Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

[sportmentary2012]

I figure the arrogant Osh will end up in Toronto and it may be a good thing for the Bombers. Their cup run is done and time for new blood to lead the squad. I am forever grateful for what he did for this club but it is not the worst time for a change.

 

[SectionKBlackout]

Yeah this hot take needed its own thread…

[sportmentary2012]

Ok thanks for that.  It is pretty big news but maybe not to you

[17to85]

Pretty big news already being discussed in other threads 

[Noeller]

/thread.

Edited November 11 by Noeller

[Doublezero]

Of course O'Shea is gone. Kyle Walters should not let the door hit him on the way out either. 

Conceivable that Brock Sunderland, although he only had a .471 pct as Elks GM, or Eric Deslauriers could replace Walters.

They are already here and know the club. Anyone have thoughts about Marc Mueller as head coach?

 

[Colin Unger]

I would like Oshea to return and would even be ok with him receiving gm duties with Brock doing all actually GM stuff save for making the final decisions on players.  This would free up operations cap space to hire LaPolice as OC.  Talk of moving on from O’Shea is crazy to me.  Yes his roster management is annoying but we won’t a lot of games over the past several seasons with his linebacker heavy lineups.   Be carefull what some of you wish for. 

[blue85gold]

13 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

I would like Oshea to return and would even be ok with him receiving gm duties with Brock doing all actually GM stuff save for making the final decisions on players.  This would free up operations cap space to hire LaPolice as OC.  Talk of moving on from O’Shea is crazy to me.  Yes his roster management is annoying but we won’t a lot of games over the past several seasons with his linebacker heavy lineups.   Be carefull what some of you wish for. 

Yes I agree that Oshea's roster management is his worst quality so let's promote him to the job of managing the roster in the offseason too. 

[sportmentary2012]

14 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

I would like Oshea to return and would even be ok with him receiving gm duties with Brock doing all actually GM stuff save for making the final decisions on players.  This would free up operations cap space to hire LaPolice as OC.  Talk of moving on from O’Shea is crazy to me.  Yes his roster management is annoying but we won’t a lot of games over the past several seasons with his linebacker heavy lineups.   Be carefull what some of you wish for. 

I do not wish for him to leave but if there is a time it might be now as they are in need of a retool and he has already overseen one but not sure he can do it again.

[Booch]

17 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

I would like Oshea to return and would even be ok with him receiving gm duties with Brock doing all actually GM stuff save for making the final decisions on players.  This would free up operations cap space to hire LaPolice as OC.  Talk of moving on from O’Shea is crazy to me.  Yes his roster management is annoying but we won’t a lot of games over the past several seasons with his linebacker heavy lineups.   Be carefull what some of you wish for. 

Osh as a g.m woukd drag us back to the depths of reinbold...Mack...hell to the no

[Atomic]

I think he is already gone and they're just waiting til after the Grey Cup to announce it.

[bustamente]

Giving the Argos permission to talk to O'Shea maybe signal that the Bombers are okay with him moving on. 

[bigg jay]

12 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Giving the Argos permission to talk to O'Shea maybe signal that the Bombers are okay with him moving on. 

Not like they had a real choice. 

His contract is ending so they could delay it temporarily or allow it.  It would probably ruffle some feathers if they deny the permission.

[Noeller]

Bombers have routinely said they'll never stand in anyone's way so this permission means nothing other than the bombers continue to do the right thing as an organization....

[voodoochylde]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

Osh as a g.m woukd drag us back to the depths of reinbold...Mack...hell to the no

That would give me Bill Belichick vibes .. great coaches but abysmal personnel guys.

[bustamente]

What I was trying to say in my clumsy way was that if the Bombers wanted O'Shea to stay they would of re signed him already but by letting the Argos talk to him at this early stage they wouldn't mind if the Argos offered him a GM/HC role with money that the Bombers would not be inclined to give him.

[bigg jay]

I don't know that they offer him the GM role.  Dinwiddie left because they (MSLE) are pretty happy having Pinball in that role and he has no desire to give it up right now.  That could change if they feel it's necessary to lure MOS away but I also don't know if that's something MOS wants?  I've never gotten the impression he has any interest in a GM role but who knows.

[johnzo]

22 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Pretty big news already being discussed in other threads 

might be time for someone bold to put a fork in this weird season and fire up the 2025-2026 Blue Bomber Offseason Thread.

 

[sportmentary2012]

1 hour ago, johnzo said:

might be time for someone bold to put a fork in this weird season and fire up the 2025-2026 Blue Bomber Offseason Thread.

 

I think this is directly related to next season.  Do you think if he leaves that the Bombers will be worse off next year?

[sportmentary2012]

2 hours ago, bustamente said:

What I was trying to say in my clumsy way was that if the Bombers wanted O'Shea to stay they would of re signed him already but by letting the Argos talk to him at this early stage they wouldn't mind if the Argos offered him a GM/HC role with money that the Bombers would not be inclined to give him.

The Bombers are a strange organization. They seemingly let Hardrick and Lawler go when they wanted to stay.  They underutilized Brady O and I think he will bolt. They seem to have an arrogance at the most inopportune times.  I guess it is easier to let him make the decision to go than the other way round

[Brandon]

3 hours ago, voodoochylde said:

That would give me Bill Belichick vibes .. great coaches but abysmal personnel guys.

I hear Bill and his girlfriend might be available soon ,   maybe she can fill in as OC  while Bill is HC and GM

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, sportmentary2012 said:

The Bombers are a strange organization. They seemingly let Hardrick and Lawler go when they wanted to stay.  They underutilized Brady O and I think he will bolt. They seem to have an arrogance at the most inopportune times.  I guess it is easier to let him make the decision to go than the other way round

To be fair, yoshi has back slid into carrying far too much weight, couldn’t stay healthy and wasn’t fairing well when healthy here.

 He put in tremendous work to get back down in weight, get healthy and stayed pretty healthy. 

With lawler we did have to get away from 300k for a wr, but we didn’t do a near good enough job of replacing him. once the cap went up, we should’ve gone up to retain him though.

[kelownabomberfan]

Eleven years is a lifetime in the CFL.  Other than Cal Murphy I don't know anyone, even Bud Grant, who hung around that long with the Bombers and who had so much success.  But it's clear that it's time to move on for Mike.  We all knew this day was coming.  Now, will we pull a major boner and replace O'Shea with a Reinebold kind of fool like we did with old Cal in 1997, and wallow in sadness and mediocrity for two years, or will we find someone who can carry on the tradition of winning?  I do like the FIFO mentally that O'Shea brought to the locker room.  That's something I hope we can keep going.  FIFO is very important.  We lose that and we're back to the dark days of 2013 again very quickly.

Edited November 12 by kelownabomberfan

[Mark H.]

9 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

To be fair, yoshi has back slid into carrying far too much weight, couldn’t stay healthy and wasn’t fairing well when healthy here.

More weirdness though. I get why they let Yoshi go, but I don't get why others were kept.

[Noeller]

Well if others were getting offered a 100k raise from other teams then maybe they'd have been allowed to walk as well. Yoshi would have been a Bomber forever of he wasn't getting a league high contract to be a non blindside tackle. 

All things are not equal.