Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

[Bubba Zanetti]

31 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Especially after last years free agency.......Mitchell.....bust......Logan.....did he return one punt,,,Then think about the money these guys soaked up AND we let Lawler walk???.....

There is your Lawler money and we havent even mentioned our big defensive free agent splash Jonathan Jones! Man Walters really had an offseason bedshitting for the ages. Likely could have kept Dobson and Lawler if Mitchell, Logan, and Jones were all not signed. None of those guys made one lick of a difference. Gotta figure Lawler and Dobson would have.

Edited 7 hours ago by Bubba Zanetti

[Tracker]

38 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

O'Shea's signing would cause a real surge in season ticket sales for the Argos. Maybe a hundred 

Doubling ticket sales is always good.

[sportmentary2012]

3 hours ago, GCn20 said:

There is absolutely no reason in the world we couldn't sign both Lawler and Schoen. We had just done it the year before.

I refer you to this article...

https://3downnation.com/2025/02/13/blue-bombers-gm-kyle-walters-winnipeg-priced-out-on-free-agent-losses-lawler-dobson-ford/

2 hours ago, blue85gold said:

They were priced out of the league's highest paid non-QB player.

Everyone thought that was an overpay at the time. This just happened to be the 1 year that Lawler didn't get hurt or suspended.

I think they could have used him this year only because the Cup is here.They should have broke the bank for a game changer like him. Any other year I would agree with letting him go.

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

There is your Lawler money and we havent even mentioned our big defensive free agent splash Jonathan Jones! Man Walters really had an offseason bedshitting for the ages. Likely could have kept Dobson and Lawler if Mitchell, Logan, and Jones were all not signed. None of those guys made one lick of a difference. Gotta figure Lawler and Dobson would have.

When I saw Dobson playing Center for the Ti Cats on Saturday, I just shook my head & couldn't believe it. We had this guy & let him walk. 

[Tracker]

                                                     

1 hour ago, sportmentary2012 said:

I refer you to this article...

https://3downnation.com/2025/02/13/blue-bombers-gm-kyle-walters-winnipeg-priced-out-on-free-agent-losses-lawler-dobson-ford/

I think they could have used him this year only because the Cup is here.They should have broke the bank for a game changer like him. Any other year I would agree with letting him go.

The reality is that the Bomber team of 2025 was so pathetic that he would have made no difference at all.

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

 

 

[sweep the leg]

 

[sportmentary2012]

11 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

 

Good bye O'shea. Your smugness will fit in where only 5 people care about football🤣

[Noeller]

Who the Christ is Howard Berger?

And I'm betting the only difference between Bombers offer and anyone else is autonomy... Which may also be no difference, but IF there's a difference it'll be that. Maybe Wade said "changes..." And everyone else says "do what you want".... That would be the only thing.

Edited 3 hours ago by Noeller

[pw13]

Berger is a former radio reporter who covered the Argos as sideline reporter about 30 years ago, and spent most of his career on the Leafs beat. He now works -- I'm not kidding -- at a funeral service, and often makes seemingly-in the-know predictions on social media. His track record for accuracy is not stellar. He's kind of Marty York Lite -- no longer working in the media but still wanting to seem connected.

    

[Noeller]

9 minutes ago, pw13 said:

Berger is a former radio reporter who covered the Argos as sideline reporter about 30 years ago, and spent most of his career on the Leafs beat. He now works -- I'm not kidding -- at a funeral service, and often makes seemingly-in the-know predictions on social media. His track record for accuracy is not stellar. He's kind of Marty York Lite -- no longer working in the media but still wanting to seem connected.

    

Okay I'm feeling less stressed now.. ha ha. Thanks buddy!

[johnzo]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

The reality is that the Bomber team of 2025 was so pathetic that he would have made no difference at all.

pathetic.  lol.  how quickly you've forgotten how bad it can really get.

[Noeller]

4 minutes ago, johnzo said:

pathetic.  lol.  how quickly you've forgotten how bad it can really get.

This is my concern... People are so ******* spoiled after the last decade, they have no idea how bad it can get. If we make ONE wrong move After Osh (trademarking "AO" as a demarcation "thing") we are so ****** and back to Mack/Burke 2013....

[Bigblue204]

2 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is my concern... People are so ******* spoiled after the last decade, they have no idea how bad it can get. If we make ONE wrong move After Osh (trademarking "AO" as a demarcation "thing") we are so ****** and back to Mack/Burke 2013....

I dont know about the mack era.... the saving grace is that its still very much Miller time (MT). So if we are going to end up in a AO era, it will still be MT. Mediocre maybe...but not Mack bad.

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is my concern... People are so ******* spoiled after the last decade, they have no idea how bad it can get. If we make ONE wrong move After Osh (trademarking "AO" as a demarcation "thing") we are so ****** and back to Mack/Burke 2013....

Most of the posters here have been posting for 20 years. It’s safe to say virtually every person here knows exactly how bad things can be. 

Thing is, for several sweaty fans, being a team that continually chokes in the gc, is not significantly worse than a team that is young and just not good enough yet. 

This schism exists in all areas of sports, but it’s seldom talked about. Some people love to win, others hate to lose. That’s the major divide we’ve seen among bomber fans since we started gifting gc wins to teams starting mediocre back up qbs. 

We are basically at the very bottom of the roller coasters dive. we have the entire process left to get back to a respectable quality team. And we can’t even be sure that we will start that process this off season. 

If we bite the bullet and don’t wait to respond to other teams actions this off season, I think we can be a scrappy young team next year. If we stay a pile of the usual senior citizen suspects, hard to see us being more than crappy. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

16 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is my concern... People are so ******* spoiled after the last decade, they have no idea how bad it can get. If we make ONE wrong move After Osh (trademarking "AO" as a demarcation "thing") we are so ****** and back to Mack/Burke 2013....

Miller made two hall of fame hires and that's really all he's had to do on the football operations side so far.  He could bat .500 and we could still end up in a mess.

It's hard to build a staff.  It was hard for O'Shea who is a hall of fame player and now a hall of fame coach.  Obviously WFC is much less of a **** show than it was, but different people will have different draw in terms of their ability to build out both personnel and coaching side.

How does Miller know if he made the right hire/hire(s) or not?  He was patient with Walters and O'Shea.  Will he be patient enough with the next round with an organization that is used to winning?  Will he be too patient in a bad situation relying on his past experience with two hall of famers?

There's the appeal of novelty that something new will be better.  The odds of that are extremely slim.  Same as with the QB's.  Yeah, **** it, throw some random QB out there and see what happens.

[rebusrankin]

So if MOS goes, who would be a good replacement? 

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

 

 

I’m surprised hamilton wants mos. Are they gonna kick milanovich for mos and make him gm too? that’d be wild 

[Noeller]

9 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So if MOS goes, who would be a good replacement? 

There are approximately 50 posts about this so far....

Most logical answer so far is JY, if for no other reason than to keep him from jumping to TO as Osh's DC.

Just now, wbbfan said:

I’m surprised hamilton wants mos. Are they gonna kick milanovich for mos and make him gm too? that’d be wild 

Every single team in the league, with the exception of Ottawa, would toss their guy for Osh if he said he'd come there....

[wbbfan]

10 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So if MOS goes, who would be a good replacement? 

 

Just now, Noeller said:

There are approximately 50 posts about this so far....

Most logical answer so far is JY, if for no other reason than to keep him from jumping to TO as Osh's DC.

If mos is gone, it’s hard to predict if we go with a rehash or go to an up and comer. The options aren’t amazing, especially for established hcs. Any thing could happen. 

[Piggy 1]

6 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

 

If mos is gone, it’s hard to predict if we go with a rehash or go to an up and comer. The options aren’t amazing, especially for established hcs. Any thing could happen. 

Bye Bye ,all I'll say. And id take JY for HC ,I said it during the year. Khari can be OC. 

[Pete]

If OShea goes I wouldn't be surprised to hear Walters stay. . As for head coach maybe Khari or Calvillo?

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

If OShea goes I wouldn't be surprised to hear Walters stay. . As for head coach maybe Khari or Calvillo?

I agree that if mos goes walters stays. 

[SpeedFlex27]

19 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I’m surprised hamilton wants mos. Are they gonna kick milanovich for mos and make him gm too? that’d be wild 

I'll take Milanovich. 

5 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I agree that if mos goes walters stays. 

Or Miller may decide to wipe the slate clean & hire an all new front office. Miller better get right down to business.. The off season is two weeks shorter. Stalling for a month or more will just set us back. 

Edited 1 hour ago by SpeedFlex27

[M.O.A.B.]

4 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I'll take Milanovich. 

I'd like GM/HC Milanovich.