I agree...as much as I like Person and believe he gonna be good....Jenkins is more CFL ready...that being said him...Jenkins and Jaworski will all be solid guys for tc next yr and all could be on the roster in my opinion
He showed polished technique and ability already....the one where he faked a bullrush and with speed and agility cur underneath the tackle and came fee for a shot on the QB...you dont see that oftem....especially out of a rookie...he's got some serious chops
Bailey as well...he showed power moves...was wicked fast off the edge...and he got clean shots on Q.B onmore than one occasion....and as we saw....is more than capable on ST's....we need some speed/power guys....and that in itself may get our Gray beards on end to play with more spunk
It's good to finally have good options to spell off our grey beards. Hopefully we dress them. I can understand the difficulty though, because whoever we put on the PR to make room could very well be FA's so we must choose carefully. Can't expose any of our young NAT talent to get them on board. Mind you there is always the 1 game IR, certainly we must have the cap room to do that.
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2 hours ago, Booch said:
yup...fresh legs too at the right time....He offers us a nice combo of what we been lacking...Same can be aid for Bailey as well...he showed a lot...and offers valuable defensive reps to keep the old farts fresher...and can play teams...and...he's fresh too
I also am worried he plays a not ready Demski as well...cause I not sure he gonna be totally healthy and with a hammy...one lil tweak again and he's done....with how Smith played on defence...Lawson...Kramdi likely back..we can delegate 2 Canadians for atria on defence and technically not have to have 2 Canadian receivers.....we seen how this dance has gone before playing not healthy recievers in playoffs and it screwed us royally
Run out a Wheatfall...Echols...Pokey..Clercius...Stearns unit ...heavy use of BO and sprinkle in some dual backfield sets with Peterson...even MCI and trust in them to get to the EF with a "healthier" Demski
If he were some kid fresh out of the NCAA, maybe one would have to wonder if maybe he just had one of those games where everything went right and that he might not be able to sustain. However, he isn't. This is a kid with NFL pedigree, that showed an amazing ability to quickly adapt to the yard off the ball. He is legit talent and showed it. That is why I think it's a no-brainer he at least gets the nod over Person. He had probably the 2nd best performance of any DE we've had this season.
we've had other rookies the past couple years show some ability at DE but were also non factors for much of and many of the games. This kid not only got home with sacks, but noticeably disrupted on most of his reps. Legit.
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If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.
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On 2025-10-24 at 5:24 PM, rebusrankin said:
I'm not happy with Walters either but do you realistically see us getting a quality GM choice who gets handicapped by not getting to pick the head coach?
Yes, i do expect that the GM job of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers would be a very coveted position. We are now the financial model franchise of this league, are thought of as a team committed to winning, and even though you might have to inherit a HC that can be remedied after a season if it doesn't work out. There are a few current GMs who would not bat an eye at inheriting MOS. Despite the opinions expressed here on this fan site, he is very well respected around this league.
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1 minute ago, wbbfan said:
Sounds suspicious to me. But I do think very highly of RD, and Ottawa really needs a shake-up. I could see Toronto getting bone-headed with him after this season, too.
I could see Toronto having a strong interest in mos, especially.
I don't feel like a great turnkey option is readily available for either job. Unless Danny wants to move up here to the GM role.
I personally think that the author of this rumor has about as much credibility as Marty York. I would take it with a grain of salt. Hate this throw **** at a wall and see what sticks type of journalism.....just the worst.
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13 hours ago, bigg jay said:
This isn't new though. What many people have been complaining about (not going to rehash the same old arguments) has been happening for a couple seasons. This is just the first time the team hasn't been able to overcome the obvious problems and now more people have come around to the idea that maybe it's time for a change.
These guys are Bomber legends and I don't think anyone will dispute that but all good things come to an end at some point.
If our season peters out without at least a division final appearance, I would like to see Walters fired and I could go either way about MOS. If this wasn't a Grey Cup hosting year I could cut more slack based on their record up to this point but to screw the pooch as badly as Walters has done when we are hosting is a for sure grounds for termination and if the Bombers choose to just clean house on both I could understand that as well, although I think MOS deserves more benefit of the doubt for this year than Walters.
I am called the MOS apologist on here but as you can see that simply isn't true. If he gone he gone.
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2 hours ago, Stickem said:
Now IF we could predict the storm ferocity, when those pesky lightning and rain deluges occur mid summer, that can delay the game for hours on end, we'd have something....Mother nature still has the upper hand I'm afraid ....wind, rain and otherwise still very unpredictable
They are usually well known. It's just you don't cancel a game on spec and always hope the storm will miss. I was a season ticket holder for a long time and when the forecast said T-storms, there were almost always T-Storms, but games are not cancelled until the storm actually hits.
1 hour ago, Bubba Zanetti said:Meh, he's banged up again and due for some win regression.
I agree, plus he has never played a playoff game. I'll take a newb QB to the playoffs over anyone with experience. It's a different animal in the playoffs.
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59 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Also when they play at home, PAS has a sunken bowl design which (theoretically) should help mitigate wind conditions. I've often noticed the flags over the concourse blowing in the wind but the flags on the goal posts are hanging limp so it seems to work, at least to a certain extent.
Yea, we really do have a pretty nicely designed stadium for sure.
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On 2025-10-15 at 2:31 PM, Stickem said:
Bud Grant who was a very successful coach, said about the wind...'you take it from the get go if you have that option....His theory was that the wind is very unpredictable, and you take it when it's blowing at the beginning of a game...He thought the wind could switch around or quit altogether thus losing your advantage....Knowing the unpredictability of mother nature I could see his take and it worked for him
Bud Grant certainly had a strong point back in the day of weather balloons and getting your weather information based on 24 hour old information through the CBC. Nowadays we have up to the minute forecasting available on the internet. Not the same thing. If the wind is likely to die off during the game, our coaches know it before the coin flip.
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1 hour ago, sweep the leg said:
I’ve also coached for a long time and agree with this take. The competitive players want to win. They’d prefer the other starters not be lazy assholes, but in the end they mostly just want the best team on the field.
The players want the best players on the field so long as they put the team first. If you are not doing that you will be a locker room pariah. I am going to say this as gently as I can, anyone thinking differently has not coached any level of serious ball. Pop Warner players might accept lazy and me first guys, but truly competitive ball calls for TEAM and players will not appreciate guys who do not put the team first. Maybe shitty teams and shitty coaches will out of desperation but that is truly why that happens. Players want the best players on the field despite attitude only when the losses start mounting, until then they want to protect the culture in their room.
2 hours ago, M.Silverback said:I coached youth football for years, so I am definitely not an expert, or close, on anything related to football. But, the best teams I coached had the most talented players. Full stop. It was a bonus if those players also were "character, good in the room" guys, but often were not. And often the "character" players were great as back ups or positive energy bench guys. I posted before, a pro team can't be full of only narcissistic a-holes. But it needs elite talent, and if some of them are, that's why you're a pro coach! To manage egos, conflict, talent. This Bombers team is really lacking in elite talent. How many will make the all CFL team, or even West division all star team? The blame is shared between Walters, who has fallen asleep at the wheel, and Osh who seems to think character trumps talent. This is the least fun Bombers team to watch I've seen in 20 years.
Youth are quite different from adults. They don't know any better. Teenagers want the most popular guys on the field and it doesn't matter what their attitude is. You learn differently as you mature.
2 hours ago, wbbfan said:A great example of a glue guy, imo, is Sheed. He wasn't a top 3 WR, and he didn't need to be. He was the last imp wr on the roster, but after some early career struggles, was as reliable as can be, blocked his ass off, ran the sweep, and did all the little things extremely well. He was also a tremendous character guy, a leader, and a culture setter.
Early on when he was fighting his hands he was on the verge of getting cut. And when we got to a point where we needed to save money and develop more young wrs he was gone. Imo, he was gone a bit too soon. But he brought a lot while he was here. You don't need that guy, but you sure are glad to have him when hes here.
Exactly right. Sheed is a perfect example of a lesser talent having a much bigger impact than his stats. He left a big hole in the dressing room when he left.
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16 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Of course it's with the Knights.
I know I'm some rando guy on the world wide web so this is only important to me and my family but my daughter had a run-in with this individual in his draft year and let's just say she wasn't impressed, well it was the complete opposite of impressed.
Here's to the Knights and said player failing miserably.
I've heard similar stories about Jonathan Toews. I like to give players the benefit of the doubt when I hear about bad fan interactions. Sometimes guys, young guys especially, don't realize how important it is to hide their bad days when dealing with fans.
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1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:
The other observation I had watching the dynamics on the sidelines was MOS's (and other coaches/players) animated displeasure (with good cause probably) towards Mitchell's lack of execution/preparation/engagement but completely 180 degree approach to other players like JT who is probably very likeable, hustles, is a team player, engaged but bottom line his 'production' generally matches what players like Mitchell 'produce' considering JT gets more reps that DM. I get why but at the EOD one has to produce on the field and being a body filler of gaps frequently being manhandled on pass plays to me sends what kind of message to players who, like JT, bust their ass but produce unlike JT? This whole dynamic is a much bigger issue than the approach JT is our 39th best player it's not a big deal. IMO playing and supporting players like JT influences team culture that influences production on the field more than some think.
That's what these guys here who profess to have played the game don't have a hot clue about when it comes to coaching. I suppose selfish, me first players might see it differently but they generally have very short careers. Guys who are truly professional and put the team first have no issues whatsoever with coaches that reward hard work and effort and it absolutely is key to building a winning culture. If you want to reward talent over character all the time you will have the Craig Dickenson RIders. A team full of me first guys that cannot win. Easy for us armchair coaches to sit back and say Player X is marginally more talented than Player Z and therefore that should be the only consideration, and that's why we are not professional coaches, because if that's your only consideration when making the lineup you will be the worst coach in CFL history.
I coached for many years and had an open door policy with my players. Had hundreds of discussions with players about lineups and who was starting who wasn't. The overwhelming majority of concerns that players had if I was making a lineup wasn't about me dressing/starting a lesser talent. Quite the opposite, players would come to me and tell me so and so isn't working hard and his backup is busting his nuts, you should dress that guy instead. Players value other players putting in the work, and for the most part, their talent level is less important. That is as true a locker room statement as there is. Anyone saying different is either lying about being in a dressing room, or is oblivious and the guy that other players were saying should sit.
Over the years I've had the opportunity to speak to a lot of JT's team mates. To a man they view him as their Rudy Reuttiger because he gives 100% all the time. That being said, he probably gets more reps than he should at this point in his career, but playing him is not as big an issue as some here make it out to be. He's a glue guy.
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4 minutes ago, bearpants said:
this past offseason was fairly disappointed at the time... and is a complete disaster in hindsight... consider the "big" moves we made:
- Mitchell - couldn't crack the line up and when he has played, he's been useless outside of one play
- Logan - lost his job to Vaval (though never really given much opportunity)
- Jonathon Jones - released
- Vaughters - been OK but nothing spectacular
- Schoen - resigned at a discount only to basically ruin his career
- Let Lawler walk and he's been an all-star in HammyFaj > Kelly was more of a hypothetical... I don't expect either to be available
Let's not forget Dobson as well, and that's just one of a plethora of good young OL we have simply let go to market, while simultaneously over the past several years not drafting OL in the first round. This offseason we went scrap heaping with a fist full of dollars available. Makes no sense in a Grey Cup year. Before we even played one snap this year I was ready to take my pitch fork and try find Kyle Walters. Now I am just too sad to do so. Logan didn't really lose his job to Vaval so much as Vaval just took it from him when Logan was injured. Can't really blame the GM for that mistake, but at the end of the day a mistake is a mistake whether intentions were good or not.
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32 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
They did bring in 3 guys essentially for one spot, in white, sterns and mitchell. But they could’ve brought in some one who was less of a hail mary.
White was the best of them in camp imo.
Glad lawson is off for houston too. It’s wild though how thin we are at soo many positions.
Yea, all 3 were kind of duds. You lose Lawler you better bring in someone a heck of a lot better than Sterns/White/Mitchell. It's this kind of GMing that has cost us dearly this year. Over the past several years we have lost enormous amounts of top tier talent with B rate replacements signed to replace them. That has led us to this. Our complete lack of quality depth is also a big time issue. We haven't seen much in that regard since RIgmaiden left town.
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22 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:
MOS showing his displeasure with him, JJ very animated in trying to coach him up while showing him plays on his playcard, Wilson trying to get Mitchell more engaged on the sidelines as Mitchell would drift off and stand alone while the D was on.
Yea, there were two plays in a row that Mitchell, just half arsed his routes at a light jog, Frustrated? Doesn't matter. Unprofessional, and MOS and JJ let him have it. I would be shocked if we see him again, and this probably solves the 'mystery" of why he never saw the field much this year. It wasn't some bias by MOS as previously reported.
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12 hours ago, wbbfan said:
it’s too bad, a us league could do really well with a faster play clock, 3 downs, motion/wagle and a wider field.
Don't forget a longer field, goal posts on the goal line, and a 25 yard end zone. All key elements to exciting football.
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17 hours ago, Brandon said:
I was talking about Mike Kelly.... bring back the wild cat and get rid of the highschool shotgun formation baloney!!
Don't forget the jet sweeps.
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11 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
But he's still under contract through 2027 (and the amount goes up in each of the next 2 seasons) so that may hamstring them a bit, in terms of what they can afford to pay Faj unless they can get him to redo his deal or pawn it off on another team.
....or they could cut him. I can't see a universe where any team pays him 425k next year. None of his 3 year contract is guaranteed. He'll be gone before his bonus comes due imo. The guy outright sucked this year. If they try run it back with him and let Faj go they are complete idiots and deserve the 2 win season they will have. Cody has proven that Ford was completely inadequate by having a winning record with the same squad that Ford could only win one game with.
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The only new guys I've seen play that are worth a snot are Bailey, and Jenkins. The other guys are not any better than the guys ahead of them. Jenkins is brand new, so Bailey is really the only guy we can question legitimately as to why he never got playing time. Woods and Woodby have been good but not great. Who else you got?
You say guys came in and made a difference but there are just as many that didn't. Dillon Mitchell, J. Jones, and others played their way off the team lickety split so we can't say that new guys being held back was our problem. It wasn't. Fact of the matter is that Walters whiffed badly this offseason. Very badly and if we are relying on rookies to come in and be all stars then we are in really bad shape because that just won't happen consistently for any team. Glad we got a couple guys that look like keepers but it is nonsense to suggest that the talent was there. It wasn't and isn't.
I don't mind the criticism of MOS, but it is comical how people are hating so much that a GM who really screwed the pooch is getting benefit of the doubt because of this hate. The players underperformed , the GM underperformed, and the coaching underperformed....and here we are. I think that is probably the fairest assessment I've seen on this forum this year. The players didn't underperform because of MOS, the GM didn't underperform because of MOS, and MOS/coordinators didn't underperform because of the GM/players either. They all have to own their roles in this **** show. Pinning it all on MOS is really glossing over other deficiencies that we really need fixed.