IC Khari Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 The guy has the physical tools and good speed to avoid the rush, he just needs some time. He already appears to be better than anything Pierce has offered this year IMO, so why not start playing him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Let buck start if he can and pull him when he fails leaving the pressure off goltz and giving the crowd something to cheer about. But goltz should be in if he continues to show promise. He can escape the pressure pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 CFL website has Goltz at 13-15 for 170 yards no tds no ints... seems like there's something there, we know Pierce doesn't have it anymore and yeah some of those Goltz stats were garbage time but he's the most athletic qb on the roster, let's give him a shot and see if he gets better. Can't be worse than going down by several scores before the game is half over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Perhaps he earned his shot... although the Argo D was playing pretty vanilla out there since the game was already won so Goltz stats may have been padded. I'm fed up with the offensive play calling by Crowton and with Pierce... can't get much worse. Goltz has the tools.. does Winnipeg have the patience to develop him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 There is not a single reason to go with Pierce unless Burke wants to get people fired. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Perhaps he earned his shot... although the Argo D was playing pretty vanilla out there since the game was already won so Goltz stats may have been padded. I'm fed up with the offensive play calling by Crowton and with Pierce... can't get much worse. Goltz has the tools.. does Winnipeg have the patience to develop him? Do they have the offence/coordinator to showcase what he can do is an even more important question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Do they have the offence/coordinator to showcase what he can do is an even more important question? Yes. Bryant turner will take over and run all the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Yes. Bryant turner will take over and run all the teams. Yes, I forgot ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 <----- this guy might be able to do something with Matthews in the jet package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 <----- this guy might be able to do something with Matthews in the jet package. LOL. I needed that laugh after a very frustrating 3 hours of football. Thanks adrenaline_x! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 He made good decisions on when to not force that throw, when to leave the pocket, Buck has experience, Goltz has intelligence. Looks like he has the arm and he's dangerous on the move. Liked the improvising, one play in particular to Etienne was something great. Gives us way more options because of his abilities. Dascow and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Buck is finished. Time to run with Goltz for the remainder of the year, but a fourth QB needs to be air lifted into town ASAP(I can't believe we haven't signed one yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I may be (am) biased but I love what I saw from Goltz. He moved the ball and was more poised than I ever remember him being. In any event, he at least proved that even on a day when PIerce was better than usual (lol) Goltz is certainly no worse an option. This was an ugly, ugly game but there is light at the end of the tunnel. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I may be (am) biased but I love what I saw from Goltz. He moved the ball and was more poised than I ever remember him being. In any event, he at least proved that even on a day when PIerce was better than usual (lol) Goltz is certainly no worse an option. This was an ugly, ugly game but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I believe you're right, once we get through this Buck stage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I definitely want to see how Goltz fares against tougher defenses, particularly with his reads. I think the key thing to remember is that Goltz has shown SOMETHING- we don't know if long term success is in his future but at this point there is only one way to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Sorry to say this is for Buck ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 CFL website has Goltz at 13-15 for 170 yards no tds no ints... seems like there's something there, we know Pierce doesn't have it anymore and yeah some of those Goltz stats were garbage time but he's the most athletic qb on the roster, let's give him a shot and see if he gets better. Can't be worse than going down by several scores before the game is half over. Not only did his stats look good, but he had some zip to the ball when he threw. He seems like he has a decent arm. After watching last night (if it wasn't beginners luck) I'm all for backing Goltz and developing him this season. As we were talking last night, I'd still like to see Hall this season just to see what he can do, but I'm liking what I saw from Goltz. He showed poise and promise. Crowton just needs to work on some of his gawd awful fake plays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingIce Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Goltz's stats were decent, but we still had a lot of two and outs in the second half, so it's not like he's our saviour (our offence only generated 3 points in the second half up until that touchdown in the last minute of play). That said, I'd still like to see him start next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Watching that game live was unrewarding until Goltz got into the game, not because he was going to bring us back and win the game, but because, finally, he was going to get some meaningful reps. And meaningful they were. What he saw out there and his reaction to live bullets flying looked promising. And yes his ability to scramble was welcome. I liked that he kept seeing things downfield and was actually able to do something about them. We're 1-3, looking at 1-4. This is the time to make the switch in QBs. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I thought Goltz didn't look too bad, but due to his inexperience he didn't let plays develop enough....mind you TO started blitzing him as soon as he got in. There were a lot of 7 and 8 yard throws which constantly left us short, and meant 2 and out. But...keep him playing and see if he has the moxy to improve each game...despite the fact that Crowton is the coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Buck is finished. Time to run with Goltz for the remainder of the year, but a fourth QB needs to be air lifted into town ASAP(I can't believe we haven't signed one yet). Bring in Michael bishop. Kelly knew who to turn to when the chips were down.. So should Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Throws a much nicer ball anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Like his potential. Would rather see him develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Might as well go with Goltz now, the season's in the toilet already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBird Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 There is not a single reason to go with Pierce unless Burke wants to get people fired. I think that is what is happening. Burke is so scared Buck will get hurt he has basically stuck Buck in a cage as in pocket. The other coaches knowing that blitz at will. I don't care for the way Buck has played but from Burke's views on exposing Buck I would guess Buck is hampered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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