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We both share the same sentiments on a lot of the problems the Bombers have and a similar ideology on what will be required to fix it. I am just not as opposed to MOS being our HC. I think you share similar sentiments to me on KW's job performance. I have said all along that MOS has serious flaws that require the GM to step in. That's the difference of opinion you and I have, who has final say on what players are signed. I believe it is Walters, you believe it is Oshea. I think Osh has final say on what players are kept and how they are used, but i don't believe that Osh has final say on who is signed or resigned. Osh should have input but believe that Walters should wear the hat for who is under contract. If he has ceded that authority to MOS then that is a dereliction of duty imo.

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I agree in general. However, once your coach shows that he is apt to making the wrong decision then you need to take that choice away from him sometimes. Part of a GM's job sometimes is to know your coaches strengths and weaknesses and help offset them through the players you choose to sign. He'd be a good get, but I think if he was a realistic target of ours we would have probably parted with T.Jones by now.

Dude, you've been wrong in your opinion as many times as you have been right....and that applies to most of us here.

United does not mean that every decision is made together in total agreement and that a GM never exercises the right to over rule his HC. I can't think of any instance where a GM just automatically bows to every wish of a GM. He may try to accommodate as much as possible but I cannot name a single instance of any GM doing whatever the HC asks of him. That's nonsense. So, in that regard I can think of many instances of success where the GM and HC are separate roles and have had great success. Any team who has both a GM, and a HC and has won recently has done so because the GM has built the roster, albeit with input from many sources including the HC, then negotiated the deals that make sense and then the HC coaches what he is supplied with. I have zero doubt that almost every GM supplies the kind of team that the coach requests, and that he listens to the coach when it comes to specific players that mesh with what the coach is looking for. I, also, have zero doubt that most GMs don't sign every single player that a coach wants. Jim Barker said in an interview with Peterson on his podcast that the reason he lost his GM job in Toronto was that he listened to his HC too much. (It was a joke because he was in a dual role,) But he went on to further explain that a good GM needs to seperate the roles, as coaches don't care about SMS, or long term viability of the team. They want to win now and that is not a good approach to sustainability. He said the GM has to sometimes tell the coach no to certain players and he said that is very tough to do when you wear both hats.

That is all fine and good. However, it is not a flaw for a GM to over rule a HC when it comes down to it. MOS is a player's coach and with that comes a very real vulnerability as a coach, and that is loyalty to a fault. Walters MUST be able to make that distinction when it happens and act accordingly....and yes that is how football works in this day and age, and every other day and age, MOS may not like it, but that is where they need to find the ability to work together despite each men having differences of opinion. The GM has ALWAYS been the boss of the HC except the times one man had both titles and that was when disaster struck. This nonsense of KW must do what MOS wants for the kumbaya of the front office is just a cop out.

For sure he is. However, that is exactly the problem I am pointing out. KW should not be in complete lockstep with his HC. IF Walters is to do his job properly then he MUST make the final decision, and not necessarily be a yes man for his coach.

Walters signs players not Osh. If an over the hill vet is re-signed that is on the GM. PERIOD. All this nonsense that Osh brings back guys, and it's not true. He may lobby his GM, but any GM who does his job properly should recognize when a coach is being too loyal then veto. I'm sorry if that hurts the OSH bash train, but the coach cannot be blamed for roster movement in the offseason. But..but...but...the GM needs to respect the coaches wishes. No...no he doesn't.

Pot meet kettle.

Here we go again with KW. Makes no sense at all. You guys can be happy with his offseason but I am not. So far all he's done is overpay guys that we definitely wanted back but at what cost? He got rid of Kola. That is his best move this offseason but one a blind monkey could have made. Bringing back Kyrie just reinforces that KW has not learned much, This should have been a no brainer parting of ways for our GM.

I wish I had your faith in Eli but I don't. Hope I'm wrong.

Couldn't be worse.

I really liked Ayers in his rookie year, and at a low salary I'd bring him back for his ST work, but realistically after 2 years if he hasn't been able to supplant WIlson then I don't realistically see him as being a starter anymore. I think Vanterpool is still a must sign, as both our LT and RT futures need to be in place this year. I am OK with Tony Jones coming back but I agree that recruitment needs to find our next MIKE asap. LB is the least of our concerns right now though. Sterns I wouldn't bother with, go FA and replace him, There are half a dozen guys who are as good or better that will be available for a similar price point and we really need to flip the script on our receiving corps and get some 50/50 ballers.

Mack is a big game performer, and Keeshaun would be a great pair of signings Why would I apologize? To S27 who has been acting like a 12 year old all offseason? To Mike who only shows up here a couple times a month, not to discuss football, but to do drive bys on members who actually contribute to the football conversation? No thanks. I admitted I was wrong, but im not going to apologize because KW fed us misinformation. I trusted his explanation for not spending the extra SMS in FA last year. That was a mistake. I should have known better considering it appears he decided not to fo his job last year.

It's nice that we learn about the SMS being finalized well after the season. You guys can mock me all u want but I was going off what KW said directly about it at the time. It's unfortunate that it seems he had all season to spend an extra 400k but decided not to do so. So, sorry for thinking our GM was a little smarter than that and trusting him at his word.

Source? Because that is not at all what Kyle Walters said. That may be the most coherent sentence I have seen from you in months. https://www.facebook.com/groups/881244089318526/posts/1845080409601551/

KW told us last year that the 400k was not pegged directly to salary increases. It counts against the cap, but was earmarked by the CFLPA to player benefits, So yes, the SMS went up 400k per team but so did the cost of player benefits that are included in the SMS. This really isn't that hard of a concept to understand. Stuff like housing allowances, etc. etc. were all increased across the board with that money.

It's incredible the douchiness you show on a daily basis on subjects you are clearly uninformed on. Mike, before being an ass why don't you look things up.

The CFLPA got final say on how last years money was allocated. It went to increasing player benefits etc, which are still included in the SMS but are not available directly for teams to allocate individually to players. So yes technically the SMS went up last year but the entirety was allocated already and therefore not usable to increase salaries.

I consider him a longshot as well. I mean realistically only a few guys a years from the 30 or so new guys we bring to camp make it.

There was no 400k increase to SMS last year.

Because it's very possible his physical size kept him out of the lineup, or that he has physical attributes that don't lend well to 4 down football but might translate well to our game. However, he is someone that would probably be a project.

I certainly agree that we need to do some big game hunting in FA.

Yep. just about all these kids are insanely good athletes so you go with the ones who you trust to have the experience handling the situations. Unfortunately that kind of blacklists CDN developed players. The only reason Elgersma even got an NFL camp is because he has a huge arm and being a one trick pony is probably why the NFL will never look at him seriously again.

Yep and it worked for many years.