3 minutes ago, Booch said:

haha.....Gotcha!

I think it's more he couldnt be bothered and was too much work....Ironic for a guy that put in the work when he played

and a bit of he knew himself thatbhis god given natural ability was why he was so good, and couldnt teach that...so why bother

Stegall always said his ego would never allow him to be a good coach. He is very self aware in that regard.

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

I can see if a player had exceptional technical skills and technique with zero coaching experience then sure he can be valuable and pass that on and teach how to do it...he doesnt posses that tho...so how will he show guys how to execute things?...Or if a player basically shadowed for a yr like Miller ...which he basically did in his last yr on the IR and kinda got on the job tutoring before actually "on the job"....13 yrs experience in the league sure is all nice and all....but doesnt mean that right from farm to table you gonna know how to coach professional ball...

And I will say riht now if we have a dline this yr that kills it...It wont be because JT became the coach...It will be because we grabbed some legit talent...let some of the current talent loose and used a more effective scheme for majority of snaps

You are just hating for the sake of hating. None of what you are saying is anything but worst case scenaro. Tons of players have gone straight from playing into position coaches. You are suggesting he knew nothing of technique in 13 years of professional ball? Baloney. That's completely untrue. Whether or not he can teach what he know is 100% unknown. You cannot with any credibility say he will be a bad coach anymore than anyone can say he will be great at it. None of us can know that. The coaches have identified him as a potentially good coach, and this is something that has been suggested about him for many, many years by many of the players who have played with him, They have stated that JT knows the game and knows the position and was a leader out there. Why have such a hate on for JT? Did he sleep with your woman or something?

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

For 4 years we had daily & monthly updates on Mulamba & Bikudi(?) ... "They're COMING!!!!" They'd all scream on Our Bombers (please shut up, not again!!!) when Mulamba & the other dude both got kicked off yet another NFL PR. Yeah, well they both stayed in the NFL practicing for years & never played in either league. 

Might be the case with Manu as well if he stays South for an extended period. Mulumba tried to force us to trade him, we told him to retire. If Manu is a quitter like Mulumba he can do the same, if he wants to play it's with us OR we trade him on our terms.

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Where did Collaros and Jefferson come from?

Collaros came in trade, but yea that is a good point. 

Just now, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Now, if they would name Kola as the new head of catering….indisputable. 

Buffet managers can make good coin and still get to eat for free...lol. Just saying in case Kola's reading.

Just now, 17to85 said:

The best players don't always make the best coaches.  It's often the less gifted guys who make tremendous coaches... so how good withh Jake Thomas be as DL coach? I don't know but it's not some immediately crucifiable since to try. 

Exactly, I really don't understand the level of hate for Jake Thomas with some around here. Was he good the last few years? Nope. but it's not like he didn't try or bleed blue and gold. We are literally suggesting that the club should have cut ties with him permanently because he was too old to play well anymore and that is absolutely nuts. Some guys have gone off the deep end on the Jake Thomas hate train around here. I don't know if he will be a good coach, but I can't see any reason why he might not be. We'll see. We need to at least give him a chance.

Just now, Noeller said:

I actually laughed about the Jake-As-Coach thing just because I knew exactly what the reaction would be. So funny. 

I think he's well respected in the room and 13 years experience is definitely worth passing on to th next generation. I'm happy for the guy. 

Exactly. He stepped aside as a player and we still get the benefit of his experience and locker room worth. I can't believe people are viewing this so negatively.

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

I agree he played badly, but that is mostly because of his own physical limitations. From all accounts through the years he was a very smart player that had physical limits. I think he might be a very good coach.

3 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Keeping Hogan when it seems like he and Brady clashed last year is sort of weird. I know Brady previously raved about him, and maybe we were reading between the lines too much, but it certainly seemed as if the relationship had gone sour.

I think that BO's problem was the play calling of Hogan, not with the man himself. Pros can make the differentiation.

4 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

No consequences for failure/mediocrity.  What's Jake going to teach them - how to now get their uniform dirty? 

I wonder if the Hogan move might have been because of the salary cap? If he had a 2 year deal, they'd either have to eat his salary and still pay a replacement coach or they keep him but move him to a different job.

Could be because Hogan was a very good RB coach for us before.

4 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

No consequences for failure/mediocrity.  What's Jake going to teach them - how to now get their uniform dirty? 

I wonder if the Hogan move might have been because of the salary cap? If he had a 2 year deal, they'd either have to eat his salary and still pay a replacement coach or they keep him but move him to a different job.

Why not give Jake a chance? What do you know of his ability to do that? Nothing. Just assumptions. No consequences of mediocrity? Tell that to the guy Jake just replaced or the demoted Hogan. They are feeling the consequences.

18 minutes ago, Rex_Banner said:

Good plan.   Put hogan specifically as the coach for the one area he was the most horrible at last year.   And Jake Thomas coaching.   Feels like two giant steps backwards to me, but I hope I’m wrong.   

You realize that Hogan was our RB coach before when BO had his best years right?

 

8 minutes ago, CodyT said:

This seems like the way the organization would handle things of this matter. At least they are addressing it.

I think these are great moves for our organization.

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....

just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

42 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Walters has constantly overpaid our stars... Collaros, Brady, Jefferson to name a few.  That's why we can't pick up other teams top free agents. 

Some of the contracts have been baffling for sure.

3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The Bombers 10-8 record last year was pure luck. They should have missed the playoffs had the ball bounced the other way. More like 7-11 or 8-10. The Bomber braintrust can say we had a winning record & made the playoffs. But we all watched the team & they were fortunate to winas many games as they did. The team will either bounce back or fall off a cliff, I believe. A lot depends on Walters getting off his duff & actually doing the work needed this off season. So far, the early signs seem promising. 

Last year's inaction has provided him with a great opportunity to use up last year's SMS, so far it appears like he is at least doing that 4 months too late. 

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

Let's hope he learned a lesson from his arrogance of last off season. That we didn't need any impact free agents. 

Whether it's FA. or trade, he can't bring mediocrity to camp in his signings anymore. All we've seen over the past 3 years is KW mismanage the SMS so that allstars leave for more cash only to be replaced by middle of the road FA talent. That can't happen anymore, our well of all-stars is dry.  Time after time we chose cheap over performance and look what it got us last year. He has to do whatever it takes to free up the cash to be effective, if that means making hard choices on Bombers who are underperforming on their salary level so be it. The BO contract shows me that he still does not understand that concept though.

7 hours ago, wbbfan said:

wow fajardos money is not what i expected. Even with them burying almost 200k this year on the cap and 35k in none cap money they gave him the ability to earn almost 450k. 

https://3downnation.com/2025/12/21/exclusive-cody-fajardo-contract-details-for-2026-cfl-season-with-edmonton-elks/

I would’ve bet they’d go after kelly, but idk with this money. 

Sounds like they like Fajardo more than Kelly. Tells me all I need to know about how Kelly is perceived around the league.

13 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Yeah but if i guess says he's not going to sign here, we have limited options.  It's rare but has happened.  Corey Mace did that to us back in the day and never played a snap for us.

True. His loss in that case. We can trade him or tell him to retire then like we did with Mulumba

6 hours ago, Mark H. said:

OL: Randolph, Lofton, Bryant, Wallace, - they need to sign a Canadian centre or guard in free agency. As long as BO is healthy, they need to start 3 Americans on the OL

QB: time to move on from Streveler. Make sure ZC knows how to pee and see who else you can sign as a backup. Wilson can run short yardage.

RB: don't assume BO will play the entire season. Recruit an entry level American for a backup and use him on teams or pay him extra to stay on the PR. 

DL: Cam Lawson, Woodbey, Jefferson (maybe), new faces needed - I would sign a decent DT in FA

DB: I would keep the secondary intact

Rec: scout for some new faces in the receiving corps - Demski, Wilson, are a good start

LB: I would sign a decent, experienced MLB in free agency. Move Kramdi to safety or field corner and add new faces at WIL and SAM

Bin ich bindich?

(Am I crazy?)

I would like to see us sign a top Nat OL, keep our secondary, totally revamp the DL, and sign the best two receivers available, and add some depth with guys left after the initial FA frenzy

9 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

How do we know MOS and his coaching staff were the problem? Maybe there were issues with Jackson.

I would speculate that Hogan and Jackson just didn't mesh together. It happens.

6 hours ago, Booch said:

I didnt say I want Sankey one time at all...and yeah said hard pass before...that was a general statement...and agree...hes a bit better version of T.Jones...just saying if a guy is available...who makes u better...get him regardless of who is under contract already

But do agree...if this "regime" again decides to play the inferior player...excessive Canadians when not needed...and not best option...then yeah I gonna complain...cause its just more of the same again

And I havnt said sign every player available either...so appreciate u not putting words in my mouth please and thanks...and save for guys who were cut already...and our own guys...there is nobody out there worth signing yet...

Sankey is over rated and I would rather be have T.Jones. However, I want to see this year's camp to have some proven CFL talent challenging incumbents at every position groups. We don't play rookies unless they stand out, and that is only OK if you mix rookies with CFL proven talent to challenge at camp. Having 24 starters, a handful of 2nd year players, all rookies cannot be feasible if your organization likes to slow roll rookies.

Also, the CFL talent has to be correctly identified. We saw maybe some of the worst GMing in Bomber history in our FA signings last year. Just atrocious.

8 hours ago, Booch said:

regardless of potion, or your situation.....if you have a chance to make your team better....you take it....we dont seem to do that here

We seem to think that if you have a returning player or vet....a guy you perosnal like for whatever reason, then there is no need casue we think we "good"

KW is responsible for who comes to camp. 100% on him. Terrible GMing last offseason. He needs a big offseason this year.

16 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

For another year or two. He may play in the CFL but I doubt we'll see him in a Bomber uniform. 

We drafted him. We own his CFL rights in perpetuity.

On 2025-12-16 at 8:36 PM, HardCoreBlue said:

Being a bit skittish this grapevine of yours is sus to me until it’s formally announced.

He saves puppies?

Yep..as i said take it with a grain of salt. It is overheard chat in physio room. 

I don't mind Condell at all. He's a good experienced OC. He is what we needed

On 2025-12-19 at 12:59 AM, SpeedFlex27 said:

We drafted him, right? I have a feeling that he wouldn't play for us. With his entire family on theLower mainland, I think he'd want to play for BC.

We own his rights. Not his choice.

6 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

Have we adjusted the numbers based on the cap going up last year and this year ?  BO not getting that much of raise really based on cap percentage. 

The SMS didn't go up last year according to Walters. No announcement for this coming year yet either. The CFLPA ultimately decides how this new money is spent, whether it is salary or not is unknown. Last year the extra 462k went directly to improved benefits etc. None to increased salary to players

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Tyson might touch the ball 5 - 8 times per game.... Brady is touching the ball 20-30 times.... much more value in a RB then a WR.  

No there really is not. Supply and demand dictate salary not number of touches. Business 101

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Also, a couple of really good upside free agent gets. 

Would be nice but improbable given some of the contract numbers we have already. Unless we shed some salary elsewhere of course. BO was a gross overpay, ZC was already one, and if Kramdi gets what he got last year we are going to be in tough to not only sign talent but to retain what we already have. Unless, the SMS is up of course.

29 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Lol

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Would rather have seen one of Nichols or Holm re-upped first....and at best only 2 of the 3....so do we sign all 3 and screw our SMS where we dont need to?....as 3 guys in and over 140k in the defensive backfield is a huge over spend....and does this mean Kramdi is defacto starter according to Osh as per history even if he is not needed ratio wise or the best player?...as we currently have 3 guys on roster already who could do the job better and cheaper....paying premium for a guy who isnt top in his class is not good sms management....and playing him cause of what he is making even tho not best option...is poor rostering...who cares how smart he apparently is....doesn't make you good necessarily

Kramdi is a player that you and most of the forum disagree on I think. I would rather see him at S though.

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I'm very curious as to how much we stayed under the cap. It would make a lot of sense that we have been using a lot of this year's cap on these extensions. 

I'd love to know how much each team spends on starting, and candians as a whole in the sms. 

Yea...it's about time they start giving us this information. Hard to play armchair GM without it ...lol. I am just looking at the amount of 6 game stints we had with high price guys and Walters did bupkus to spend any of it during the season.