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26 minutes ago, Booch said:
I used to get him home many occasion when I bounced at tail end of his time here...he was a loner..came alone...and was dealing with a lot of demons
I recall many times finally getting him home at 3..4 in morning night before a game and he would rip off 150 yards that day like it was nothing
Oh what he could have been...when his marriage fell apart so did he
Behind every man's tragic tale there is usually a woman standing.
Just bugging my wife as she stands here reading me type my post. If I go missing from the forum call the cops.
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14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Natural talent means nothing if you can't be disciplined enough to get ready to play. Or to be a team leader & lead by example. I mean. Dinwiddie was a **** qb anyway. We really had no chance with him playing. But that's what you get when you sign crappy qbs behind the starter. I expected the Bombers to lose in 2009 but not 2001.
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34 minutes ago, Mike said:Blink is the problem. I’ll share a slightly vague story about Charlie - after his playing days, he was struggling a bit and ended up moving in with a friend of mine into their basement suite (the club is how he got connected with my friend, they were caring enough to help him find a place to live)
there was more than one occasion where we’d go out to a bar or restaurant or wherever and all meet for drinks at this friend’s house first. Roberts would wait downstairs and then if it was in walking distance, he’d walk to wherever we were headed and wait for us outside to beg for smokes, food, etc.
the club also paid his rent several times because they felt responsible for the tenant when the tenant spent all their money on smokes and VLTs
That's too bad about Blink. Hope he straightened stuff out.
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11 hours ago, Mike said:
You can sense the market reset coming on receivers. I’m thinking they’ll be able to keep Kenny and Schoen in 2025 for less than they’re making right now.
That would be a best case scenario, but a reset is needed. Happening already really. Schoen at 240 and White still out there would be my indications of that...and BC signing their big 2 for around Schoen money while letting Rhymes walk.
30 minutes ago, Mike said:I don’t really agree. Lawler is not going to make the same dollar amount he’s making again on his next deal.
285k + 230k
could lock them both up at 250k each and you’ve saved money and it’s still going to be the high end of what the value is looking like
i really think they’ll get them both for 235-240k each next offseason. That’s big savings. why not just give Dalton that money now? Because there’s genuinely a good chance the market tanks even lower on receivers. It’s trending that way.
Supply and demand. If a few young guys come in around the league and show lots of upside, it should take the market down a peg.
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3 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:
Nah, I'd rather they break in a new receiver* on an ELC instead of inserting a one year plug.
*Ontaria Wilson
*Ontaria Wilson
*Ontaria Wilson
Schoen signed a one year deal and might actually ask for more next season, Walters could have to decide between keeping him or Lawler.
We should be in the process of trying to find our next Lawler/Schoen so that letting one walk in the offseason won't be as painful. Weineke isn't that guy.
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1 hour ago, Mike said:
Great like I’d probably put him top 12 in the league.
Schoen, Lawler, Begelton, White, Hatcher, Hollins, Lewis, Demski, Bane, Rhymes …
Then you get into the next tier of guys like Hardy, Emilus, Acklin, Snead, Coxie, Gittens, Julien-Grant, Godwin … probably forgetting a few but I’d say Emilus/Coxie/Godwin/Snead at the top of that list.
Easy for us to not notice, but the league is pretty receiver poor right now.
I can think of 10 guys I would rather have than Emilus. That takes him out of the top tier imo. I don't see a team where he is clear cut number 1..well at least last year. This year who knows? IMO, Top tier is your top 5-8 in your position group to be considered top tier. I don't have Emilus there.
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9 minutes ago, Mike said:
Are we really pretending Emilus isn’t a great receiver? Better season numbers wise than Demski, catching passes from Rainbow Jake. If we had a 2nd year Canadian breaking 1000 yards with a backup QB throwing the majority of the passes, we’d be going nuts over him.
I know a lot of the Riders numbers were garbage time numbers, but Emilus had a lot of early game impact. Real big fan of his.
Emilus is good, not suggesting otherwise, is he a consistent 1000 yard guy..I'm not sure. Is he better than Demski? Maybe..although Demski is far more dangerous imo. However, Nic is our number 3 by a pretty large margin and Sam is their 1 or 1b.
I'm not trying to suggest the Riders receivers are crap, they are not. They just aren't near the top of the league receiving corps. They don't have that guy like Schoen/Lawler/Mack etc that can take over games.
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1 hour ago, Brandon said:
The Riders had a terrible defense and were continously playing from behind so that is a slight modifier on why they were pass heavy. Once again... they had Harris healthy for only a bit and were playing Dolegala and Fine who were not good at all. Bane made some outstanding catches and Emilius was really solid and consistent.
I'd imagine people on here wouldn't be so ignorant to say that just because they hate the Riders that they default into saying every player on that team sucks and that they were over rated and stats are misleading etc...It is perfectly fine to admit that they had talent at certain positions , we don't have to pretend that they sucked everywhere.
Not saying sucked, just stats are misleading. None of them were particularly great when the game was being contested and they were facing real coverage. That's not to say they sucked either, just that their yardage totals are a bit misleading.
56 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:There's nobody anyone is worried about 1 on 1 in there. Maybe Bane. KSB has some YAC ability but is pretty limited in terms of creating space for himself. Him and Lenius are also constantly banged up. No one in there that's much of a vertical threat.
Yea, Bane is about the only above average receiver they have.
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16 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Someone is going to get yards every year. Those guys are solid but not spectacular. Not one of them is on the level of the top teir receivers who can put the thing on their back if needed.
Their record last year speaks for itself as to what kind of impact they had.
3 hours ago, Booch said:KSB is about as overated a receiver as their is...horrible route runner..no technique...and the other 2...let's see if that was a one off..
Garbage time yardage for the most part. Their production will drop if the Riders are more competitive this year.
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47 minutes ago, Brandon said:
Two 1100 yard receivers and a 3rd with 880 with having guys like Dolegala throwing the ball at them... they were not mediocre at all. It was a position of strength for them.
Yea but there was an interesting stat about Bane, that probably applies to the other receivers as well, that almost 70% of his yardage came in what is generally regarded as garbage time in a losing effort. Sometimes stats can be misleading.
I'd like to see the overall passing yardage by Q for the Riders last year. Bad teams tend to have a higher than normal passing yardage in 4Q as teams go prevent to seal off wins.
Any time you see 3 receivers near 1000 on a 6 win team a deeper dive into that stat is required imo.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
KSB is about as overated a receiver as their is...horrible route runner..no technique...and the other 2...let's see if that was a one off..
I'm not sure why we are even talking about the Rider offence? Their defence was a disaster last year and I don't see any significant moves there at all. But..but..but Thurman some will say. Sorry...just a younger Larry Dean. Lateral move at best. They have little talent on D and unless their recruitment knocks it out of the park they are going to be near the bottom of the CFL on D.
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47 minutes ago, Booch said:
If Lofton comes out of camp at RT with all our incumbents I can think of way worse scenarios...A guy with experience...knows our guys and the league at tackle isn't disaster by any means...and maybe this motivation and the legit chance to be the guy is what sends him over the top
The guy was the best ranked OL on the Riders by PFF last year playing LT. Playing beside an actually physically capable OG he might get the job done. He's no Yoshi, but then again Yoshi is unlikely to be Yoshi again.
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5 hours ago, wbbfan said:
Gonna be like this till the draft too ugh.
Lol..well it's football talk so it's still better than listening to my wife rehash her day. Lol
2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:Riders have nice depth. And still have picks.
Fry is kind of a Gray type, less raw talent, came through better system in U Sports for developing zone blockers.
Hardrick is kind of an odd fit there honestly. If I'm them I'd spend that money on a receiver. Think they are looking at Hardrick as kind of a culture builder...but they are basically forced to use him even if he keeps trending toward bad.
Riders O should be better but their league worst defence? Not seeing much there.
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3 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Bailey should be eminently replaceable. It kind of worked out good for him with Lawler missing almost half a season. But for the most part he didn't have a great role, and didn't often take advantage of opportunities to take a step over the years to be more than the 4th option.
Kind of exciting to see some new playmakers. Notice some teams going more in that direction of guys who are kind of like Demski, even bigger and more of a tight end/H back type blocker too who can carry and catch too. Wouldn't mind a guy or two in camp like that. Like the Rutgers guy who did a lot of work as a receiver, back and returner in college.
We need to add a different dynamic just to keep the opposing DCs on their toes. So yea..looking forward to that maybe.
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1 minute ago, Jesse said:
Yeah, I'm kind of see-sawing on the move.
It's a safety net move. Therefore, yea....pretty meh. However, I don't mind him coming in and competing.
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Just now, Tracker said:
No one has yet mentioned two other competitors for the strongest arm to play in the CFL- Joe "747" Adams and Matthew Teague. I don't know if it was hyperbole, but apparently Teague threw hard enough to take skin off his receivers' hands.
Don't recall Teague at all? Who was he with?
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2 minutes ago, Booch said:
from what I hear he turned down 135kish from the Stamps, and there was something similar out east but not sure where
Maybe it was the Stamps I'm thinking of. 135k sounds more reasonable than 160. 160 would have put him I think as the 2nd highest receiver in FA last year. Can't see him turning it down for 85k here. That doesn't sound plausible, that double the money.
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5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Mack was the als grey cup mop without a doubt. Chicken salad made from chicken ****.
Yea....really all of the Als receivers played lights out. He should have been picked half a dozen times if his receivers don't fight like junkyard dogs to prevent it and make the play.
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Just now, Noeller said:
man oh man are we ******* bored around here...
You aren't riveted to the edge of your seat by the Dolegala debate? lmao
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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
That doesn't make it exceptional.
Let's even leave off bishop who is just a freak... dolegala isn't a comparion doe a guy like Burris who I would say had exceptional arm strength.
No one is saying dolegala has a limp arm like faj, but exceptional? Nah just your standard arm on a qb.
He is well above average in the CFL right now. If i called his arm strength exceptional than my bad, just a bad phrasing. Just saying he is not a noodle arm nor does he have below average arm strength as was originally suggested. The guy has a good arm. That is not his problem.
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1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:
Don't really believe that offer myself, he's a gritty receiver but probably not the clean route runner most teams would be looking for at #1 or #2 receiver spot.
Yea, I don't recall ever reading any type of offer in that range. I know the Riders made him an offer and he stayed instead but the difference was nowhere near that. I wanna say they offered him 125k iirc, but I could be wrong on that. However, I think if we are throwing 160k as a number I call that erroneous without a link.
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4 minutes ago, Booch said:
most definately...the horseshoe finally fell out
Honestly not much different than the Als last drive in the GC. Fajardo throwing up hopes and prayers. Only thing is lady luck smiled on him this time. That 50 yard completion to Mack was the flukiest thing I've witnessed. That is picked off 99 times out of a 100. Just a lame duck wobbler that was massively underthrown. Mack made an amazing play on that.
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1 hour ago, wbbfan said:
The bigger point you’re missing is lining up against cersena in your first start is very different than the dt2 as a guy with many starts over several years. Also, Dobson didn’t come from a zone blocking scheme. And if there is no tackler at the second level when you get into space if you are the double and skip guy in the scheme you aren’t going to our run the play and find a guy to block.
Ceresna is a tough assignment for any OL, guy is a beast. If he turnstiles a guy making his first career start that should be expected and not held against the guy.
3 minutes ago, Booch said:but we also didnt allow for anyone to be pushed, or to keep/win a spot...which isnt a good thing either
Fair enough, but there is just by roster needs going to be a ton of camp competitions this year. This TC simply CAN'T be like last year, we don't have that luxury. I know a lot of guys are super on edge because we have a ton of open positions, not me, I love it....our recruiters time to shine and I have 100% faith that they will.
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1 hour ago, Jesse said:
I actually do believe in our recruiting, which is why I was hoping we wouldn't see one of these retreads taking up a TC spot.
I think you wanna have a vet coming in for these open positions even if it's just a measuring stick for coaches to use when evaluating the young guys.
36 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:Last training camp scarred me.
Last training camp we didn't really have any starting positions open.
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18 minutes ago, blue85gold said:
I'm mostly thinking of this play when I say his arm is nothing special haha
https://www.cfl.ca/2023/08/20/outstanding-td-grab-from-samuel-emilus/
He was clearly putting touch on that throw. Actually a really nice throw.
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Yea..I think Zac and June didn't really mesh well.