With Rookie Camp getting underway Wednesday morning, it's officially time to talk about the 2026 Winnipeg Blue Bombers!

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2 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

Yes, no doubt. My point though is that it is a team game. And failure rarely rests on just one player. Elsbury telegraphed to the entire world what he understood his assignment to be - even before the ball was snapped. He didn't even acknowledge Beverette, the defender who got into the backfield unimpeded. That's not just a failure by Demski but by an O-lineman too dumb to make the defender think twice pre-snap. If he had done that, then Beverette might have hesitated slightly on the rush - giving Demski an extra half second to line up for the block. 100% hindsight.

That's not how it works. That's why Williams got burned for that deep pass early. He was trying to do too much. Trust your teammates to do their job is like football 101. Elsbury did his job, Demski didn't.

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The sad thing is, I don't see MOS+KW making the major changes that we need.

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Call me crazy but I think Willie Jefferson is a guy they should move on from. Aging, not good against the run, disappears and expensive.

Willie will go down as one of my all-time favorite bombers but I would have been ok moving on before this season. Like Stan, he is well past his best before date.

Any player other than Brady from 2019. Time to move on.

18 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Any player other than Brady from 2019. Time to move on.

As well as some more recent players. Personally I would have left guys like Corcoran on the PR to end the season but they moved him to the 1 game IR so they must want him back.

Why would you look at Corcoran, who has barely over 100 yards over two season and 24 games and say that's a guy we need to bring back?

17 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Why would you look at Corcoran, who has barely over 100 yards over two season and 24 games and say that's a guy we need to bring back?

Just look at the HC...poor in talent evaluation...values metrics and intsngibles that dont translate to viable players on field to be successful.. favors vets and guys who been here more than a yr...and one the major flaws favours Canadians way too much..plays more than required and ones that are not best option

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

As well as some more recent players. Personally I would have left guys like Corcoran on the PR to end the season but they moved him to the 1 game IR so they must want him back.

Of course Osh wants him back. He's the exact kind of player Osh wants. Someone who can't play or contibute. Is ineffective when he plays & is invisible 95% of the time. Just the kind of player Osh covets.

2 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Willie will go down as one of my all-time favorite bombers but I would have been ok moving on before this season. Like Stan, he is well past his best before date.

He is also one of my all time favorites but seeing his year end interview was pretty telling. I think he is as good as gone.

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Zach Collaros undecided on CFL future, reveals contract t...

Zach Collaros has yet to make a decision regarding the future of his playing career, though he did reveal an interesting tidbit during his year-end press conference on Sunday: he and the Winnipeg Blue

This is a great bit of news. It seems the deal reported on this season was never finalized, and walters broke off negotiations when zach got hurt. He’s a pending Fa.

That gives me hope

Without a doubt the time has come for the Bombers to move on without Collaros, thank you very much for time here but I've gotten tired on being on pins and needles every time you got hit and if your noodle arm would fall off.

From the article and this makes me barf

“I love Tommy, I love his family, I love the person that he is,” said Collaros. “I think he’s the best play-caller I’ve ever played for. He’s the best coordinator I’ve ever played for. It’s not really close.”

Warts and all Lapo and Buck were both better than Tommy.

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

From the article and this makes me barf

“I love Tommy, I love his family, I love the person that he is,” said Collaros. “I think he’s the best play-caller I’ve ever played for. He’s the best coordinator I’ve ever played for. It’s not really close.”

Warts and all Lapo and Buck were both better than Tommy.

No one ever accused collaros of being a brilliant mind.

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

No one ever accused collaros of being a brilliant mind.

You think that's the concussions talking?

6 minutes ago, captaincanuck12 said:

You think that's the concussions talking?

Pretty sure the spotters pulled him from the press conference after those comments.

I wonder what Brady though? How many yards did Condell cost Oliveira this season? Five hundred pus? I bet he has juuuuust a little different take on Condell.

14 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

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That's not how it works. That's why Williams got burned for that deep pass early. He was trying to do too much. Trust your teammates to do their job is like football 101. Elsbury did his job, Demski didn't.

Elsbury played that completely wrong. He crashed inward instead of maintaining his rush lane and gave it to Beverette.

We had 7 blockers on the line for 5 MTl rushers, Beverette made it 6. Demski isn't primarily responsible for any blitz pickup, he's the motion guy and there in case anyone leaks through. The blitz was not picked up by anyone of the 7 blockers...and yes Demski did miss the block as well. But tell me how a 6th guy goes unaccounted for in a 7 man protection package?

Edited yesterday at 08:03 AM1 day by GCn20

poor coaching and poor film work..Thats how...and yes that contributes a hell of a lot onto lack of execution by a player(s)

Also if/when guys are just not getting it done...It's up to a competent coach to pull them, if for anything a series or 2 to send a message, or at least see what the other "they all starters thats why they on the roster" guys can do...if you dont try...u dont know. That never happens on an Osh led team....EVER

6 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Elsbury played that completely wrong. He crashed inward instead of maintaining his rush lane and gave it to Beverette.

We had 7 blockers on the line for 5 MTl rushers, Beverette made it 6. Demski isn't primarily responsible for any blitz pickup, he's the motion guy and there in case anyone leaks through. The blitz was not picked up by anyone of the 7 blockers...and yes Demski did miss the block as well. But tell me how a 6th guy goes unaccounted for in a 7 man protection package?

It looked like an RPO and Zach pulled the ball instead of giving it to Brady. All of Elsbury, Bryant, Wallace and Neuf were two .. three yards downfield .. I don't think Demski even thought he'd have to block on that play. Beverette may have run it down from the backside but the way it was blocked up, Brady would have had a nice seam had he gotten the ball. It was a mistake to not give it to 20 on 1st and 10 with 3:47 left.

57 minutes ago, Booch said:

poor coaching and poor film work..Thats how...and yes that contributes a hell of a lot onto lack of execution by a player(s)

Also if/when guys are just not getting it done...It's up to a competent coach to pull them, if for anything a series or 2 to send a message, or at least see what the other "they all starters thats why they on the roster" guys can do...if you dont try...u dont know. That never happens on an Osh led team....EVER

You can't execute if you aren't prepared. You can't tackle if you aren't in position, you can't look back in coverage with out position giving you leverage, soo much goes wrong when players aren't properly prepared with a game plan.

19 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

You can't execute if you aren't prepared. You can't tackle if you aren't in position, you can't look back in coverage with out position giving you leverage, soo much goes wrong when players aren't properly prepared with a game plan.

yeah...100 percent...when guys are killing it and things are just working and stimying a team...or we scoring at will...the players success is 90 percent on the coaching and the prep....Same as in what we witnessed.

Also tho...if you have players who are just crazy good in their prime...and a lot of them for that matter (like we had) then yup you can mask and overcome coaching liabilities

But when you don't, and to add fuel to it you are playing several guys who have no business taking regular reps...well you just can't mask that anymore and you get what you saw in 2024 to last saturday...Plain and simple...Full stop

46 minutes ago, Booch said:

yeah...100 percent...when guys are killing it and things are just working and stimying a team...or we scoring at will...the players success is 90 percent on the coaching and the prep....Same as in what we witnessed.

Also tho...if you have players who are just crazy good in their prime...and a lot of them for that matter (like we had) then yup you can mask and overcome coaching liabilities

But when you don't, and to add fuel to it you are playing several guys who have no business taking regular reps...well you just can't mask that anymore and you get what you saw in 2024 to last saturday...Plain and simple...Full stop

So in summary if the GM gets good players the team wins. Thanks for pointing that out. We can sit here and grouse about the coaching but at the end of the day the talent on the field is what matters most. I completely agree with you about that.

If you need to have an absolutely loaded team with tons of depth to win are you really a good coach?

Here's something I've been thinking about as the season wound down... If I say Singer is our best receiver is that wrong? Sonic that's the case why didn't take injury to get him into the lineup? Similarly a guy like Smith I think is our best lb so why did it take injury to get him starting? What else might be on the bench that's better than what we were using?

Is that really a way to run a team? Are we putting people in the best situations to maximize their potential?

27 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

So in summary if the GM gets good players the team wins. Thanks for pointing that out. We can sit here and grouse about the coaching but at the end of the day the talent on the field is what matters most. I completely agree with you about that.

no...if the coach can actually evaluate the best of whats brought in yeah they win...Thanks for your pointless input and Osh love...we get it...your related

10 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

If you need to have an absolutely loaded team with tons of depth to win are you really a good coach?

Here's something I've been thinking about as the season wound down... If I say Singer is our best receiver is that wrong? Sonic that's the case why didn't take injury to get him into the lineup? Similarly a guy like Smith I think is our best lb so why did it take injury to get him starting? What else might be on the bench that's better than what we were using?

Is that really a way to run a team? Are we putting people in the best situations to maximize their potential?

Took 2.5 yrs to realize Griffin was our best sam as well....and he didnt just come on and get it this yr...Ayers as well would be better than either of Wilson or Jones....Eli was clearly better than Elsbury....took 15 games to realize that...and if he isnt he wouldnt have stayed as starter after his initial game and into the playoffs...and likely there are others,,,Kelly...Moxey...list goes on

Who knows who was cut or relegated to PR that would be better....and just caue one moron says "well they were not picked up elsewhere" as their defence of Osh is just a useless take...Other team were not sitting in our camp and watching our guys compete...they were doing stuff for their own tams well being

15 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

If you need to have an absolutely loaded team with tons of depth to win are you really a good coach?

Here's something I've been thinking about as the season wound down... If I say Singer is our best receiver is that wrong? Sonic that's the case why didn't take injury to get him into the lineup? Similarly a guy like Smith I think is our best lb so why did it take injury to get him starting? What else might be on the bench that's better than what we were using?

Is that really a way to run a team? Are we putting people in the best situations to maximize their potential?

There is absolutely no reason at all whatsoever that Singer should not have started the season as a starter, but rotted for 2/3rds of it behind Corcorran..and then Cobb....when we didnt even need to play 3 canadians to make ratio...That was purely a Osh decision based on what who knows...other than his lack of talent evaluating and his insistance we play excessive Canadians.....even tho they not the best..same with Kelly as the main rotational guy on defence...I sure Vaval..Texada...Ayers...anyone else for that matter that would have been more capable