Atomic

I like Mace, but man, he has played less than half the games since coming into the league 4 years ago. I believe I saw on Twitter that he has played 33 out of 72 or something. Now he's back on the 6-game.

lol yet you still left my post that started it all! Just so everyone can see how lame you are, I'm sure.

OK now compare the last two years and Frolik has had 84 points in the NHL while Burmi had 73 in the KHL against vastly worse competition. (Best line in the league has Dustin Boyd and Nigel Dawes playing on it, for frame of reference)

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!" If you're watching wrestling and the way the announcers perceive the talent doesnt impact how you view them, then you're not the audience they're speaking to. In other words, if you're watching in a "not taking it seriously" role, then really, none of what wrestling does as an industry to present and promote it's wrestlers and angles really makes much of a difference to you. Though I'd argue that on a subconscious level it probably does. How can you take it seriously? JBL hates the faces and loves the heels. What part am I supposed to be taking as serious commentary?

Richards is practicing and I'm still expecting Kohlert to play.

I think there are two main points that people need to realize: 1. Winnipeg is going to have to overpay in most situations. That's a fact. 2. Our prospects are still prospects. You can't just load a team up with 21-year-olds and expect them to win games.

Yes. And then next year? "Well Ladd isn't really a #1 LW and he's going to want to be paid like one so we better get rid of him." And the year after that -- "Well Perreault isn't a #2 C/LW and he's going to want to be paid like one so we better get rid of him." And so on, and so on. I mean, who exactly are you comparing Frolik to when you say he's a sub-par 2RW? Look around the league and you might be surprised by who is passing for a #2 RW on other teams. We could do a lot worse. And Burmi is a lot worse, if that's the solution. You can't look at Chicago and say "Well player X wouldn't be a second liner on Chicago so we shouldn't pay him like a second liner."

So basically what you're saying is you'd be okay with playing a worse lineup this year in the interest of building for the future. I feel like we're past that point. Missing the playoffs this season would be a huge step backwards and the city will NOT take it well.

Bagg is going to "continue" to decline? After he just posted the best season of his career?

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!"

And yet one wants $5 million and one could probably be had for $1.5-ish. Burmi is a very good possession player. I'd be comfortable with him at 3RW if the other option is over-paying Frolik to play 3RW and get paid like a 2RW. I prefer the combination that gives us the better team. If it all fits under the salary cap, who cares if Frolik is overpaid by a million/year. The Jets care. As others have said, pay Frolik $1 million too much. And then Ladd and Buff want $3million too much. And Scheif, Lowry and Trouba want their "too much". Then what...? You over-pay for the final piece that makes you a cup contender. Dont over-pay one player when you're a bubble team. You can add Burmi, Ehlers AND another player for what Frolik would cost you. And I dont think Frolik is worth Burmi and Ehlers. You guys are putting way to much emphasis on this silly idea that agents and players are comparing themselves against only players on the Jets. It doesn't make any sense. If Frolik gets $5 million somewhere else, Ladd can still say "OK I deserve $7.5 million because look what Frolik is making." It makes no difference whether he's on the Jets or not.

And yet one wants $5 million and one could probably be had for $1.5-ish. Burmi is a very good possession player. I'd be comfortable with him at 3RW if the other option is over-paying Frolik to play 3RW and get paid like a 2RW. I prefer the combination that gives us the better team. If it all fits under the salary cap, who cares if Frolik is overpaid by a million/year. If you do that for every player, you've suddenly used up a 1/3 of your cap. Term matters just as much as that dollar value But Frolik is going to want term. Who's talking about every player though? We need to establish a solid top 6 and have good depth guys in the bottom 6 capable of moving up. You can't just sign no-one and say "OK let's go with a **** lineup this year because otherwise our hands will be tied in the future." You can't mortgage the future for the present but you can't sacrifice the present for the future either.

Market value is market value. Frolik is going to get paid somewhere, whether it's here or not doesn't matter. Agents aren't comparing their clients to players just on the Jets, they are comparing their clients to other players league-wide. Should Frolik be paid more than Little? That question doesn't really make sense because Little is underpaid by today's contracts. If he was entering free agency this off-season he would easily draw $6 million+.

Oh this again! Spare us!

And yet one wants $5 million and one could probably be had for $1.5-ish. Burmi is a very good possession player. I'd be comfortable with him at 3RW if the other option is over-paying Frolik to play 3RW and get paid like a 2RW. I prefer the combination that gives us the better team. If it all fits under the salary cap, who cares if Frolik is overpaid by a million/year.

With the benefit of hindsight, the trade for Mo Price doesn't look that good anymore. They were able to score Jackson, Ellingson and Williams in free agency so they should have been able to fill one receiver spot through scouting or with Marcus Henry or Khalil Paden... would have allowed them to keep Jasper Simmons. Of course they didn't know if they'd get those guys in free agency so not really fair to judge.

No way the Moose could play at the Iceplex. Might as well have them play at the St. James Civic Center.

Does it? [Rogers - MacMillan - Gott - Deane - Kelly] seems like an OK line to me.

Perhaps. Paredes is pretty inconsistent year-to-year. Two years below 80% and two years above 90%. Hajrullahu obviously only has one season to his name but it was 87% to Paredes' 73%.

Burmi as a replacement for Frolik is a joke. Not even close to the same caliber of player.

Nah he was awesome back in the day and his commentary is fantastic now.

I don't know I just thought Bradshaw was great when I was younger. I thought the APA gimmick was hilarious and I loved the emphasis on hardcore matches during that time. Bradshaw was great in those matches and the clothesline from hell was such an awesome finisher. I stopped watching while he was still Bradshaw and when I started watching again I didn't realize JBL was the same guy for months.

Going to be very disappointed if we lose both Stafford and Frolik. We don't have the depth to absorb those losses and the free agent market is **** this year.

Yeah I blew it. I also forgot Butler and M-O Brouillette. The DB's were tough to do because it's all safeties and field corners.

Favorite feud: Doink and his midget crew Dink, Pink and Wink vs Jerry Lawler and his midget crew Sleazy, Cheesy, and Queasy