trueBlue83

You're missing the point I was making.... failure in that they haven't given the other QB's more playing time when they've had the chance.  There were lots of games last year where the game was totally in hand, where they could have thrown in Davis to get him some seasoning, but they'd keep rolling out Nichols right to the bitter end.  That doesn't help development.
By no means was last year a failure at all... I'm talking about one facet, sorry you misunderstood what I was saying...

and good for you.... i don't really care. I show up to every game and cheer my team on regardless, and even during the lean years, still showed up every game and watched them suck.  I've earned my right to believe whatever I want!

hey... he earned it.

WEEK 8 vs Hamilton.  Bombers 39 Hamilton 12.   No stats for backup QB.
Banjo Bowl  Bombers 48  Riders 28.  No stats for backup QB
WEEK 14 vs Ottawa.  Bombers 29 Ottawa 9.  Davis gets 3 reps, probably on the last drive of the game, even though the Bombers were up 22-3 going into the 4th.
WEEK 17 vs BC.  Bombers 26 BC 20.  Nichols throws for 176 yds and 0 TDs and looked awful.  No backup time.
WEEK 19 vs BC.  Nichols gets injured and our QBs combined have thrown a handful of passes, and subsequently look awful.
All I'm saying is, get the backups some time when you have the opportunity.   There are 4 scenarios listed above where they could have confidently put in a backup because the game was in hand... but didn't.    So do they have these opportunities often, maybe not... but when they do, take advantage of them.

What I don't like is when a team is up 45-7 & the starting qb is still playing padding his passing stats. That is wreckless as he could get hurt & the backups get no playing time. That is when I start questioning the sanity of a head coach. 

Of course not; he would have been more focused on stealing the loonie during the coin toss.

You're missing the point I was making.... failure in that they haven't given the other QB's more playing time when they've had the chance.  There were lots of games last year where the game was totally in hand, where they could have thrown in Davis to get him some seasoning, but they'd keep rolling out Nichols right to the bitter end.  That doesn't help development.
By no means was last year a failure at all... I'm talking about one facet, sorry you misunderstood what I was saying...

WEEK 8 vs Hamilton.  Bombers 39 Hamilton 12.   No stats for backup QB.
Banjo Bowl  Bombers 48  Riders 28.  No stats for backup QB
WEEK 14 vs Ottawa.  Bombers 29 Ottawa 9.  Davis gets 3 reps, probably on the last drive of the game, even though the Bombers were up 22-3 going into the 4th.
WEEK 17 vs BC.  Bombers 26 BC 20.  Nichols throws for 176 yds and 0 TDs and looked awful.  No backup time.
WEEK 19 vs BC.  Nichols gets injured and our QBs combined have thrown a handful of passes, and subsequently look awful.
All I'm saying is, get the backups some time when you have the opportunity.   There are 4 scenarios listed above where they could have confidently put in a backup because the game was in hand... but didn't.    So do they have these opportunities often, maybe not... but when they do, take advantage of them.

Don't you get the "legit" moniker after winning a playoff game or two ?.....

Andrew Harris has also masked Nichols weaknesses pretty well!   That's a team winning percentage.  With the weapons at the Bombers disposal this year in the receiving corps, we will know for sure if Nichols takes that next step.   If he remains weak with the deep ball, calling him elite in my mind is simply incorrect.

just seeing that Drew Tate signed with an NCAA club to coach..... didn't even realize that Ottawa released him.   I wonder if Walters reached out after Durant "retired" to see if there was interest??  As much as I never really cared for Tate personally,  I would have taken that experience on our sideline.  I'd argue that if he stayed healthy, he may even have the capability to outplay Nichols!

Andrew Harris has also masked Nichols weaknesses pretty well!   That's a team winning percentage.  With the weapons at the Bombers disposal this year in the receiving corps, we will know for sure if Nichols takes that next step.   If he remains weak with the deep ball, calling him elite in my mind is simply incorrect.

just seeing that Drew Tate signed with an NCAA club to coach..... didn't even realize that Ottawa released him.   I wonder if Walters reached out after Durant "retired" to see if there was interest??  As much as I never really cared for Tate personally,  I would have taken that experience on our sideline.  I'd argue that if he stayed healthy, he may even have the capability to outplay Nichols!

just seeing that Drew Tate signed with an NCAA club to coach..... didn't even realize that Ottawa released him.   I wonder if Walters reached out after Durant "retired" to see if there was interest??  As much as I never really cared for Tate personally,  I would have taken that experience on our sideline.  I'd argue that if he stayed healthy, he may even have the capability to outplay Nichols!

I don't remember any Bomber wins so my favourite Grey Cup memory is 2009.

As much as it would pain me to see the Riders win the whole thing, I would love to see Kevin Glenn finally get a Grey Cup ring.

.....jump balls to 5'9 receivers who are doubled covered.....rarely end up that well

Yeah, I'm baffled at anyone already writing off Givens. He was only signed in late September and only played a few games.

If Nichols could finish drives, we wouldn't have to kick 7 field goals a game..... the last 2 months of the season, most of his TDs were in garbage time.   I like the guy, but he's still gotta take another big step next season to get into the Elite category, regardless of his 2nd overall ranking this season.

If Nichols could finish drives, we wouldn't have to kick 7 field goals a game..... the last 2 months of the season, most of his TDs were in garbage time.   I like the guy, but he's still gotta take another big step next season to get into the Elite category, regardless of his 2nd overall ranking this season.

If Nichols could finish drives, we wouldn't have to kick 7 field goals a game..... the last 2 months of the season, most of his TDs were in garbage time.   I like the guy, but he's still gotta take another big step next season to get into the Elite category, regardless of his 2nd overall ranking this season.

I dont disagree with you... I'm thinking more in a 'win now' because we're right there, rather than a build for the future.  Upside to both, I just think we need an impact player in there next season.  His age aside, he's still a very good player.

If Nichols could finish drives, we wouldn't have to kick 7 field goals a game..... the last 2 months of the season, most of his TDs were in garbage time.   I like the guy, but he's still gotta take another big step next season to get into the Elite category, regardless of his 2nd overall ranking this season.

Well, Walters is clearly wrong.  Pigseye has it on good authority,

Kerry Bishop?