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4 hours ago, Booch said:
I know the usual suspects are gonna lose their wad on this but Kramdi is in same boat as T.Jones...good in box...crashing down at line...run blitzes...but serious holes...lost in space....has a hard time running with receivers/backs and is not a good tackler/form tackler...he's a shin diver and doesn't wrap up......Is he good?...he's adequate and wont kill you...could we be better...most definitely...why dont we use the better player...(and I can think of 3 easily off top my head) no frickin clue...just an Osh preference and the Canadian aspect of it I sure makes him all giddy
I use to rag on Holm a lot but he has really upped part of his game to accommodate for some his weak points...And has done so as he was given the opportunity as a young player/rookie...hence it is so vital to give guys opportunities, as you dont know until you test them...and this day and age practices wont facilitate the opportunity
30 yr old T.Jones......he is what he is.....Jake...he is what he is...and not even close to what he was...which wasnt much and he aint gonna get better...Kramdi too...he's hit his ceiling, but is very valuabloe as a guy who can come in in a lot of situations and gives you great depth if injury....and the CDN part makes him even more valuable as a super sub
Kolo...holes all over his game...at his ceiling and zero upside there...
I agree on Jake and Kolo. Disagree on TJ and Kramdi. Also, at no point did Osh say he thought JJ was better than TJ. He said the armchair HCs think that.
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6 minutes ago, Booch said:
didnt say they werent....last game T.Jones was far from great....and even this gane if yu watched he had several crappy plays....was he good...sure...is he an all-star?...no....can we be better...game in and game out...definately....tug on his wang all you want but he has holes in his game....why you so hesitant to try and get better is baffling to say the least...you definately a Mike Oshea sycophant thtas for sure...and thats ok....
Who says J. Jones is better? It's not tugging on OSheas nuts to ask that question. It's not just Osh...it's Younger, it's Hall as well that don't share your assessment. Are you seriously suggesting you are a better talent evaluator than these 3 men? Evan Holm and Redha Kramdi would have been cut early in their careers if it were up to you.
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Just now, Goalie said:
Most people liked T Jones last year but then they signed a former Argo.
Tony Jones has played very well this year...but J.Jones is younger and has a higher ceiling MAYBE...seems to be the crux of the argument. Just complaining for the sake of complaining imo.
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6 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Zach's play cost us a GC, and he's been so putrid in the GCs and playoffs; he has a long way to go before that.
He did give me a ton of hope again. I had hope after his preseason play as well, but last week was rough. His start to the game was also rough. He tossed some ducks early last night that had me worried. I'm glad he got it together. I hope he keeps it tight from here on. I am reasonably optimistic that this will continue.
With Jones, he pretty much did what he always does. A bit better than previous in pass rush, though it's not his strength. He is still completely lost in pass cover.
Jones balled out last night. If your biggest complaint about TJ is that our MIKE is not great in pass cover then I think you guys are really reaching.
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4 minutes ago, Booch said:
ZC arm is not what it was but he had a good game once he warmed up....has he did enough this yr tho to validate an extension sight unseen...to be determined
Jones made some plays...but was also brutal in several too....there is that to consider....now if he can consistently be top level game in....game out then sure he is decent....but he still has holes in his game and they aren't little holes
Is he our best option?...who knows...but I doubt it and the fact they don't give a guy a shot who has already proven it in the league just to see who is better...well that in my opinion is bad rostering, as you should always be trying to be better....and we don't seem to want to find out...And if J.Jones is...and it pushes T.Jones to a rotational/situational role...where he would seem even better, then why not find out if it makes the overall team better?....
Also...was against a winless team as well....be that player in all games...against all comers....no?
I just don't get how some people have an adverse opinion to trying to put best team out there...but rather just be "ok" at times....and never know..
Tony Jones and Zach Collaros were both great last night. Eat your crow like a man.
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7 minutes ago, Booch said:
True...when you look at it that way yes.....but...I think we dreaming haha
For sure....I just know that when I played and the HC came and asked you if you would consider learning LSing that it was never a good sign. lol
17 hours ago, wbbfan said:You’re never just fine shortly after a concussion. And even if you don’t feel wonky, you are at serious risk. Diagnosed concussion should be an automatic week off.
Don’t want to see his career end on a concussion. Not if it’s preventable.
In this day and age, knowing what we know about concussions in football, I would put a mandatory 10 day evaluation period if I were the commish. It would suck, but player safety has to be paramount. Especially for guys with concussion histories. At any rate, we all thought Harris was fragile, and we were all right.
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17 hours ago, Booch said:
here's a scary thought/observation...I have seen Kolo practicing it...eeeeeeee
That may not be the worst thing. Not many teams will roll out their starting C as LS. Maybe it's the plan coming down the road. Dare to dream.
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18 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Not a huge fan of our receiving corps. Got a QB who wants to go heavy vertical/intermediate stuff and two of 5 suited to that. Demski is too but really only wins consistently on a couple routes and needs to be open open to have a chance to finish plays downfield.
Same **** as last year with receivers. Replace Lawler with Wheatfall. Sterns is Wilson. Get some bigger yet versatile bodies, catch radius guys. Hope Clercius develops some game on the inside breaking routes and not just being good at getting the YAC when D forgets about him.
I don't mind our receiving corps, but Hogan needs to play them to their strengths. We've got Sterns and Demski that should be in motion constantly giving defences fits and we pull out a jet sweep but give it to Wheatfall? Sometimes I think we try put square pegs in round holes. Let Demski be Demski and mix his usage, use Sterns for YAC, let Wheatfall and Schoen take the top off, and let Clercius settle into Woli's old role of outlet/possession receiver.
12 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:There was a play where Willie dropped back pretty deep into coverage. I think it was later in the game. Thought that was pretty funny
He's done that quite a bit over the past few years. They will blitz the SAM or S off the edge and drop Willie back into the secondary. It's been effective.
9 hours ago, wbbfan said:Nah. Smith is NOT a hb. He has a fringe chance to be a S. Realistically, he is likely to end up a full time wil that doesn’t need to be subbed for a db in the dime pack playing the inside wall and hcf zones.
He doesn’t have any of the fluidity needed to be covering guys straight up, nor does he have any of the experience in how to man or match.
Mackonzo, is a real db who can play some lber. He could be a Sam, half, S or wil / dime.
Canadians who can actually cover import WRs are rare. Most Canadian dbs are safety’s who camp out between the hash marks at 15-20 yard depth and play scare crow. Or teams guys to small to back up at lber.
Makonzo, haggerty, Kelly, smith and shay likely mean we flip the wil to ni in the future, and stop having to use a di on a db. Likely meaning we declare 3 Canadians on D. But also having the flexibility to flip more spots, and have really good depth at the same time.
We could even flip wil and Mac to go with Kramdi at Sam for an all Canadian lber core.
I really think that as the season goes on we will be seeing more and more of these young Canadians allowing us a 4 man IMP front on passing downs. Just can't rush them.
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On 2025-06-21 at 11:32 AM, TrueBlue4ever said:
Does anyone know what Toews’ cap hit will be? I think bonus money counts up front, but is a playoff bonus different. A $2 million cap hit would be great, but a $7 million cap hit is an overpay.
And he may well get that on the open market. Then my big concern is if that is the bar set, how much will Kyle Connor cost us in his next contract. Hope to see an extension on him soon at $9.5 million before the free agency lunacy drives up his price to &12-13 million per.
His cap hit is $2M. All bonuses can be deferred to next year at the team's choosing. I would think the Jets will build their roster based on the base and push whatever bonuses he attains to next year when there is a big jump in the cap.
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On 2025-06-20 at 3:50 PM, Noeller said:
Or does this signing mean he's for sure gone and we're using his potential cap space... Cause JT *could* cost as much as 7- Million in cap space next year if he hits all his bonuses
No matter what JT makes in bonuses this year his cap hit is $2M. All bonuses can be deferred to next year when the cap jumps by 15 million.
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Tony Jones is currently the better MIKE than J.Jones whether some poster here want to hear it or not. J.Jones has the brighter future, but he isn't there yet. The only way some people are going to be happy with roster decisions is if everyone gets to dress on game day like preseason.
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49 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Maybe Bailey isn’t good. He didn’t exactly jump off the page to me in the preseason games and he’s in one of the easiest positions to do that even with poor camera angles.
He has a bit of an advantage to stick around being Global but maybe he’s not very useful on special teams either. Maybe he’s Big Sky’s Faith Ekakitie.
I'd love to see Bailey get some development time, but I really don't see the big deal if we go Weitz over him. Anyone saying that one has more value than the other to our roster isn't really basing that on anything other than opinion. We haven't seen either play enough to know.
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6 minutes ago, Booch said:
nor do you to the contrary....it' hardly a far take.....just watch him....You always pump Osh's yires that he does no wrong and anyone who disagrees with it is far reaching or lacks any substance
Jones is a good line backer....do you not want better?...If you put the both in a bowl and asked every G.M to pick one...I bet they all go J.JOnes...and thats just not "my" opinion
Carry on
and weitz zero....nuff said
But Bailey would get more than 6
as he has been with many others too...which means not much other than Osh has guys he likes over the guys who could be better
You can't possibly know that, and that makes it your opinion vs fact. That's how opinion vs. fact works,
7 minutes ago, Booch said:nor do you to the contrary....it' hardly a far take.....just watch him....You always pump Osh's yires that he does no wrong and anyone who disagrees with it is far reaching or lacks any substance
Jones is a good line backer....do you not want better?...If you put the both in a bowl and asked every G.M to pick one...I bet they all go J.JOnes...and thats just not "my" opinion
Carry on
and weitz zero....nuff said
But Bailey would get more than 6
as he has been with many others too...which means not much other than Osh has guys he likes over the guys who could be better
COULD BE being the operative word. Tony Jones played very well last week.
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3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Here’s what I don’t like:
OL is 70 snaps a game and literally the heartbeat of your team, protecting the most precious assets of your team and creating your ability to score points.
Special teams…I’ll never discount the importance…but 15 plays a game and really we have the bodies to have a solid unit without Ayers.
Nuts to me to change the OL from last week. They dominated that game and Vanterpool specifically. Peterson had almost no yards after contact and ran for 130. BO had another 50.
That’s the kind of decision that could easily lose you a game.
Yes. I agree on that potentially being a rostering mistake. However, I will wait to see what Wallace does in case the coaches know more about these two players than I do. From a fan perspective though, it seems odd. Coaches must really love what Wallace is bringing in practice?
1 minute ago, Booch said:Bailey tho wouldnt be a bottom of roster add tho...He would be a rotational piece on defence...as well as depth at a position we only have 2 guys rostered...both over 30 for that matter....thats the difference
Of Weitz is taking rotational depth or comes in for injury....we are in a bad place
That"s my issue with not rostering our best rosters...same with receiver...we have a National who was knicked...a back-up in a rookie Canadian with zero experience...and then........crickets....
Bailey would be a half a dozen snaps max. Won't be a difference. I do get what you are saying that we could probably change a couple or three spots on the roster and upgrade them ON PAPER, but really at this part the depth chart I am willing to let the coach reward guys etc for work ethic etc. Why? because it won't really have much, if any of an impact anyway.
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15 minutes ago, Booch said:
yeah he was NCAA trained....and like ytou said...D-line once they rralize the 1 yard off rule can be dropped right in without issue...
victim of the Osh rostering/bias...Our best all around LB and one who can lay a thump...Gets parked behind a old breading down vet who cant be relied on for 18 games...another journeyman guy who has holes in his game
Pretty much the explanation there...release him and he is in any teams starting lineup the following week
so imagine what Jones would have looked like....He heads and shoulders better than both.....but ...................................
This is a pretty far out take. You may like J.Jones better but you don't have to make up **** to justify it. T.Jones is a good linebacker.
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2 hours ago, Goalie said:
No issue with the depth chart here. Weitz Bailey? Honestly who cares. Weitz is prob the better sp teams player.
Exactly. We spend so much time around here grousing about the very bottom of the teams roster where realistically the impact on the game itself is minimal to non existent. Some guys want MOS fired for it? Makes absolutely zero sense to me. Honestly your last 4 spots on any given depth chart could be done with a coin flip and create no difference whatsoever.
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1 minute ago, ShyGuy said:
YES
Grant returns a TD, Thomas takes a RTP and the Argos get a field goal. Collaros hands it off to Brady for 13 yards and then inexplicably Prukop comes in and yeets it into double coverage... well kind of double coverage, for some reason there were two Bombers within 3 yards of each other 40 yards downfield so there were two defenders there also.Bomber receivers screwed up, and Prukop threw a bad ball on top of that.
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5 minutes ago, BBlink said:
Really like Cooley coming on to take some of the pressure off of Peterson and to give BC a different look. Thunder and Lightning
I really like Cooley coming on as well, wish it wasnt at the expense of Vanterpool because he was a run block machine last week. However, I think that Wallace can equal his performance if he plays well.
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10 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:
Peyton Logan. Whats going on with that thigh bro. He's been out for what? Like a month and a half now? Geez.
Yea....its pretty concerning. Hips can drag out a long time.
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Who cares. That`s ancient history. Different team, different QB even. You can`t look at Masoli 3 years ago....you gotta look at him now and look at the team around him. The guy looks like he was eating at the donut buffet all offseason, and is cooked. I mean BLM used to light us up for 450 a game pretty regularly when he was in Calgary, should we fear him now...
23 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:I don't remember him playing against the Bombers since his last two major injuries. Either way he hasn't played against this specific defense or had to go toe to toe with this Offense. Past performances from years ago are not a great measuring tool. Last week his arm strength outside of one or two throws looked off. He missed a wide open sure TD and threw an absolutely brutal int.
I went and looked at the stats and it's laughable what you're using lol. He hasn't started a game against the Bombers since 2022!!!! lol. wtf are we even talking about here? Yes he put up over 300 yards in both games (back to back to start the year). He went 1-1 in the win loss columns. And 1-1 in the TD-INT columns. 2 games....lots of yards 1 TD.Yea....not to mention he was twice as good back then as he is now and playing in a better offence.
4 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:0-2 no? I thought they beat Ottawa back to back to start 2022
That boneheaded call to have Prukop throw a bomb cost a Grey Cup win. I’ll die on that hill
The Prukop play call was a head scratcher for sure.
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17 hours ago, 17to85 said:
Yes, however it's 3 years in a row of the offense being poor so maaaayyybeeeee it was a bomber O problem moreso than what the other D was doing.
Buck has not shown an ability to get his offence going in GCs that is for sure.
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On 2025-06-18 at 5:22 PM, Brandon said:
Was he really though? The few plays that I did see his names he had free access to the QB and still couldn't make the play.
Yes he was. His job as an interior DT is 90% disrupt the play, 10% get the QB if you can. He was pushing the pocket back every snap.
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
Arbuckle didn't beat winnipeg in the grey cup, the argos defense did full stop. Offense didn't put **** together all game and gift wrapped a pile of points for the argos.
Exactly right. Arbuckle really didn't do all that much...didn't have to do so.
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Yea, if only the BC crowd would stay beyond the pregame concert they would really be on to something.