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1 hour ago, Booch said:
cause dome arte boot lickers...so to ay....and no offence btw...I like OSH as well but he has a few big flaws....and if corrected...just iagine the juggernaut we would have...and we likely be going for 5 straight cup wins
do u not understand the usage??...you could use either...or as a national if someone went down with injury, anbd use an import to replace the actual injured....or if you added say a Cole for Kramdi for a certain scheme/set...U dont have to pull an import off say at end...or Dtackle to compensate....for example replace a Walker/Fox with a slug like Schmeckle or a severly declining Thomas....or a WJ/JJ/Haba...whomever your starter is with a useless Bennett...thats how it benefits....u can slice and dice it ans lick boot bottoms all you want, but utilizing the rules(s) only benefit the team as a whole over all...If you don't actually see that then I truly question your intelligence
Grow up Booch. People who disagree with you are not boot lickers. There`s no need to be childish.
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10 hours ago, 17to85 said:
or osh over estimating them....
That`s possible, but we did go 14-4 and to the Grey Cup so maybe he isn`tÉ
5 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:The thing I dont understand out of all this is how did the Lions end up using Nationals for more snaps than the Bombers.
I wish the CFL would provide the data so we can see how all the teams utilized their Nationals.
It`s because they did, but for some reason we seem to have an exaggerated take on it. I, too, would love to see the stats and I bet all teams usage is very similar.
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9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
I have no problem with Booch voicing his concern over the wat our roster is utilized, whether once or a thousand times. Why do you??
I don`t. I was responding to a poster who does. Thanks for chiming in.
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3 hours ago, 17to85 said:
It was only decent when the writer from Hamilton was there. After that lost all credibility. Fanboi bloggers now, nothing more.
I miss Drew Edwards too. He was the real deal, one of a dying breed of CFL reporters.
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2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:
A MBB version would be better but I am not sure how the daily articles titled **** Saskatchewan would go over with a national audience.
Gotta be careful, might start something that is so popular no one could keep up.
1 hour ago, Mike said:3DN is super credible as far as reporting news. Dunk and Hodge are both very well connected throughout the league, just look at how many signings they leaked prior to official announcements. They don’t miss on that front at all and it’s unfair to say they do.
The problem with them is the exact opposite of what you’re suggesting it is. When they get into actual analysis, it’s worse than your typical tan forum commentary. Hodge, JC Abbott, that guy who was on Big Brother from Calgary … they’re all lost when it actually comes to discussing football.
if they just stick to the news they’d be fine and that’s coming from someone who really doesn’t like any of them on any level. They all suck. But they’re definitely well connected within the league - although I’ll definitely suggest it’s because SOMEBODY has to be and they do it by default for all the team executives and player agents
I agree. Dunk is as credible as it gets for inside info. However, I am not really that sold on Hodge. The only stories I believe he breaks are nothing more than Dunk feeding him some cred imo.
2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:A MBB version would be better but I am not sure how the daily articles titled **** Saskatchewan would go over with a national audience.
The T-shirts alone would need a sweat shop in Indonesia to keep up with demand.
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4 minutes ago, Booch said:
needs to be in the fore front...how much do you wnna bet we see another exampole of a dipshit manouver all yr long again tho...hope I am wrong...but Osh has had a penchant for his stubborn ideas pretty much in one form or another since he started....any one think we will take advantage of the Nationlized rule this yr...like every other team did?....no reason not to, other than his Osh ways....
I agree that it's a valid point that every poster should be aware of, however, overstating a point breeds apathy to that point. Just saying.
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16 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said:
Still?!?
Get used to it. Best is to just ignore when you see him going off on one of these rants. He's a passionate guy when it comes to trying to get his point across, even though no one's debating them. No use getting caught up in this merry go round for another full season. Change the topic is about all we can do. Booch will discuss the new topic once he sees there are no takers for that discussion again. It's a valid point he raises, it's just been done to death.
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6 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Agree 100%.
the best thing 3dn had was the anonymous weekly quote article and that’s been gone a whileI am not so sure that a lot of those "anonymous inside quotes" weren't copied and pasted from some CFL fan forums. Not saying they all were, but I think some of them were.
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On 2024-03-02 at 6:21 PM, Fatty Liver said:
I don't think Gray is coming back at a bargain price for any team, he's pursuing his engineering career in Wpg. and doesn't need to sell himself short to play football.
I agree. However, if we were to lose a Neuf/Eli/Dobson early in the season to a season ender. I could see Gray coming back at a salary in line with our SMS savings from the 6 game, or us making room in the SMS elsewhere because Gray becomes more of a priority. The fact that no one else has signed Gray is comforting because I can see him as a safety net to the reduction in our depth right now.
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3 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
Right now its less depth than we've had but I suspect we draft an OL and/or bring in a cheap vet.
If we ran into injury problems, Geoff Gray is still a FA. We could very likely go that route unless he is picked up before the season.
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18 minutes ago, Jesse said:
We'll have one of Eli/Dobson and then yeah, probably a rookie as the second depth spot for the three interior positions.
I certainly don't see this as a gamble. You can't expect to have experienced depth on you bench 2 spots deep for multiple years.
I am hoping we get a good hog in the draft or else I am in agreement with JBR. However, there are quite a few journey man OL that would be serviceable that we could pick up in a pinch too.
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2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:
I mean... I understand the argument for not jumping to conclusions...buuuut also ..this forum will have absolutely zero impact on the actual outcome of the case, so I'll say and judge who tf I want however tf I want lol.
It's not like the CFL is going to be saying "well lets start this investigation by seeing what the posters on MBB.com are saying!!"
Exactly right, this is the court of public opinion not a court of law. We owe Chad Kelly exactly zero benefit of the doubt if that is how we feel about it.
33 minutes ago, Tracker said:No one is saying that we ought to have the hanging before the investigation. There have been provably false accusations but the vast majority who come forward are ordinary people who have been savaged, and if there is one victim, it is almost automatic that there have been others who kept silent. I do not know if the statistics have changed, but some 20 years ago, about 80% of victims never spoke out, allowing the offender to move on to the next target.
"Where there is smoke there is usually fire" has been an expression that has served me well for many years. Is there a small % chance that this woman is mentally unbalanced and looking for attention? Sure. Is that likely? I would say absolutely not. I doubt the amount of instances in a thousand where the accuser has totally fabricated the story is less than a handful. No accuser, short of someone being mentally ill or a professional con woman, goes to this extreme without there being some basis in fact to their story. By all accounts she was a model and competent employee with a sterling track record.
I get everyone wanting to give the benefit of the doubt, and I want to hear the whole story from both sides too, but you would have to be out to lunch to not think there is a very bad odor to this just based on what we know so far about the story, and the people involved.
I guess at this point it is whether you believe that the ex-employee is of poor moral perpitude and is making false allegations, or Kelly/Murphy are guilty of poor moral judgement and behavior. I know which way I'm leaning and it's based on the past behaviors demonstrated by all 3. I will fully admit that I have bias against Kelly and Murphy for their past actions and that is deeply impacting my take on this. Luckily, I don't have to be non-biased in any way as I am not their judge or jury.
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10 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:
As usual, what I find tremendously useful is how sensitive issues like this latest one with CK really bring out the true colors of people, good, bad and indifferent.
I am willing to wait for an investigation into the matter on Kelly's guilt/innocence this time but his past behavior is very concerning to me as a CFL fan and I, of course, think it has a large role to play in the veracity with which the CFL should conduct it's investigation. I certainly don't blame anyone for calling out Kelly's behavior, IF TRUE, as he is a repeat offender of acts that are not befitting of a professional CFL player.
This isn't a new opinion of mine, not jumping on any kind of bandwagon here. I personally feel that the CFL should have never ratified his contract in the first place and have held this opinion before the Argos even signed him. He was initially a guy that I wanted the Bombers to sign a few years ago, then I did some digging on him and wouldn't want him within restraining order distance of my team. My opinion of him will never change, but it is not grounded in these current events.
I hope these events are not true, and are a fabrication, and Kelly really has gotten his life straightened out. He is a talented football player and our league needs those. I am, and I believe rightfully so, highly skeptical that he is innocent.
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26 minutes ago, Mike said:
It didn’t happen.
That's your opinion. Committing a felony trespass, then cozying up next to a sleeping woman and child, then uttering threats at her and her room mate on the way out....yea,,,,that doesn't scream weirdo at all. Ms. South Carolina would probably fill you in on a thing or two about him as well.
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9 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Didn’t think there was any sexual component to it. He was drunk after a team party and walked into the wrong house. Got beaten up by the husband with a vacuum cleaner hose for sitting on their couch and rambling incoherently. Plead guilty to misdemeanour trespass. But hasn’t been convicted for being a sexual predator, AFAIK.
Splitting hairs. He was also sued for assault that same night against a camera man, and was in an "altercation" with a woman afterwards. He just innocently walked over to the wrong house, went in, got cozy on the couch next to the female resident with no ill intentions. Not buying it. He traumatized this poor woman. He was charged with 1st degree criminal trespass which is a felony offence. This was later plea bargained down to a 2nd degree which made it a misdemeanor but that is likely the function of having an NFL player calibre lawyer.
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8 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
I'm not minimizing anything, nor did I didn't say it is acceptable to me.
This comment proves what I'm actually saying. You've already decided guilt based on only one side of the story. You assume that anyone who wants to know the other side of the story is a horrible human being who thinks sexual harassment is OK. Par for the course. Have an opinion based on part the information and then attack those who question your opinion.
Assuming that the contract has an end date that has passed, then the team doesn't have to renew it even if they have renewed it multiple times before. That's one difference between contract workers and employees.
Lets take Bailey as an example. Multiple contracts. Didn't do anything wrong. Bombers decided not to pick him up this year. No harm. No foul.
I have not decided guilt but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, This isn't new or out of the ordinary behavior for him. Sorry, but if this was some out of the blue accusation against a guy with no priors I might be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, but this isn't some new concept. Past offences are always used in court to establish a person's past proclivity for committing the offence.
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9 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
I missed that. When was that?
He was charged and convicted of breaking into a woman's home, sitting on the couch next to her while she slept with her 2 year old son, before being chased out by the woman's room mate when she awoke to find him there. God knows what his intentions were. This was while he was a player with the Broncos.
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46 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
It's not wrongful dismissal. They didn't dismiss her, they simply didn't pick up her next contract.
Corroboration of at least the bus part of the complaint should be easy, but we don't even have that yet, but assuming the story is true, and we only have her side of it, it's workplace harassment & likely uttering threats.
People need to stop throwing around terms like 'Sexual Predator'. It weakens the term so much as to be useless. Asking a girl out, even multiple times, and complaining that she was going out with someone else on a bus doesn't rise to the level of Sexual Predator.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon to 'protect' her after only hearing her side of the story is exactly why they went to the media in the first place. Kelly & Murphy have already been convicted in the court of public opinion. The Argos can't attack her or the story without coming off as evil. IMO that's why we won't see anything in the press from there side.
People do not need to stop throwing around the term sexual predator, he has been charged and convicted in the past for it. Maybe, it doesn't apply in this case exactly but when you add up his history with the current situation the term is maybe a bit harsh but certainly not by much.
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35 minutes ago, Mike said:
Mostly just that everyone is already proclaiming this guy is guilty because he’s got a reputation and if it were a Bomber, there would be cries of “let the process play out”
I wonder if anyone ever stopped to wonder if the reason this became public is because he has this reputation and the woman knew this would be effective.
Disclaimer: if he’s guilty of the claims, he’s a total piece of crap
I just see the double standard here for what it is and someone’s right to due process shouldn't depend on what team colours they wear
"He's got a reputation" is about the nicest way you can sum up Kelly's past transgressions. Here is a reminder of the who exactly Chad Kelly has PROVEN himself to be. It shouldn't be minimized. He has two past serious transgressions against women, one that resulted in criminal charges. You want us all to give him the benefit of the doubt? Why should we? This isn't the same as some guy with a squeaky clean record being accused, there is a crap load of very serious precedents here. Could the allegations be false? Certainly they could, but in the case of Kelly he has set the bar of perception for himself and he needs to wear it. I have no sympathy for the guy whatsoever. Toronto knew full well who he is when they signed him too.
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6 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
It's not wrongful dismissal. They didn't dismiss her, they simply didn't pick up her next contract.
Corroboration of at least the bus part of the complaint should be easy, but we don't even have that yet, but assuming the story is true, and we only have her side of it, it's workplace harassment & likely uttering threats.
People need to stop throwing around terms like 'Sexual Predator'. It weakens the term so much as to be useless. Asking a girl out, even multiple times, and complaining that she was going out with someone else on a bus doesn't rise to the level of Sexual Predator.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon to 'protect' her after only hearing her side of the story is exactly why they went to the media in the first place. Kelly & Murphy have already been convicted in the court of public opinion. The Argos can't attack her or the story without coming off as evil. IMO that's why we won't see anything in the press from there side.
Nice...minimizing sexual harrassement. You must be a fun guy at the office parties. In what world is hitting on a co-worker to the point of harrassment, then starting rumors about her to her co-workers, then threatening her with harm, acceptable to you? This is not acceptable behavior in any professional setting....EVER.
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13 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
For one possible answer, see the general (but not universal) difference in reaction to Andrew Harris’ failed drug test and the justification that it was a tainted sample/useless old school steroid no one would take/so minimal in reading it was effectively useless and the corresponding response to Leonard’s test refusal (and therefore unknown what if anything he was on) in Saskatchewan and all the PED Leonard comments.
Not the same comparison at all. Night and day difference in the offence for most people. Harris, whether roiding or not, did not hurt anyone but his own reputation and body if he was guilty. This is violence against women. Like I said, night and day.
When Harris got caught, I was mostly who cares about it. That's because I personally believe that there is a good % of athletes who are doping and at the end of the day I don't really personally care if they are or not. Violence against women is a much different type of offence.
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4 minutes ago, Brandon said:
In fairness she could be mainly doing this for attention and/or to kill Kelly's reputation.
Maybe. Should be a pretty easy investigation then. However, not many professionals burn their bridges in a close knit industry for attention or just to randomly character assassinate someone. Is it possible? Sure it is. The probability of that is very, very low though.
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On 2024-02-28 at 4:20 PM, wbbfan said:
Who is this years marine? That’s the real question. Maybe back to a Charles Nelson Esq kr who also starts at wr?
Goodspeed would likely be a day 1 starter on this years team even more so. But I can’t imagine he is ever crossing that border.Lofton is such a bad option at rt, I kind of expect it to be him. “He does soo much more out side of pass and run pro… he’s the best damned water boy in the league!”
I disagree on Lofton, with the caveat that I hope someone else is better. Last year, Lofton was actually middle of the pack in the CFL for OTs by PFF. So not stellar, but certainly not a terrible option either. If someone else beats him out in TC, we will be in pretty good shape at RT.
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1 minute ago, bluto said:
Obvious syllogism between using accusations as leverage in lawsuits is obvious.
No, it is not obvious at all. The amount she is asking for is not worth it at all. This isn't some kind of frivolous attempt to get rich.
2023/2024 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread (BRADY’S BACK! DALTON’S BACK!)
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The rules committee didn`t vote on it. Not sure where you are getting that from. This was collectively bargained in the last CBA. That is how ratio`s get changed not at committee. The rules committee can`t change roster makeup without it being bargained. You don`t have to make stuff up to make your point.